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Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Tue May 22, 2007 6:24 am

I just heard today that bmi have apparently sourced 330s or 340s from Air France to enable Transatlantic expansion ex-LHR next year. Can anyone provide anymore information about this?

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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Tue May 22, 2007 6:28 am

I doubt Air France would be letting go of any of their A330-200s but I know they have gotten rid of some of their A340-300s.
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Tue May 22, 2007 6:30 am

Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 1):
I doubt Air France would be letting go of any of their A330-200s but I know they have gotten rid of some of their A340-300s.

I think they'd be A340's. AF is not about to let any A332's go as they are still a vital part to their fleet.

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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Tue May 22, 2007 6:34 am

Would AF actually sell A343s to an airline that would be a competitor on the North Atlantic?
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Tue May 22, 2007 6:54 am

Are AF eventually planning to replace their A343 fleet?? What options are they thinking of?  Smile
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Tue May 22, 2007 6:55 am

When I first read the title I thought it said GF. Whilst its just me not being able to read, aren't GF looking to offload some aircraft and don't their A330s have the "right" engines?

I think BD would prefer A330s with RR engines but at the end of the day I think they'd take 2-3 Airbus widebody aircraft from wherever they can get them in the run up to next March.

Quoting Blsbls99 (Reply 3):
Would AF actually sell A343s to an airline that would be a competitor on the North Atlantic?

Yes.
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Tue May 22, 2007 7:12 am

Quoting Blsbls99 (Reply 3):
Would AF actually sell A343s to an airline that would be a competitor on the North Atlantic?

They did to Air Madrid and just recently to Audeli (Iberia).
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Tue May 22, 2007 7:30 am

Air France's A343 fleet was great in the early 1990's, then AF went to the 777. Then they went to 777-200ER's with 94,000 GE 90 engines and finally the 773ER. AF has such high regard for the 777 they introduced their new First Class on the 773ER.

BMI needs anything it can get, A343 will be great if they should go to Asia too, A332 can't reach Tokyo or HKG nonstop from LHR. BMI will do something big, I can't wait to see their flights to the USA.
 
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Tue May 22, 2007 7:43 am

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 7):
A332 can't reach Tokyo or HKG nonstop from LHR. BMI will do something big, I can't wait to see their flights to the USA.

Sorry, but that statement is incorrect. Cathay Pacific's Airbus A340-300s are reguarly sent to LHR.

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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Tue May 22, 2007 8:00 am

Quoting SQno1 (Reply 8):
Sorry, but that statement is incorrect. Cathay Pacific's Airbus A340-300s are reguarly sent to LHR.

I think you misread his post, he said 332 not 343. 332s don't quite make it to Asia.

Quoting Mk777 (Reply 4):
Would AF actually sell A343s to an airline that would be a competitor on the North Atlantic?

if the price is right, sure. Even better if BD offer to wash them when they get them

Edited as the post picked up the wrong quote.

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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Tue May 22, 2007 8:03 am

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 7):
BMI needs anything it can get, A343 will be great if they should go to Asia too, A332 can't reach Tokyo or HKG nonstop from LHR. BMI will do something big, I can't wait to see their flights to the USA.

The A332 can fly LHR-NRT and HKG. I have flown a AF A332 from NRT-CDG and LHR is slightly closer than CDG.

Quoting SQno1 (Reply 8):
Sorry, but that statement is incorrect. Cathay Pacific's Airbus A340-300s are reguarly sent to LHR.

He was actually talking about the A330 not 340, although he was still incorrect!
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Tue May 22, 2007 4:48 pm

Quoting ManchesterMAN (Reply 5):
When I first read the title I thought it said GF. Whilst its just me not being able to read, aren't GF looking to offload some aircraft and don't their A330s have the "right" engines?

GF are ADDING more A330's as well as A321's. They are replacing A340's and B767 and reverting to a two family operation
 
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Tue May 22, 2007 4:55 pm

If BD was truely acquiring some of AF's A330s, they'd simply wouldn't fit because of engine issues (AF uses GE engines, BD uses RR engines). So those GE powered A330s would be oddballs in BD fleet.
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Tue May 22, 2007 5:00 pm

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 12):
If BD was truely acquiring some of AF's A330s, they'd simply wouldn't fit because of engine issues (AF uses GE engines, BD uses RR engines). So those GE powered A330s would be oddballs in BD fleet.

