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Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Thu May 10, 2007 3:54 am

Does Southwest still do the 20 minute turns at some facilities?

If the plane is late, how do they handle the delay?
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Thu May 10, 2007 4:28 am

Someone from WN on here once said they no longer do the 20 minute turns, but not sure if it's true or not.
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Thu May 10, 2007 4:33 am

They are not far from a 20 minute turn. We flew DEN-MCI-TPA and I think it was more like 15 minutes on the ground at MCI. Amazing efficiency. Very good service.
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Thu May 10, 2007 4:36 am

Delays from what I've seen usualy speed up the process. People usualy leave faster, board faster, and everyone needing to do something is already there waiting to get it done.

I've had a plane arrive late, and my flight still left on time.
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Thu May 10, 2007 4:39 am

I don't know...I think in 2007, given your typical American pax's portly waistline and quantity of carry-ons, it is pretty tough to get the passengers to do their part for a quick turn  Wink
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Thu May 10, 2007 4:40 am

We still do them....

Last Friday night I worked:

DAL-HOU 3:00pm-4:00pm
HOU-HRL 4:20pm-5:20pm
HRL-HOU 5:40pm-6:40pm
HOU-DAL 7:00pm-7:55pm
DAL-LBB 8:20pm-9:25pm

We stayed on time and our actual turn times were: 16mins, 20mins, 19mins, and 23mins.
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Thu May 10, 2007 4:42 am

WN still has 20 minute turns in a few places, but they are mostly scheduled for 25 or 30 minutes. When I flew ABQ-PHX, the plane came from DAL and was scheduled for just 20 min at the gate. However, realistically it takes 25-30 minutes for Southwest to turn a fully loaded plane, and that's without any hiccups.
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Thu May 10, 2007 4:45 am

The late H.Y. of DAL Ops once turned the solo 727-200 (N406BN) in :10, with 155 folks off and another 155 on. We'll never see -that- again..  Wink
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Thu May 10, 2007 4:48 am

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 7):
We'll never see -that- again..

We sure won't. Sometimes it takes more then 10 minutes for someone to get a jetway up to the door these days.
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Thu May 10, 2007 4:48 am

Quoting Junction (Reply 1):
Someone from WN on here once said they no longer do the 20 minute turns, but not sure if it's true or not.

LAS-ONT, Pretty close to twenty.Very fast.
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Thu May 10, 2007 4:59 am

Quoting N702ML (Reply 5):
We still do them....

Last Friday night I worked:

DAL-HOU 3:00pm-4:00pm
HOU-HRL 4:20pm-5:20pm
HRL-HOU 5:40pm-6:40pm
HOU-DAL 7:00pm-7:55pm
DAL-LBB 8:20pm-9:25pm

We stayed on time and our actual turn times were: 16mins, 20mins, 19mins, and 23mins.

How full were you on each of those flights?  Wink
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Thu May 10, 2007 5:03 am

I just love the way WN has their customers trained.

What other airline (or any type of business for that matter) has their customers lined up in order waiting for the plane to arrive?

You just have to love it when your customers are that anxious.
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Thu May 10, 2007 5:06 am

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 10):
How full were you on each of those flights?

I don't think Southwest would want me posting our loads on here....

Lets just say it was a Friday afternoon at prime travel time....
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Thu May 10, 2007 5:24 am

Average scheduled turn time is still 25 minutes. It has been 25 minutes for the 3 years I have worked for WN.
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Thu May 10, 2007 5:46 am

I suspect with more people checking in luggage, loading and unloading takes longer. The number of pre boards can slow down the process as well as very full flights.
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Thu May 10, 2007 6:16 am

Quoting Junction (Reply 8):
Sometimes it takes more then 10 minutes for someone to get a jetway up to the door these days.

tell that to CO...they took about :20 getting the jetway to our 753 back in November....we couldnt even park on our own power..
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Thu May 10, 2007 8:00 am

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 10):
How full were you on each of those flights?

