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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:39 am

Wow!!! Tough blow for Airbus!
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:52 am

US Airways first quarter conference call is scheduled for tomorrow afternoon.... coincidence if true?  Smile
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:52 am

Quoting Ack426 (Reply 99):
On the US employee site, The Hub, they have addressed this article, saying that there are no sources, and that they are still weeks away from announcing an order for 60 total aircraft. So this is just a rumor it seems.

Thanks for this update.

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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:00 am

Quoting 787EWR (Reply 92):
Quoting 787EWR (Reply 88):
US Airways has virtually eliminated their Boeing fleet(minus the 737-400's that they use on their CLTLGA - Florida routes). Most of their pilots(along with the America West pilots) are Airbus trained, . I would imagine that this would be a financial mistake for them

My apologies on this statement. I just realized, thanks to Wikipedia, that US Airways still has over 150 Boeing models(I neglected their acquisition of America West as well as their 767-200's.

My Bad...

Even without factoring in any HP Boeings, US still flies many of their pre-HP merger Boeings: the fore-mentioned 762s (all of which are in the new c/s), the 752s (some began life w/EA), and many 734s & 733s.
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:07 am

Quoting Ack426 (Reply 99):
The Hub, they have addressed this article, saying that there are no sources

Generally corporate wouldn't confirm an order beforehand even it was true...since they know as well as you and I do that the info could be announced earlier on the internet. That response on the US intranet is par for the course.

US annoucing a 787 order sooner than any of us would think is pretty likely, imo.
 
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:20 am

Airbus as a company and as a A350 project still has lots of unanswered questions, this might be complicatings things for potential customers making strategic decisions. As an outside observer, I would have significant concerns about an A350 schedule, while the 787 machine to this point is humming along. Those carriers who can't afford to wait will probably be going heavily Boeing until Airbus firms up Power8 at least. Maybe the A350 specs are pretty firm and this is just not known, but those could be a problem too. I could totally understand US position in that right now, any potential A350 benefit carries a perceived risk making Boeing a safer choice.
 
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:06 am

They are not confirming this yet. They said they are still a few weeks away from announcing there decision. This was sent to employees


RUMOR MILL: Did US Airways order Boeing 787s?

You may have seen media reports (with unnamed sources, by the way) suggesting that US Airways has placed an order for Boeing 787s. Actually, we are still several weeks away from announcing our replacement aircraft order. We put out a request for proposals earlier this year for 60 aircraft. These aircraft will be used to replace retiring aircraft in the years ahead. Stay tuned - this is a big deal and we'll tell you and world as soon as it's appropriate.
 
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:17 am

Quoting DeltaDC9 (Reply 77):
Dont forget the big boys Delta, Northwest, United, Continental, and American....all Airbus customers now or at some point in the past.

Well...Delta wasn't really an Airbus "customer" as we typically think about it. Yes, they ended up stuck with some A310s after taking over PanAm. Yes, they didn't HAVE to take them at the time, but that is what PanAm was flying certain European routes with. The things ended up being major hangar queens, and they were ultimately dumped. So, yeah, it's true that DL had some A310s on the property for a while, but I don't know that that's what we normally think of as an Airbus "customer", in the sense that, to my knowledge, DL didn't order new Airbii as a new fleet type. (DL's bitter rival, Eastern, of course, was an early Airbus adopter.)

In the same vein, didn't CO just take the A300s from Eastern? Or am I wrong and they actually voluntarily purchased Airbii directly from the manufacturer?
 
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:41 am

Can't wait to hear what happens!
 
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:29 pm

Well the Seattle P.I. believes QR ordered the 30 787 UFOs, but they would be 787-8's and would be in addition to the ~80-frame A350XWB order.

So perhaps US will split their order, with 787-8's to replace the 767s now and A332s later, and then add A350XWBs to replace the A333s and A345s down the road.
 
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:31 pm

Quoting Phxplanes (Reply 106):
They said they are still a few weeks away from announcing there decision

Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought they said that they would announce at least a narrow-body order by the end of April (April 30).

At any rate, I can't wait to see what US has decided!  Smile
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:37 pm

Quoting Flyusairways (Reply 110):
Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought they said that they would announce at least a narrow-body order by the end of April (April 30).