Very true but there isn't exactly an abundance of correctly powered A330's out there to choose from. As already mentioned though, i think the chances of AF releasing their's is very remote.
 
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Tue May 22, 2007 5:07 pm

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 12):
If BD was truely acquiring some of AF's A330s, they'd simply wouldn't fit because of engine issues (AF uses GE engines, BD uses RR engines). So those GE powered A330s would be oddballs in BD fleet.

If you are desperate for longhaul aircraft as an interim solution, which bmi clearly are, any engine will do. Remember Etihad until recently had three different engine types in their fleet of A330s as a result of different leases and their own order.

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 7):
AF has such high regard for the 777 they introduced their new First Class on the 773ER.

Not quite down to them having a high regard, simply that they are matching aircraft to what they can do. AF have decided the 777 fleet is configured in a premium way whilst the airbus longhaul fleet is for lower yielding, more Y intensive routes.
 
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Tue May 22, 2007 6:43 pm

I wonder how BMI will fit this in to T1 if they plan to do it before BA move to Terminal 5? T1 is already rammed as it is and there is little room to move sometimes. It will be interesting seeing how they fit BMED in to T1 between October and BA moving out.
 
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Tue May 22, 2007 6:51 pm

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 7):
Air France's A343 fleet was great in the early 1990's, then AF went to the 777. Then they went to 777-200ER's with 94,000 GE 90 engines and finally the 773ER. AF has such high regard for the 777 they introduced their new First Class on the 773ER.

Thats correct. In fact AF were really pissed off when airbus announced they would only use RR on the A340-500/600 (After AF publicaly stating they intended to order the aircraft provided Airbus build it to suitable specs), which led to AF converting their outstanding Boeing options to 777s.
 
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Tue May 22, 2007 9:24 pm

Quoting SQno1 (Reply 8):
Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 7):
A332 can't reach Tokyo or HKG nonstop from LHR. BMI will do something big, I can't wait to see their flights to the USA.

Sorry, but that statement is incorrect. Cathay Pacific's Airbus A340-300s are reguarly sent to LHR.

Alex

I realize Cathay sends an A343 to LHR, I am referring to a A330-200.
 
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Tue May 22, 2007 9:27 pm

Quoting HUYfan (Thread starter):
I just heard today

Where did you hear this?

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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Tue May 22, 2007 9:46 pm

if the rumors are true, AF may very well be getting rid of some A330s in the near future too
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Tue May 22, 2007 10:03 pm

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 19):
if the rumors are true, AF may very well be getting rid of some A330s in the near future too

I find this very hard to believe. Their fleet is young (2001-2005) and it's one of the most in-demand widebodies around today. What would AF replace them with? And their 'other half', KLM, are still taking delivery of them.

Ah, maybe that's it - AF might transfer a few frames to Amsterdam? Then it's hardly "getting rid of"!
 
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Wed May 23, 2007 12:04 am

Quoting Blsbls99 (Reply 3):
Would AF actually sell A343s to an airline that would be a competitor on the North Atlantic?

Yes, because unlike those competitors, they also fly the 777. duck 

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 19):
if the rumors are true, AF may very well be getting rid of some A330s in the near future too

Your statement is self-explanatory. The reason behind this "might", and I reiterate, "might" be that some are leased and they won't renew the lease. But what will they use instead? The only alternative i can see is adding more 772s, but that means a step up in capacity and is that what they want?
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Wed May 23, 2007 2:30 am

Just heard it on the internal grapevine.

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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Wed May 23, 2007 2:37 am

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 12):
If BD was truely acquiring some of AF's A330s, they'd simply wouldn't fit because of engine issues (AF uses GE engines, BD uses RR engines). So those GE powered A330s would be oddballs in BD fleet

Considering BMI only has 3 A330's.. it could well be the Rolls Royces' are infact the oddballs in the fleet quite quickly.


