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I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:05 pm

yesterday i flew DL out of IAH's A terminal on an international itinerary in first class. This being said , I headed to the skyteam (continental presidents club) lounge. The 2 women in the lounge asked for my ID and said I could not enter because I was only 20 years old. They simply told me " well come back in a year" . This being said , I have never been denied into a lounge especially as a first class customer. Later that night I went into the Singapore Airlines First class lounge at SFO when I awaited my flight to HKG. it was certainly nothing to brag about. Anyway, does anyone know if CO lounges really have a 21 rule ?


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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:09 pm

Just going to ask if you are 20 why does your profile say 21-25?
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:13 pm

Quoting KingAirMan (Thread starter):
Anyway, does anyone know if CO lounges really have a 21 rule ?

Probably unaccompanied because they have an open bar.
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:24 pm

Did you write an e-mail to CO and ask?
 
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:27 pm

Quoting Aa757first (Reply 3):
Did you write an e-mail to CO and ask?

Or you could make 2 clicks on CO's website

http://www.continental.com/web/en-US...t/travel/airport/lounge/rules.aspx
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:29 pm

Quoting KingAirMan (Thread starter):
Anyway, does anyone know if CO lounges really have a 21 rule ?

I would imagine that the lounge is based on whatever drinking age they have in Texas. I don't know what age CA has for drinking, but it might be different.
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:29 pm

This doesn't really answer the question exactly, but according to Priority Pass, which has a contract with the IAH Terminal A Continental President's Club, "cardholder must be 21 years of age." (If you aren't familiar, you can get a Priority Pass card, which gets you in to lots and lots of airport clubs.)

That's probably the case in all DL, NW, and CO clubs now that they all serve free alcohol, but I can't answer with any authority.
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:31 pm

Quoting AerorobNZ (Reply 5):
Quoting KingAirMan (Thread starter):
Anyway, does anyone know if CO lounges really have a 21 rule ?

I would imagine that the lounge is based on whatever drinking age they have in Texas. I don't know what age CA has for drinking, but it might be different.

21 years of age in all 50 states.

If you click the nice link from 1120A

"You must be at least 21 years of age to qualify for membership. "

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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:40 pm

Quoting AerorobNZ (Reply 5):

I would imagine that the lounge is based on whatever drinking age they have in Texas

No, it is Continental's internal policy. They could allow under 21s in the club, they would just have to card them at the bar.

Quoting AerorobNZ (Reply 5):
I don't know what age CA has for drinking, but it might be different.

21 in all 50 states
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:59 pm

NW, DL, and CO, all of which have free alcohol (and in NW's case, self serve alcohol), all entrants must be 21 of age, or be acompanied by a family member or guardian.
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:03 pm

Sorry to hear about your frustration, but that's part of being 20 in the USA. Kind of silly, but when you turn 21, you won't really care anymore.

Quoting DFW13L (Reply 6):
That's probably the case in all DL, NW, and CO clubs now that they all serve free alcohol, but I can't answer with any authority.

Always has been. Under 21 can only come when accompanied by member (who obviously is 21 or older) or by parents/guardians if flying on international itinerary that would qualify you for entry.

Rules are rules. If they were to waive them, and then you did something dumb, they'd be liable.
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:41 pm

Quoting Itsnotfinals (Reply 7):
If you click the nice link from 1120A

"You must be at least 21 years of age to qualify for membership. "

True. But you do not need to be a member for lounge access:

http://www.continental.com/web/en-US...travel/airport/lounge/default.aspx

BusinessFirst and International Business Class customers are also welcome to visit the Presidents Club. A same-day BusinessFirst or International Business Class boarding pass is required for admission. BusinessFirst customers can also bring up to two guests, or a spouse and children under the age of 21. Domestic First Class customers do not qualify for admission.

No age restriction for International First Class customers.
 
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:10 pm

If the drinking age is 21, it makes perfect sense for somebody who is 20 not to be allowed into a club where there is self-serv alcohol...
 
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:12 pm

Were you dressed appropriately or did you have the "Richard Simmons Look" in flip flops?
I am not being a smart ass, I am just curious. Perhaps this was the real excuse why you were shot down.
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:19 pm

well how come under 21s are allowed into Red Carpet lounge unaccompanied i know because i have seen it with my own eyes, is it because the bar is not open bar and staffed by a bartender? or is it just a different policy UA takes on age requirements?