I was just going to ask that..  Smile Now you are thinking like an analyst.
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Thu May 10, 2007 9:13 am

I work a through flight tomorrow OMA-STL-DAL-AUS. DAL is a 20 minute turn. 20 minute turns tend to be more successfulin Texas where are brand is well -known and there are through flights. 25-30 minute turns are more prevalent in terminating markets, i.e. PBI, FLL, ISP and strong leisure, (lots of specials markets). One terminating city that we still do 20 minute turns is ALB due to the dual-boarding bridge.
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Thu May 10, 2007 9:19 am

I've been on a 20 minute turnaround before on WN...pretty impressive. And ironically, I still find their planes cleaner, more often, than UA, AA, etc.
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Thu May 10, 2007 11:50 am

Turning 737 is not that hard, not much cargo if any, and in most cases the bag count isn't very high. A fully loaded 737 can be turned in 30 easy. Turning 757 is much more difficult.
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Thu May 10, 2007 12:01 pm

First ... WN load factor are some of the lowest in the industry ... somewhere in the low 70's %

Second ... everyone waiting for a Southwest flight is ready to run to their chosen seat ... just let 'em go!

Third ... When you HAVE to do a fast turn, then most airlines can do it. I've flown a few flights past few weeks where the inbound was late, and we easily turned in 20-30 mins.

Jimbo

[Edited 2007-05-10 05:03:27]
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Thu May 10, 2007 12:13 pm

Quoting N702ML (Reply 5):
DAL-HOU 3:00pm-4:00pm
HOU-HRL 4:20pm-5:20pm
HRL-HOU 5:40pm-6:40pm
HOU-DAL 7:00pm-7:55pm
DAL-LBB 8:20pm-9:25pm

Doin' the Texas two-step baby. Probably not too much more of these eh? At least a smaller percentage than the good 'ole days.

BUT, was this on a 735? That's potentially 15 less people than "normal" per turn...  stirthepot 


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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Thu May 10, 2007 1:48 pm

I flew DAL-HOU-JAX and back last month. On the way out, the crew at Hobby turned our packed 737-700 around in less than 30 minutes; coming back on a 737-300, we spent exactly 20 minutes at the gate in Houston... helped by the fact the flight up to Dallas was pretty light.

This still strikes me as very impressive. Last time I flew Northwest, it took over 40 minutes to load everyone on an A319 out of Detroit. AA flights I've been on out of DFW seldom take less than 30 minutes to load everyone.
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Thu May 10, 2007 2:15 pm

I still have faith in their quick turnaround times.

I flew from oakland to SNA and as i watched the plane pull into the gate. It was as if the pilot was treating the 737 as a formula 1 racing car. He parked really fast. One engine was already shutting down before docking and stopping. People got off, people boarded and we left. It was about 20-25 mins. When we landed at SNA, it was the same thing. It was a hard stop st the gate and people were already out of their seats once we slowed down considerably still on the runway with the reversers just shutting down.
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Thu May 10, 2007 2:38 pm

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 20):
Second ... everyone waiting for a Southwest flight is ready to run to their chosen seat ... just let 'em go!

You have just hit on the reason why SWA will not easily (if ever) go to assigned seats! If you have a seat assignment you can just be lazy about getting to your seat, without that then its first-come-first-serve and to the quick goes the victory. Why would they ever want to switch to that mode? Southwests entire premise is high fleet utilization rates (no, not load factors though it is important. Duh.) and the short turn keeps the planes in the air for more of the day.

Tug
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Thu May 10, 2007 5:17 pm

Last Feb. I flew home LAS-ONT and of all the times, I've flown WN I saw something that even had me saying "wow". We landed and pulled up to the gate and deplaned. For those of you familiar with ONT you know that there's no congestion once you are off the plane and into the terminal. So I went straight downstairs to catch the "F" Lot parking shuttle. It took a little longer than normal to arrive but probably no more than 5 minutes. By the time the shuttle got the lot, got to my stop, and I got to my car I saw the same plane I had just arrived on, rotating on depature to its next destination. Pretty easy to recognize Arizona One!  biggrin  Total time from the time the plane pulled up to the gate til the time I saw it taking off again was 20 minutes, so I would imagine the turnaround was somewhere in the 15 minute range. Heck that was almost as long as the flight itself!

ONTFlyer
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Thu May 10, 2007 5:24 pm

Back in the '70s, when I first started flying Southwest, 10 minute turns were routine. That was due to the route structure, no doubt; mostly experienced business travelers, little carryon luggage, no hillbilly families and everybody had get-there-itis.

No check in, no ticket either. Just grab a seat and fork over your $19 fare somewhere enroute. Cash, check or credit card.

Now THAT was an airline.
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Thu May 10, 2007 9:03 pm

Quoting Platinumfoota (Reply 19):
Turning 737 is not that hard, not much cargo if any, and in most cases the bag count isn't very high. A fully loaded 737 can be turned in 30 easy. Turning 757 is much more difficult.