Maybe AF would offer a servicing deal for the engines ?
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Wed May 23, 2007 2:42 am

Quoting StarGoldLHR (Reply 23):
Considering BMI only has 3 A330's.. it could well be the Rolls Royces' are infact the oddballs in the fleet quite quickly.

Considering that they operate the IAE V2500 on their A32X family, I think they are pretty good "friends" with RR. The ERJ's are fitted with Alisons, I beleive?

However WW still operates 737's with CFM-56's. So the A340-300 might offer some commonality there.

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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Wed May 23, 2007 4:23 am

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 19):
if the rumors are true, AF may very well be getting rid of some A330s in the near future too

NO WAY !

Back to the topic :

AF is operating only 16 A332 and that's already not enough. IT is much more likely to see AF adding more A332 in a near future rather than selling them !

About the A343, that would be possible.
The fleet has already been reduced from 22 aircraft to 19.

F-GLZB was sold to Air Madrid in 2005 as EC-JIS (now stored at BOD). F-GLZA was to follow when Air Madrid ceased operations.
The aircraft has finally been delivered recently to Audeli as EC-KCL.
AF will progressively retired more A343 in a medium term.
 
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Wed May 23, 2007 4:44 am

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 12):
If BD was truely acquiring some of AF's A330s, they'd simply wouldn't fit because of engine issues (AF uses GE engines, BD uses RR engines). So those GE powered A330s would be oddballs in BD fleet.

I'm sorry, but what's wrong with aquiring an aircraft with different engines?
 
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Wed May 23, 2007 4:48 am

Quoting B777A340Fan (Reply 26):
I'm sorry, but what's wrong with aquiring an aircraft with different engines?

Well, unless you're a major airline that can afford having different engine types in their fleet thanks to a very big MRO operation (e.g. LH and Lufthansa Technik), I guess commonality is a much bigger priority, especially in the maintenance sector.
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Wed May 23, 2007 5:10 am

Just form informations, does anyone knows how many A330 AF has, and were do they send em?

I know that TP needs A330, and there aren´t many available!

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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Wed May 23, 2007 5:32 am

Quoting Blsbls99 (Reply 3):
Would AF actually sell A343s to an airline that would be a competitor on the North Atlantic?

I don't think this would ever make a difference. Where your concurrents get their planes from, doesn't really matter. Even better, if they got them from someone else, you'd not make money from it.
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Wed May 23, 2007 5:32 am

BMI can always take SAS's RR A333 and give SAS A343. BMI has no neat solution to this problem unless it can get 5 RR A332 in the next 6-8 months. Even 767-300ER would not be a bad meduim term solution.
 
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Wed May 23, 2007 5:40 am

Quoting TP777 (Reply 28):
Just form informations, does anyone knows how many A330 AF has

16 A332

Quoting TP777 (Reply 28):
and were do they send em?

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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Wed May 23, 2007 5:49 am

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 30):
BMI can always take SAS's RR A333 and give SAS A343.

BD doesn't have any A343s in their longhaul fleet, only A332s and the Arkefly 767.
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Wed May 23, 2007 5:56 am

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 7):
A332 can't reach Tokyo or HKG nonstop from LHR.



Quoting ManchesterMAN (Reply 10):
The A332 can fly LHR-NRT and HKG. I have flown a AF A332 from NRT-CDG and LHR is slightly closer than CDG.

Just to clarify the issue, the A330-200 has a range of 6600nm. LHR-HKG and LHR-NRT are both around 5200nm, very well within the range of the A332. For a plane of its size, it has some endurance!
 
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Wed May 23, 2007 6:24 am

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 7):
A332 can't reach Tokyo or HKG nonstop from LHR

Wrong.

LHR - NRT = 5974mi / 9615km
LHR - HKG = 5994mi / 9647km

Air France is operating one of its 3 Daily flights CDG-NRT-CDG with an A332 (AF272/AF79). This is the longest nonstop regular flight operated by an A332.

CDG - NRT = 6048mi / 9734km
CDG - HKG = 5970mi / 9607 km

Last year, Air France introduced a second flight on the CDG-HKG route. It was operated by an A332 (now with a B772ER)
In the past, AF also operated the A332 on CDG-KIX.



