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Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 41):
Quoting NYC777 (Reply 40):
One thing that John Leahy lacks is respect for the competition and if you don't have respect for the competition you get into trouble. It's already happened at Airbus, I think with the way he talks, it'll happen again.
Get over yourself - do you realise how pompous that sounds?
He's a salesman - thats what he does. Just because he isnt a Boeing cheerleader like you doesnt mean he is a complete buffoon - and FYI i'll be he has A GREAT DEAL of respect for what he's up against, its just that he thinks he's got a product that beats it, and he should say so.
Call me what you will but you can still mask the fact that it is arrogance is what got Airbus into trouble, arrogance and lack of respect for Boeing and what they can do. John Leahy embodies that arrogance and lack of respect at Airbus. I don't care if John Leahy is a lifelong member of the Airbus cheerleading squad in his skirt and pom poms he and the rest of Airbus grew too big in their own minds for their own good. Look at where Boeing is and where Airbus is.
How did it get to be...arrogance and lack of respect. Never thinking that your competitor, when he down, like Boeing was in the late 90s, can make it back to challenge you again. I dare you to refute that.
Arrogance yes, I'd go along with that to a point, but then Airbus were the leading airliner producer a few years back so a little bit of arrogance is not unexpected. I think what got Airbus into trouble was the age old thing here in Europe - everyone not really communicating effectively, and things getting lost in the translation - there is the issue of national pride and protectionism for each country's own interests - something we are very accustomed to here. I think its fair to say that in the past Airbus have UNDERESTIMATED Boeing and in particular the 777-300ER, but its also safe to say that Airbus learned that lesson a long time ago and its one they will not forget in a hurry. I think you are seeking to make things personal, as if it were one sports team or one boxer against the other, and contrary to the beliefs of many on here, thats not how Europeans do business.
You say nobody in Airbus thought Boeing would come back as strongly as they did? I'd respectfully suggest you pulled that out of nowhere - you dont get to be running a massive multinational by being that way - at least not in Europe. Everyone connected with this industry, including your good self I have no doubt, knows that things are cyclical - it is the way of the world , the way of big business and it is most definitely the way of the airline business. Nobody thought Boeing was dead and buried - you wont be able to find me a quote. I think in your eagerness to engender some form of macho/nationalist competition you are perhaps wanting to see things that simply were not there. There's no doubt that Airbus have been naive, and in some cases incompetent in the way they have handled things, but to say they were arrogant enough to assume Boeing was down and out and no longer a threat etc - well thats just silly, and I think you know this.
My last point is this - what exactly is it that you think Airbus has become?
They have the absolutely dominant narrowbody market share and the vastly successful A32X series still doing tremendously well.
They have, despite some very costly and embarassing delays, the flagship A380 about to be delivered to airlines offering a step up to a new level (pun most certainly intended) of customer space, prestige, and CASM - Airbus has the best CASM product flying at the moment, regardless of whether you like it or not. It is trouncing the nearest competitor and will probably see another surge of orders once EIS goes off - its a new plane with vast potential for future variants, and should see Airbus cinched in the VLA market for the foreseeable.
They cannot build A330s fast enough and although Boeing's success with the 777-300ER and 787 variants has been hugely positive for everyone in the industry, Airbus has its A350XWB gaining momentum and is gaining important orders as well - the 787 has got a worthy competitor and thats good for everyone too.
Airbus is in a right pickle - on the egde of collapse and a total sham from top to bottom with no prospects in the short, medium, or long term whatsoever huh? Yes things have not gone to plan but lessons have been learned and things have been changed - its not like Airbus lost the farm to Boeing is it? I know many people on here wish that were so, but it just is not the case.
What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???