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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:22 pm

Number 1. I was not looking for membership, but a simple place to rest until my departure

Number 2. This is not a whiney thread, its a question

Number 3. I was dressed in a button down , nice khaki shorts , and close towed shoes

Number 4. I was indeed on an Internation Itinerary

Number 5. I was able to get into any Star Alliance members lounge, as well as the red carpet lounge in SFO

I will be making a trip report in the next few days, I still have lots of flying to do around Asia in order to make the "ultimate report"

what to expect: SQ first class , Ex song first class, Delta first class , Cathay economy 744 to NRT back to HKG, Dragonair to shanghai back to HKG. SQ back to sfo. DL to CVG-ATL-AUS all via first class and possibly One two go orient, tiger air, or vietnam airlines trip. This will certainly be an exciting to weeks. Lookf foward to sharing it!
 
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:32 pm

Quoting GBan (Reply 11):
BusinessFirst and International Business Class customers are also welcome to visit the Presidents Club. A same-day BusinessFirst or International Business Class boarding pass is required for admission. BusinessFirst customers can also bring up to two guests, or a spouse and children under the age of 21. Domestic First Class customers do not qualify for admission.

You still need to be 21 to enter.

Also, you forgot to mention American Express Platinum members may enter DL/CO/NW clubs on day of travel in any class of service and bring up to 2 guests. I have been doing that for years.
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:49 pm

It's unbelievable a person paying an international F/J fare is not allowed into a lounge because there is self-serve alcohol............

Put a bartender and make every passenger able to enjoy the privileges of paying high fares......take care of your high yield customers no matter their age........
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:53 pm

Quoting UPPERDECKFAN (Reply 21):
It's unbelievable a person paying an international F/J fare is not allowed into a lounge because there is self-serve alcohol............

Right, I can see it now.....underage kid gets drunk in Airline Club, parents sue.

I have no problem with this rule.
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:29 pm

Sorry bud, your 20! When your 21 you can come in and drink with the big boys. Until then, mommy has to come along. Just messing with you. I know TABC is hard on these clubs with open bars and service. If your under 21 they reserve the right for you to sit outside the club.

I wonder how many under 21 year olds fly first class???
 
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:36 pm

Quoting XJETFlyer (Reply 25):

I wonder how many under 21 year olds fly first class???

Well, if daddy pays...  laughing 

I admit i fly Business class quite often on interconti trips, but thats because i get to travel on ID90 tix.
 
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:49 pm

A few weeks ago, there were reports on FlyerTalk that Michigan was sending in underage kids to try and access the WorldClubs at DTW. Fortunately, the agents denied these kids access; if they were allowed access, NW could have easily lost it's alcohol license at DTW (since all the WorldClubs there have self-serve alcohol), which would have angered NW's customers. I support CO 100% for denying the OP admission; they don't know if it's a bust, so they're not going to let an underage kid come in when (a) if something happens, they're liable since the kid shouldn't be drinking and (b) they could lose the liquor license.

As for how many 21 year olds fly F, I'm 21 and have sat up front about 10 times this year; only once have I flown on a plane with First Class and I sat in coach (Thank you complimentary Delta Medallion upgrades). However, I have a friend whose father is on a work assignment in Shanghai and she goes to college with me. Her father's contract allows for the company to fly her to and from China (in coach) at the beginning and end of semesters on their dime; since it's long trip, the father (who is ExPlat with AA) will always use his miles or e-VIPs to upgrade her to Business class.
 
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:55 pm

Quoting XJETFlyer (Reply 25):
I wonder how many under 21 year olds fly first class???

Some do. Some also fly on fractional ownership and corporate jets, so you never get to see them at the commercial airlines.
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:55 pm

Quoting UPPERDECKFAN (Reply 21):
It's unbelievable a person paying an international F/J fare is not allowed into a lounge because there is self-serve alcohol............

There is no self-serve alcohol in that President's Club, or any of the ones I have been in. The same goes for the DL Crown Room and the NW clubs that I have visited. As for him having an international itinerary I believe his ticket on CO was just for IAH-SFO and not tied to the SQ leg. If that is true then even if he had been 21 they would not have let him into the lounge because the international portion of the trip had nothing to do with CO and just flying domestic F class doesn't get you into the lounge.

Bottom line is the kid was under 21 and traveling alone. CO has rules for entry into their club and he didn't meet them in one way, shape, or form.
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:27 am

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 29):
There is no self-serve alcohol in that President's Club, or any of the ones I have been in. The same goes for the DL Crown Room and the NW clubs that I have visited

Then you have not been to the WorldClubs very often. DTW is self serve, and so is LGA. It has been that way ever since I can remember.
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:38 am

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 29):
There is no self-serve alcohol in that President's Club, or any of the ones I have been in. The same goes for the DL Crown Room and the NW clubs that I have visited.

As well as the ones mentioned by Dtwclipper, the shared CO / NW lounge in ORD has a self-serve bar. There are some others too I'm sure.
 
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:08 am

Quoting CaptainTim (Reply 16):
well how come under 21s are allowed into Red Carpet lounge unaccompanied i know because i have seen it with my own eyes, is it because the bar is not open bar and staffed by a bartender? or is it just a different policy UA takes on age requirements?