I wouldn't call it easy when you have 140 bags plus 3700lbs of crabs off and 180 bags, 2000lbs freight on in 20 minutes. WN's ramp staff just make it look easy.
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Thu May 10, 2007 9:07 pm

Quoting Tugger (Reply 24):
You have just hit on the reason why SWA will not easily (if ever) go to assigned seats! If you have a seat assignment you can just be lazy about getting to your seat, without that then its first-come-first-serve and to the quick goes the victory. Why would they ever want to switch to that mode? Southwests entire premise is high fleet utilization rates (no, not load factors though it is important. Duh.) and the short turn keeps the planes in the air for more of the day.

 checkmark 

PS - Your name makes me sad...growing up in Namibia, my dogs name was Tugger...amazing black lab, had her from when I was 4 to 18. But then again, it's funny to see the name Tugger again after all these years!  Smile
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Thu May 10, 2007 10:31 pm

As of last summer when I was working at BWI, I'd have 4-5 "quick turns" a shift. In other words, we had to put the fuel on the plane and be out of the box in less than 20 mins. This was an especially hard time to beat on the LAS, LAX and PHX flights... Everyone did their job, tho and 20 - 25 min turns were pretty normal to see there.

-Jeff
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Thu May 10, 2007 10:49 pm

These 20 minute turns -

Just curious- are these fully loaded 737's? ie - all seats full?

Thanks

PITSpeedbird
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Thu May 10, 2007 11:06 pm

I walked by a Southwest gate the other day at PBI and they had a packed flight getting ready to depart for ISP. I counted no less than 15 wheelchairs lined up at the jetway door. I can tell you for a fact there is no way they achieved a 25 minute turn on that flight! Maybe a 30 minute turn if they were lucky...
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Fri May 11, 2007 12:42 am

Quoting Quickmover (Reply 11):
I just love the way WN has their customers trained.

What other airline (or any type of business for that matter) has their customers lined up in order waiting for the plane to arrive?

You just have to love it when your customers are that anxious.

I can't tell if you are being obnoxious or not. Perhaps it is contagious that when the staff cares about efficiency, so do the passengers.

Quoting Luvfa (Reply 17):
I work a through flight tomorrow OMA

Let me know when you RON here, we can grab a bite at the Eppley Burger King with the windows out onto the field!

Quoting SW733 (Reply 18):
And ironically, I still find their planes cleaner, more often, than UA, AA, etc.

That's because WN FAs give a damn.

Quoting Chris133 (Reply 27):
WN's ramp staff just make it look easy.

And anyone else who happens to be standing around. No one at WN is exempt from throwing bags.
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Fri May 11, 2007 12:44 am

We usually do 20min turns for Allegiant's MD83's in FWA. We are scheduled a 30min turn but we either get a late aircraft or we kick them out early. On an AVERAGE flight we have anywhere from 4 to 8 wheelchairs and at least one aisle chair, and no Air Serve slackers to push them for us (not that they actually work at other airports)!! We work with one counter, one gate, and usually 3.5 on ramp (one person drops city bags after plane is unloaded while the other 3 pack it). Its not that hard to do 20min turns!
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Fri May 11, 2007 1:15 am

Up here at PHL we still do the 20 min. turn on some flights. ex.

PHL-PIT
PHL-PVD

Alot of the short hauls and late arrivals.
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Fri May 11, 2007 1:31 am

Here in ROC we cant even do a 20-25 min turn with EMB-145's (it may be some of our personnel, but I didn't say that)  Smile

Nice job WN!  Wink
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Fri May 11, 2007 1:37 am

Quoting Tugger (Reply 24):
You have just hit on the reason why SWA will not easily (if ever) go to assigned seats! If you have a seat assignment you can just be lazy about getting to your seat, without that then its first-come-first-serve and to the quick goes the victory. Why would they ever want to switch to that mode? Southwests entire premise is high fleet utilization rates (no, not load factors though it is important. Duh.) and the short turn keeps the planes in the air for more of the day.