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Range with max passengers and reserves at 230t MTOW 11,850km (6400nm) :

6400nm from LHR :



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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Wed May 23, 2007 6:30 am

Quoting DavidkunzVIE (Reply 29):
Quoting Blsbls99 (Reply 3):
Would AF actually sell A343s to an airline that would be a competitor on the North Atlantic?

I don't think this would ever make a difference. Where your concurrents get their planes from, doesn't really matter. Even better, if they got them from someone else, you'd not make money from it.

I think it matters to a certain degree. Now if Ryanair were to buy those A340s from Air France for their proposed long haul LCC, why would Air France "assist" them by selling them their aircraft? Especially when long haul widebody aircraft are in such demand?

Where else are their A340s on the market that BD can source? I know there are some Air Canada machines, but I thought those were swooped up by Swissair and TAM.

I suppose Air France may see BD as more of a threat to BA and VS when it comes to future long haul plans, which in turn would benefit AF.
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Wed May 23, 2007 7:58 am

Quoting B777A340Fan (Reply 26):
I'm sorry, but what's wrong with aquiring an aircraft with different engines?

imagine the food in your freezer...

lots of meat, chicken and fish.

Then you get a girlfriend who's vegetarian and you like her so much to risk losing.. what do you do...

buy another fridge, non-meat used cutlery saucepans, plates etc... and some cook books to learn to cook vegetarian.

After all this you buy the vegetarian food which goes bad after a week and a girlfriend who is temperamental about eating fish.

all of a sudden your wallets empty...

Same story for the planes... lots of new different spare parts, new education, engineering skills and the expense that goes with it.

same reason why Ryanair only has 1 type of plane.. it's cheaper.
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Wed May 23, 2007 8:12 am

I wonder how weight retricted the Air France A332 has to be to NRT and HKG ? While LHR is only about 200 miles further then CDG to Asia, those 200 miles matter to an A332 but but a 777 or a 744.

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 34):
CDG - NRT = 6048mi / 9734km
CDG - HKG = 5970mi / 9607 km

6000 miles is extreme for an A332, so I don't think BMI will use them to Asia.

SWISS which has plenty of A332 doesn't use them east of India or west to LAX, interesting that a huge A332 airline keeps them to ten hour destinations. Surely flying to many SWISS cities would be cheaper with A332 then A343 but NRT, BKK, HKG and LAX still are imporant to the SWISS network.
 
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Wed May 23, 2007 9:05 am

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 37):
While LHR is only about 200 miles further then CDG to Asia

CDG-NRT is longer than LHR-NRT

CDG - NRT = 6048mi / 9734km
LHR - NRT = 5974mi / 9615km

While CDG-HKG is shorter than LHR-HKG

LHR - HKG = 5994mi / 9647km
CDG - HKG = 5970mi / 9607 km

In any case, LHR-HKG is still shorther than CDG-NRT

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 37):
I wonder how weight retricted the Air France A332 has to be to NRT and HKG

I flew the route quite a few times, especially CDG-NRT-CDG and I don't think we had any weight restrictions as some of my NRT-CDG flights were really full.

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 37):
SWISS which has plenty of A332 doesn't use them east of India or west to LAX, interesting that a huge A332 airline keeps them to ten hour destinations. Surely flying to many SWISS cities would be cheaper with A332 then A343 but NRT, BKK, HKG and LAX still are imporant to the SWISS network.

This is not probably a question of range, but of passenger capacity : the A343 offers more seats (8P/48J/172Y) than the A332 (12P/42J/142Y), that's why probably Swiss is using more the A343 on its important routes.
Swiss could fly, if they wish, their A332 to LAX, BKK, HKG or NRT, the longest leg would be ZRH-NRT with 9618km (5976mi) .
 
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Wed May 23, 2007 3:33 pm

Just a thought.... but are VS getting any more A346's? If so they may have some spare A343's that BD might be able to get their hands on?

There are always rumours flying around about Virgins interest in BD.....

If they don't get together though, I guess VS would be selling aircraft to a competitor?

I think whatever happens, BD will make a hash of things, ending up wet leasing the banned PK 743's or something equaliy as foolish. Time will tell!
 
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Wed May 23, 2007 3:50 pm

Quoting BritMidDC9 (Reply 39):
Just a thought.... but are VS getting any more A346's?