While I hope they come up with at least some form of announcement by then, I doubt they will.
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:56 pm

USAirways CEO Doug Parker will be on CNBC's Sqwak Box at 0840 EDT on Thursday morning to discuss earnings. Perhaps he will be questioned on the order issue ?

Regards

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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:41 pm

Quoting AirMailer (Reply 90):
You left out Spirit
NorthWest
and that new startup - SkyBus.

What about Fedex and UPS? They have a few.
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:18 pm

Come on USAir, dump the A340 idea and go 777!!!
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:20 pm

Quoting SkyexRamper (Reply 114):
Come on USAir, dump the A340 idea and go 777!!!

....as much as I would obviously love to see the T7 in US colours, if it makes more economic sense for them to go with the A340's, then they should go with those instead.......
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:08 pm

Quoting Stitch (Reply 109):
Well the Seattle P.I. believes QR ordered the 30 787 UFOs, but they would be 787-8's and would be in addition to the ~80-frame A350XWB order.

So perhaps US will split their order, with 787-8's to replace the 767s now and A332s later, and then add A350XWBs to replace the A333s and A345s down the road.

In a word -INSURANCE-, putting in an order like SQ did for the 787 and the 350 (still LOI) means that the airline can be sure it will have planes. If close to delivery it is decided that the 787 or 350 isn't what is really wanted, will he resale or swap market be good? If the current market holds it would be great. If not, both can be flown and the decision on which options to exercise will be made to the preferred one.

Wasn't the indications of US that they were looking at the 788 size most with the 789 and 358 being less optimum. If the planes are available a few years earlier that could also tilt the scales.
 
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:15 pm

Quoting UALMMFlyer (Reply 4):
Also, if true, I can see the remaining US legacy carriers ordering 787

Oh and WHY please if you buy the 787 would you not also consider the A350XWB. The XWB is considerably larger, and after all - many airlines operate both A330/340 and 777!

Quoting Keesje (Reply 3):
If US wants to replace 767 the 787-8 is right sized

Maybe indeed. And US currently ops both 767 and A330.

Quoting Boeing767-300 (Reply 23):
Airbus should reasonably expect US to purchase A350. Indeed.

Howerever it would seem that US are willing to use Boeing to 'screw' Airbus on price.

Indeed this may be true. However, why wouldn't US buy both. They may see the 788 as the ideal 762 replacement (move up a little) while the XWB-900 and 1000 would give them an edge over the competition in the long haul category and replace A333
 
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:17 pm

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 93):
Quoting AirMailer (Reply 90):
Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 61):
Really?

Jet Blue
Frontier
Virgin America
Ted (United)

Oh and US Air?

You left out Spirit
NorthWest
and that new startup - SkyBus

What about Virgin America?

I think I mentioned them. The point I was trying to make was the silliness and inaccuracy of this statement:

Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 61):
Quoting EbbUK (Reply 56):
Well let US airways get the Dreamliner. It fits that all US customers stick with their home grown products

It's like saying European airlines prefer Airbus products. Tell that to BA, RyanAir, Lufthansa, Air France/KLM, etc.
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:37 pm

Quoting LGA777 (Reply 112):
USAirways CEO Doug Parker will be on CNBC's Sqwak Box at 0840 EDT on Thursday morning to discuss earnings. Perhaps he will be questioned on the order issue ?

Doug Parker was questioned on the issue.

He stated that there had not been any decision made, and that negotiations were ongoing with both Airbus and Boeing for narrow and widebodied orders.
 
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:03 pm

Quoting SkyexRamper (Reply 114):
Come on USAir, dump the A340 idea and go 777!!!

Totally agree! And why not go for the 737NG as well!
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:33 am

Quoting SkyexRamper (Reply 114):
Come on USAir, dump the A340 idea and go 777!!!