I'm one who really isn't convinced the "cattle-herd" method for seating is a factor in all of this. I've observed DL turn 738s here in SLC on several occasions in that time frame. I think the factor that many overlook with WN that allows them to turn a flight as quickly as they do is they employee their own baggage personnel at each station rather than outsource it to a third party or other carrier. The baggage handling speed WN has is second to none as a result.
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Fri May 11, 2007 2:35 am

Turning a 737 in 20mins isn't extremely difficult to do with good weather and an experienced crew. The number of last bags is also a key factor.
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Fri May 11, 2007 2:40 am

I can't speak for other carriers on this but also the FA's are usually out in the aisle actively assisting pax with stowing luggage which helps to speed up the process as well. I know some carriers do not allow their FA's to assist pax with luggage (or so I suppose b/c I don't see them do it)....but at WN one FA is obligated (as of last year) to stay at the Overwing Exits not only to make sure Exit Seat compliance is acheived but also to help with bags.
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Fri May 11, 2007 2:41 am

A quick look at the 6/4/07 SAN turn schedule (and some even quicker arithmetic) shows ~60% of the turns are :25, ~40% are :30 and there are just a couple :20 (~3%.) I would certainly expect that smaller, less congested airports see a much larger percentage of :20 turns and I would think there would be more or fewer depending on the season as well.

One other factor that could affect the number of :20 turns WN still does system-wide could be related to how many of a stations' flights are "thru" as opposed to "real turns". In other words, in SAN, about 60% of our departures are thru flights (same flight number arrives as departs) meaning there are at least some pax (and baggage) that don't ever get off the plane; it seems that, in theory anyway, WN might be able to turn those flights slightly faster than a true "turn" when one flight terminates, EVERYONE deplanes, then the new flight number clicks in and everyone boards an empty plane. (I don't know if some connecting baggage is left on the plane or not...) In SAN, 3 of the 4 :20 minute turns are "thru" flights.

In any case, it's still amazing that WN can successfully do the turns they do, despite weather, increasing airport congestion, and all the other factors involved. It's a true testament to hard-working and well-trained employees (and knowledgeable passengers!)

bb
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Fri May 11, 2007 2:45 am

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 36):
I'm one who really isn't convinced the "cattle-herd" method for seating is a factor in all of this. I've observed DL turn 738s here in SLC on several occasions in that time frame. I think the factor that many overlook with WN that allows them to turn a flight as quickly as they do is they employee their own baggage personnel at each station rather than outsource it to a third party or other carrier. The baggage handling speed WN has is second to none as a result.

Well said and I certainly I won't disagree that there are several factors involved in SWA's success with the 20 minute turn. Some here have implied it is easy to turn a 737's cargo and luggage but I agree with you that it actually just a very well executed process by Southwest that makes it look easy and work so well.

There are several aspects to being able to quickly process a plane once it arrives at the gate: The passenger movement (both off and on), the cleaning and prepping of the cabin and cabin services, the baggage and cargo handling, Crew changes and processes, and last but not least fueling and various aircraft servicing (MX checks).

All these together make up the "pit stop" that occurs when an aircraft arrives. And Southwest has focused on each to try to minimize the time each takes and coordinate it with the other so there are minimal conflicts. But I will stick with my original statement that their boarding method gives SWA what they want: Passengers that are motivated to get onto the aircraft and into their seats quickly.

Tug
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Fri May 11, 2007 2:50 am

Quoting WNCrew (Reply 38):
.but at WN one FA is obligated (as of last year) to stay at the Overwing Exits not only to make sure Exit Seat compliance is acheived but also to help with bags.

How often do you guys have to ask for volunteers for the emergency exit row these days? You'd think with the internet, it's now pretty common knowledge that you get lots more legroom on these rows...but I guess you have to make sure that the exit row occupants are able-bodied and not minors  Smile
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Fri May 11, 2007 2:52 am

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 20):
First ... WN load factor are some of the lowest in the industry ... somewhere in the low 70's %

You gotta remember...that "low 70's" number is an average. While I've been on an LAs-MCI midweek last flight of the day, and the load was pretty light, I've also been on far more "middle of the business week" flights where the load was a couple of seats shy of being full. I also experienced a 10 minute turn at MCI...Flight from MDW was late arriving, plane was unloaded and reloaded for the flight to OKC (about 90% full I'd guess) and was being pushed back right at 10 minutes.
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Fri May 11, 2007 2:57 am

Quoting Goingboeing (Reply 42):
You gotta remember...that "low 70's" number is an average.

Yep, and it also means some might be a lot less than that  Wink


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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Fri May 11, 2007 3:01 am

Quoting SANFan (Reply 39):
One other factor that could affect the number of :20 turns WN still does system-wide could be related to how many of a stations' flights are "thru" as opposed to "real turns".

This is a very good point. You would have to map the figures against how many people are actually deplaning and enplaining.

