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Huge Market Gap Unanswered

Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:13 pm

What puzzles me is that while Boeing and Airbus introduce the 787 and A350, the days of the A300 are over, the 767 will meet its fate relatively soon as well, even if it has had a small late blossom recently. This opens a huge, increasingly yawning gap between the 737/A320 families on one hand and the 787/A350 on the other. Why is no one answering this? Its a huge gap not only in matter of size, but also a matter of range. Where is the short-to-midrange smaller widebody of the future?
 
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RE: Huge Market Gap Unanswered

Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:21 pm

The 787-3? The larger end of Y1?


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RE: Huge Market Gap Unanswered

Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:28 pm

Quoting NA (Thread starter):
Its a huge gap not only in matter of size, but also a matter of range. Where is the short-to-midrange smaller widebody of the future?

Maybe the airlines simply aren't asking for something in that category? It's not as if A300s and B767s have been selling like hotcakes these last couple of years.

Perhaps both Boeing and Airbus are simply reacting to the trend they both see... or they're both planning larger versions of their next A320/B737 generations that could fill that gap (despite being narrowbodies).
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RE: Huge Market Gap Unanswered

Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:54 pm

The differenc ebetween the smaller 787 and the max capacity of a a321 is 10, with the 321 holding 220 versus low end 210 for the 787. It seems to me that there really isn't a huge market gap.
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RE: Huge Market Gap Unanswered

Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:25 am

Quoting SkyvanMan (Reply 3):
The differenc ebetween the smaller 787 and the max capacity of a a321 is 10, with the 321 holding 220 versus low end 210 for the 787. It seems to me that there really isn't a huge market gap.

Meanwhile, back in the real world...

If you're going to compare high density, you need to make apples to apples comparisons. The A321 at 220 and the 787 is at 297.

There remains a gap in actual configs:

A321 - 169

787-8 - 226-240 (2 vs 3 Class)

Gap filler? 757-200 and -300's that carriers were able to pick up before the program was shut down that will do fine until Boeing and Airbus start replacing the 737/A320, which at least from Boeings view could seat 90 to 220 - replacing the 737-600/700/800/900 and 757-200/300.
 
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RE: Huge Market Gap Unanswered

Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:57 am

Hi,

surely there's only a gap in the market if there is a demand from the market for a configuration that is not being offered? You can rest assured that if the airlines were calling for the kind of aircraft you are thinking about, Boeing & Airbus would be falling over each other to be the first to bring such a product to the market. Oddly, they aren't...  scratchchin 

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