With DL, AA and UA gracing the sky with 777s already be happy that at least one US carrier will fly the A340.
Same with the A350. There will be many 787s flying around in the US over the next couple of years so I still hope for US ordering the A350.
If the wishes of most of you come true this website can soon be called 787spotting.net or boeingwatching.net but since this is airliners.net I hope for a huge variety of Airbus and Boeing aircraft flying with US and European carriers.
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:50 am

Quoting Phxplanes (Reply 106):
They are not confirming this yet. They said they are still a few weeks away from announcing there decision. This was sent to employees


RUMOR MILL: Did US Airways order Boeing 787s?

You may have seen media reports (with unnamed sources, by the way) suggesting that US Airways has placed an order for Boeing 787s. Actually, we are still several weeks away from announcing our replacement aircraft order. We put out a request for proposals earlier this year for 60 aircraft. These aircraft will be used to replace retiring aircraft in the years ahead. Stay tuned - this is a big deal and we'll tell you and world as soon as it's appropriate.

Well, this sounds pretty authoritative to me....
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:56 am

Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 122):

Well, this sounds pretty authoritative to me....

So it's either:

1. Stick with XWB and order 40 more
2. Stick with XWB and order 10 more and 30 787s
3. Stick with XWB and order 40 787s
4. Cancel XWB and order 60 787s

IF the UFO is for US then only 2 is correct - I think that they definitely have yet to decide - wait for Paris!
 
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:58 am

Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 123):
So it's either:

1. Stick with XWB and order 40 more
2. Stick with XWB and order 10 more and 30 787s
3. Stick with XWB and order 40 787s
4. Cancel XWB and order 60 787s

IIRC the order for 60 aircraft includes narrowbodies.
 
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:17 am

Quoting Flying-Tiger (Thread starter):
US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

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Flying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 3537 posts, RR: 17
Posted Wed Apr 25 2007 03:35:41 your local time (1 day 10 hours 18 minutes ago) and read 19749 times:

Quote:
Airbus will receive another blow this week when US Airways ditches a $3.7 billion (?.85 billion) order in favour of the aircraft manufacturer’s American rival, Boeing.

The Times understands that US Airways will announce an order for between 20 and 30 Boeing 787 Dreamliners within the next 48 hours. The deal will be worth between $3.2 and $4.9 billion at list prices.

Pls. see URL
USAir

where following phrase is contained:


In a television interview, Parker declined to comment on the status of the airline's order for Airbus' new
wide-body A350 plane, in the face of industry talk that it may switch to Boeing Co.'s (BA.N: Quote, Profile,
Research) 787 Dreamliner. He said the airline is talking to both Boeing and Airbus about replacements.


This does not confirm the article of the Seattle Times, but shows that they have not invented it, as a
seriousagency as Reuters refers to "industry talk".

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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:57 am

Quoting Manni (Reply 124):
IIRC the order for 60 aircraft includes narrowbodies.

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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:41 am

Quoting EbbUK (Reply 56):
Well let US airways get the Dreamliner. It fits that all US customers stick with their home grown products.

Its apparent that you have NO idea what you are talking about...
 
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:06 am

Well untill its announced by US Airways or Boeing or Airbus its all rumour so at the moment ..
Just rememeber at the moment US Airways may have signed for a different plane but airbus will deliver them a rolls royce instead of a ford .. Ok it may be bigger than what they wanted originally but it will still be an amazing deal that in the end may be too good to pass up ..
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Tue May 08, 2007 6:53 pm

According to WSJ US Airways is

"leaning towards sticking with its initial decision to opt for A350 planes"

http://www.euro2day.gr/articlesfna/34287280/




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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Tue May 08, 2007 7:23 pm

Quoting Keesje (Reply 129):
"leaning towards sticking with its initial decision to opt for A350 planes"

 duck 

Now that would throw the cat among the pigeons. And theres no compensation card for this one.
 
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Tue May 08, 2007 8:29 pm

Quoting EI321 (Reply 130):
And theres no compensation card for this one.

I'll bet that's not true. Airbus will owe US a significant chunk of cash if they fail to deliver the original A350s that US ordered. Of course Airbus isn't building those aircraft, so they can either offer XWBs at a great price or pay the delivery cancellation penalties in the contract.

Do you think there is no consequence for failing to meet contractual obligations in this case?
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Tue May 08, 2007 10:04 pm

I am glad to hear that as much as I love the 787 it is good to see the A350 staying at least with one US customer.
It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
 
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Tue May 08, 2007 10:13 pm

Quoting 11Bravo (Reply 131):
Airbus will owe US a significant chunk of cash if they fail to deliver the original A350s that US ordered.