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 43):
Yep, and it also means some might be a lot less than that

But if they are red-eyes or repositioning flights? Remember, WN gets more cycles per day out of their aircraft as well. Still, the load factor IS a relevant figure on the thread topic, but I don't think that the LF figure is all that meaningful.

Good followup, what is the median rather than the average?
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Fri May 11, 2007 3:29 am

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 41):
How often do you guys have to ask for volunteers for the emergency exit row these days? You'd think with the internet, it's now pretty common knowledge that you get lots more legroom on these rows...but I guess you have to make sure that the exit row occupants are able-bodied and not minors

When I travel NR and the loads allow, I try to take a seat in the row either side of the exit row. Likewise if I've got my 13 and 15 year old with me. About half the time, someone in the exit row doesn't want to assume the duties etc. and it takes me about 2 nanoseconds to offer to switch seats. It keeps the kids close-by, and if in the rather unlike event we actually had to do an evac, I've been around the aircraft long enough where I can just about work the door in my sleep.

The extra legroom in the exit row is nice, but I leave that for the paying pax, and only take a seat in that row unless someone needs to swap out of it...
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Fri May 11, 2007 3:52 am

Quoting Tugger (Reply 40):
Well said and I certainly I won't disagree that there are several factors involved in SWA's success with the 20 minute turn. Some here have implied it is easy to turn a 737's cargo and luggage but I agree with you that it actually just a very well executed process by Southwest that makes it look easy and work so well.

This is why WN will stick with the 737-300 and 737-700 until Boeing engineers a suitable replacement. This is where one aircraft can make a serious difference. The end result is WN has their planes in the air on a revenue flight making money, rather than sitting around a gate for 1-2 hours. This is a significant return on investment in expensive equipment that any passenger aircraft represents.

Quoting Tugger (Reply 40):
But I will stick with my original statement that their boarding method gives SWA what they want: Passengers that are motivated to get onto the aircraft and into their seats quickly.

One aspect the "Cattle Herd" method does succeed at is people getting to the airport and through security on time, especially if it involves getting a descent seat vs. having a preferred seat given away. But the "brick wall" several studies have indicated WN has run into is attracting more passengers in markets they are already in, and the seating method is cited especially. Something that is a last remaining vestige of their upstart days back in the early 1970s as an inter-Texas carrier. With their computer upgrades coming and possible service to Canada, Mexico and the Caribbean, that is why many people see another group of "pre-A pass" borders coming into play which entails those who pre-picked a seat from the internet www.southwest.com site.
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Fri May 11, 2007 12:49 pm

They learned a lot from PSA!  Wink
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Fri May 11, 2007 2:07 pm

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 46):
This is why WN will stick with the 737-300 and 737-700 until Boeing engineers a suitable replacement. This is where one aircraft can make a serious difference. The end result is WN has their planes in the air on a revenue flight making money, rather than sitting around a gate for 1-2 hours. This is a significant return on investment in expensive equipment that any passenger aircraft represents.

I think WN has also told Boeing flat out that the 737RS must load quicker per-passenger, and be no slower at loading the bags/cargo. So we should see a "fatboy" with either twin aisles or one fat aisle, larger "entryway" than the current stupidly narrow hallway, and very close attenion paid to ergonomics of the cargo loading.

Oh and 149Y at SW current pitch or greater. Mmm free seats.

Given that some of the current routes MUST have 3-4 quick turns a day for it to work.... Turn times will be on the must have list of things Boeing needs to improve. Guessing speed in the air will also increase for WN's benifit. 5min here, 5min there doesn't seem like much but with the planes doing so many legs in a day... it adds up.
 
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RE: Southwest 20 Minute Turns

Fri May 11, 2007 11:49 pm

Quoting XT6Wagon (Reply 48):
I think WN has also told Boeing flat out that the 737RS must load quicker per-passenger, and be no slower at loading the bags/cargo. So we should see a "fatboy" with either twin aisles or one fat aisle, larger "entryway" than the current stupidly narrow hallway, and very close attenion paid to ergonomics of the cargo loading.

Perhaps even just as important with the airports they chose to serve, there will be gate requirements where suitable jetbridges can come into play. Perhaps the one virtue I love about some airports when flying on a DL 752 are jet-bridges that can accommodate a separate entry for the 1st and coach class cabins for both boarding and de-boarding. Who is to say that FMC Jetway and others can't design a jet-bridge that can load the rear and forward doors of a 737RS?

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