AFAIK, VS actually deferred some A346 deliveries, so it could take some time until they actually get more A346s.
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Wed May 23, 2007 5:02 pm

Quoting BritMidDC9 (Reply 39):
There are always rumours flying around about Virgins interest in BD.....

its just virgins way of saying "look how big we are" to the british people.

It would be a sad day if VS ate BD. VS is nothing more than essex shop assistants and dagenham cab drivers pretending they are sophisticated aristocracy. At the end of the day you can fly the chav out of essex but you cant take the essex out of the chav.
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Wed May 23, 2007 5:44 pm

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 37):
I don't think BMI will use them to Asia.

Neither do I, considering bmi currently has no interest in the Asian market, instead focusing on the new BMED markets and expanding across the Atlantic.

Quoting BritMidDC9 (Reply 39):
If so they may have some spare A343's that BD might be able to get their hands on?

bmi management are quoted as saying that the A340 has two two many engines to work for the airline. Unless very desperate, I don't see bmi adding this extra type.

Quoting BritMidDC9 (Reply 39):
There are always rumours flying around about Virgins interest in BD.....

Virgin have been interested in buying bmi since the early 1990s when their bid for Dan Air collapsed. All it is is an interest in gaining more slots, virgin would asset strip the group, which is something SMB would not allow when selling the company.
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Wed May 23, 2007 5:47 pm

Quoting StarGoldLHR (Reply 41):
VS is nothing more than essex shop assistants and dagenham cab drivers pretending they are sophisticated aristocracy. At the end of the day you can fly the chav out of essex but you cant take the essex out of the chav.

LOL!!

I agree it would be a sad day if BD merged with VS, to be honest I don't see it happening, SMB is too proud a man to allow it to happen. It has been his ambition to fly T/Atlantic out of LHR for many a year and know it's actually happening he has no aircraft to operate the routes with. Let's hope they can get it sorted quickly. I like BD Big grin

Incidentally (slightly off topic I know), I flew with VS recently and was very very disappointed with the service I received. It made me laugh when the Cabin Service Director (who admittedly was quite chavvy) thanked the crew for 'providing such wonderful service' over the PA after she had made her 'we have begun our decent into Hong Kong' announcement. The crew couldn't have been more surly, unfriendly or slower if they had tried!
 
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Wed May 23, 2007 6:30 pm

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 37):
SWISS which has plenty of A332 doesn't use them east of India or west to LAX, interesting that a huge A332 airline keeps them to ten hour destinations. Surely flying to many SWISS cities would be cheaper with A332 then A343 but NRT, BKK, HKG and LAX still are imporant to the SWISS network.



Quoting FlySSC (Reply 38):
This is not probably a question of range, but of passenger capacity : the A343 offers more seats (8P/48J/172Y) than the A332 (12P/42J/142Y), that's why probably Swiss is using more the A343 on its important routes.
Swiss could fly, if they wish, their A332 to LAX, BKK, HKG or NRT, the longest leg would be ZRH-NRT with 9618km (5976mi) .

If I recall correctly, Swiss doesn't use the A330 on the longer routes to LAX and Asia due to the lack of crew rest bunkers in the belly. Installing such a bunker would take away cargo capacity, something which is profitable for the airline. The A343 accomodates better in the need for crew rest, and as such is used on the longer routes. Plus the argument of capacity off course. Don't forget though that regularly the A340 flies to US destinations such as JFK and BOS, which are normally visited by the A330.
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Wed May 23, 2007 6:41 pm

Got my spotting hat on, but I must say, a BD A343 will be absolutely stunningly beautiful.

Got my analsyt hat on - great if they can do it. I hope it happens.
What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
 
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RE: Bmi Getting Ex-AF 330/340s?

Wed May 23, 2007 10:09 pm

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 45):
Got my spotting hat on, but I must say, a BD A343 will be absolutely stunningly beautiful.

Heck, I've always said that the beautiful shimmering bmi livery is waiting to grace an A380, but I doubt that'll happen in my and my children's lifetimes (unless they decide to make a quick buck leasing out the Embraers and borrow one for sixteen times as much to cover ABZ-NWI)  duck 

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