This is normal, although we dont really know this for sure in this case.

Quote:

However, in view of delays to the A350 -- now due to come into service in 2013 versus 2008 for Boeing''s rival 777 [obviously means 787] plane -- US Airways is seeking a clause to impose penalties on Airbus for any further delays to delivery, according to the WSJE.
The busines daily quoted Airbus chief operating officer John Leahy as saying "US Airways would of course have penalty payments" if the plane is late or does not perform as expected.

Seems to be refering to future delays, with no mention of penalties relating to the existing order. I think US might be hinging on whether or not GE signs on the A350.
 
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Tue May 08, 2007 11:12 pm

So US is supposed to rely on their 9 (?) A332s coming in a few years and 3-4 340s (who knows what is up with that) for the next 7 years to expand internationally? When CO, DL, AA all have an abundance of 763's, 764's, 752's, 772's to expand internationally.

i dont think i'll ever understand why US makes the decisions it does
 
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Tue May 08, 2007 11:32 pm

 point 

Quoting Usairways85 (Reply 134):
i dont think i'll ever understand why US makes the decisions it does

Amen to that.  praise 
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Tue May 08, 2007 11:37 pm

Quoting Usairways85 (Reply 134):
So US is supposed to rely on their 9 (?) A332s coming in a few years and 3-4 340s (who knows what is up with that) for the next 7 years to expand internationally? When CO, DL, AA all have an abundance of 763's, 764's, 752's, 772's to expand internationally.

Perhaps this is prudent for US at the current time? How many Star Alliance partners operate to PHL, CLT and PHX?
 
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Wed May 09, 2007 12:37 am

Quoting Usairways85 (Reply 134):
So US is supposed to rely on their 9 (?) A332s coming in a few years and 3-4 340s (who knows what is up with that) for the next 7 years to expand internationally?

Maybe they can pick up some of the many 763s that will be coming available as 787s are delivered...  stirthepot 
 
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Wed May 09, 2007 12:44 am

I thought there was some sort of agreement a few years ago if Airbus helped US financially, part of the deal was to take the A350.

Why would they completely switch A32X to the 737NG anyway? It would make no sense financially since the oldest A32Xs are only approaching 10 years old and there are a few hundred to replace. If they wanted to switch to Boeing it might make more sense to wait until Boeing comes out with the 737 replacement
 
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Wed May 09, 2007 12:46 am

there are a few hundred to replace

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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Wed May 09, 2007 1:09 am

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 138):
Why would they completely switch A32X to the 737NG anyway? It would make no sense financially since the oldest A32Xs are only approaching 10 years old and there are a few hundred to replace. If they wanted to switch to Boeing it might make more sense to wait until Boeing comes out with the 737 replacement

They wouldn't be replacing 32Xs with 737NGs, it would be to replace 737 classics and 752s. While it would make more sense to fit more 32Xs into the fleet, if they get a good deal to go with 737NGs in combo with 787s, it could make it worth the extra costs of a new subfleet type (and 60 frames should mitigate some of these extra costs, to boot).

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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Wed May 09, 2007 1:14 am

I'd be willing to bet some serious coin that US sticks with the A350 and with Airbus line in general. It seems that Airbus is making concessions on aircraft prices that Boeing choses not to match. But more importantly, I don't see US sacrificing their relationship with the company that tossed them a lifeline in bankrupcty. You don't simply abandon business relationships like without there being something seriously wrong with your partner. And, while Airbus has problems, I don't see those problems being terminal.
 
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Wed May 09, 2007 1:38 am

Quoting Keesje (Reply 129):
According to WSJ US Airways is

"leaning towards sticking with its initial decision to opt for A350 planes"

Airline officials remain concerned about whether Airbus will deliver the A350 by 2013 as promised.
Airbus Meets Pressure To Deliver On A350 (by BoomBoom May 8 2007 in Civil Aviation)

[Edited 2007-05-08 18:41:53]
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Wed May 09, 2007 3:42 am

Quoting Keesje (Reply 129):
What was this about a fat lady & singing?

Doug Parker confirmed that Airbus is willing to honor the original price for the previous revision of the 350XWB. That plus the debt forgiveness and the fact that Boeing was on the creditor's committee that scuttled the DL/US merger, makes this deal Airbus's.

Boeing would be idiotic to match. Airbus needs this one, Boeing can't keep up with the demand they already have. Airbus is fire selling to get this plane of the ground. Boeing doesn't have to. Why do people think Boeing has a shot here again?
 
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Wed May 09, 2007 3:51 am

Quoting Bigapplecoder (Reply 141):
I don't see US sacrificing their relationship with the company that tossed them a lifeline in bankrupcty. You don't simply abandon business relationships like without there being something seriously wrong with your partner.

That was the US Airways management that had the loan from Airbus in Chapter 11. The new US Airways (HP) management (Parker and Company) had nothing to do with it.

Quoting AirFrnt (Reply 143):
Doug Parker confirmed that Airbus is willing to honor the original price for the previous revision of the 350XWB. That plus the debt forgiveness

US Airways paid back the exit financing to Airbus, the debt was not forgiven. I have also never seen a quote from Parker giving any indication of Airbus' pricing for the XWB, do you have a source? The only comment I saw from Parker was:

Quoting Aminobwana (Reply 125):
In a television interview, Parker declined to comment on the status of the airline's order for Airbus' new
wide-body A350 plane, in the face of industry talk that it may switch to Boeing Co.'s (BA.N: Quote, Profile,
Research) 787 Dreamliner. He said the airline is talking to both Boeing and Airbus about replacements.
 
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Wed May 09, 2007 4:03 am

Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 144):
I have also never seen a quote from Parker giving any indication of Airbus' pricing for the XWB, do you have a source?

There is another thread on US Fleet Replacement where he is reported as saying this at a meeting (I believe an employees meeting.)
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Wed May 09, 2007 4:51 am

Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 144):
US Airways paid back the exit financing to Airbus, the debt was not forgiven. I have also never seen a quote from Parker giving any indication of Airbus' pricing for the XWB, do you have a source? The only comment I saw from Parker was:

From (http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/engineering/article1680645.ece) which, I believe was the original article cited here):


"Emirates is not the only airline benefiting from Airbus’s desire to win orders. US Airways is expected to buy between 20 and 30 A350s this year after Airbus “forgave” a loan of $90 million. According to a US Securities and Exchange Commission filing last May, the American carrier was let off the loan and interest. Airbus said yesterday that the loan was being incorporated into another deal, but would not reveal further details."

From US's SEC filing (http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/04-26-2007/0004574408&EDATE=):

" The 2007 first quarter includes $39 million of merger related
transition expenses. The 2006 first quarter includes a $90 million
gain associated with the return of equipment deposits upon forgiveness
of a loan, offset by $46 million of merger related transition expenses."

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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Mon May 21, 2007 1:40 am

Quoting 11Bravo (Reply 131):

Do you think there is no consequence for failing to meet contractual obligations in this case?



Quoting Bigapplecoder (Reply 141):
It seems that Airbus is making concessions on aircraft prices that Boeing choses not to match.

Airbus desperately needs some good news to rally shareholders and employees, and is thought to be the favorite to get an order for the A350 WXB. But it may also have to make deep concessions to hold the order, after a scrapping of the plane's original design has put it years behind the competition from Boeing.

http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?C...b475a3-cd52-43e3-98c2-7b4fa9ba2f59
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RE: US Airways Reported To Switch To The B787

Mon May 21, 2007 1:50 am

Quoting BoomBoom (Reply 147):
Quoting 11Bravo (Reply 131):

Do you think there is no consequence for failing to meet contractual obligations in this case?



Quoting Bigapplecoder (Reply 141):
It seems that Airbus is making concessions on aircraft prices that Boeing choses not to match.

Airbus desperately needs some good news to rally shareholders and employees, and is thought to be the favorite to get an order for the A350 WXB. But it may also have to make deep concessions to hold the order, after a scrapping of the plane's original design has put it years behind the competition from Boeing.

http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?C...a2f59

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