UA charges for it's alcohol.

Technically, once youve cleared customs and immigration (i.e in the US entered past security in an exclusively international terminal) you have left the United States.
This is why you can buy duty free and so on.

This may be why UA let you in but CO in the domestic terminal did not ?

I bet on your SQ flight they offered you inflight alcohol... and for free... and in Hong Kong you can buy whatever you like and bring it back to the US, most likely no one would know.

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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:10 am

Let's give the poor guy a break, I remember when I was 20 and we were all there.

Quoting KingAirMan (Thread starter):
Later that night I went into the Singapore Airlines First class lounge at SFO when I awaited my flight to HKG. it was certainly nothing to brag about.

You're right, it sucks. I've been to many international carrier's lounges at SFO and SQ's is the worst. Was there last week and was very disappointed.
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:10 am

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 20):
Right, I can see it now.....underage kid gets drunk in Airline Club, parents sue

Please, dont'be so basic....

Of course everybody has to comply with the law, so my belief is that airlines should take the measures to enable every passenger to enjoy the plus services provided to the ones who pay the high fares without age discrimination.....

If the issue is having to avoid drinking by people under 21, put a bartender and control it but the passenger should be able to enjoy the other amenities offered on the lounge (comfort/quietness/soft drinks/snacks/internet access/etc).
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:16 am

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 24):
Well, if daddy pays... laughing

The last segments I flew were on NW MSP-LAX-MSP in first class. I paid for my airfare 100%.
 
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:19 am

Quoting UPPERDECKFAN (Reply 32):
Please, dont'be so basic....

And don't be so naive.

"Membership in WorldClubs is open to all persons age 21 and older. Use of all WorldClubs facilities is subject to the rules and conditions set by Northwest Airlines, which are subject to change at any time."


They are considered private clubs. Remember when AA started the Admirals Club it was by invitation only.

Quoting UPPERDECKFAN (Reply 32):
age discrimination

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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:36 am

Old enough to buy a first class ticket....old enough to enter the club.
 
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:40 am

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 20):
Right, I can see it now.....underage kid gets drunk in Airline Club, parents sue.

I have no problem with this rule.

Or, Like a real airline - employ some staff in a first class lounge?!?! Laughable are the US airlines, you lot must be ashamed of them.

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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:40 am

We are not talking about a membership denied, but about a F class international ticket. It is perfectly understandable that he is upset about not getting into the lounge. The basic idea is that you want to kill your time as a F class pax in a nice and decent place as you have paid a fortune for your ticket. If airlines sell first class tickets to those younger than 21 travelling unaccompanied, they should work out how they accommodate them in a lounge. Obviously they are able to deal with the problem on board of the airplane, so it cannot be rocket science to work it out on the ground? Costs money ? Sure, so does the F class ticket.
 
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:41 am

When I was under 21 it was strictly BYOB, haha. Oh that was before the whole liquid fiasco though.
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:41 am

He wasn't flying with CO. His very fist sentence states he was flying with DL.

I am assuming you flew IAH-SLC-SFO to then connect to Singapore Airlines. Is that right?

I would think that besides being under 21 (a valid reason to deny access), since the Presidents Club in Terminal A is about 1 week old, the people at the check may have been thrown off by your double DL flights and then a international flight with a carrier that isn't a part of SkyTeam.
 
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:44 am

I feel very sorry for you!
I've been drinking beer in Lufthansa's Lounges at the age of 15 and there was no problem(self serve - german drinking age 16). Singapore Airlines served me wine when I was 16 and finally last year UA offered me a Heineken and I was only 20! Hope the F/A did not lost her job...Absolutly not old enough to drink a can of beer!  Wink
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So,is there the same rule for UA Intl. First Class Lounges? I'm pretty sure they have self-serve booze too!
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:44 am

Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 36):
Or, Like a real airline - employ some staff in a first class lounge?!?! Laughable are the US airlines, you lot must be ashamed of them.

Sorry buddy, but you are off base here. The KL clubs in AMS are also self serve.

Though I wouldn't expect much more from another 16-20 year old. Tell me PR, how much experience in your 16 to 20 years have you had with flying in the US in First and what about your memberships to US based airline club rooms?
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:53 am

Quoting Morrirvolando (Reply 35):
Old enough to buy a first class ticket....old enough to enter the club.

Old enough to fight and die for your country, or old enough to elect the civilian leadership, old enough to enjoy a beer, right? Except ... not.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you in principle, but I can see why this policy exists. On the whole, it probably solves a lot more problems than it causes.
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:54 am

You think this is unfair, go try renting a car with most agencies, even at age 24!

Quoting Incitatus (Reply 21):
However the international leg was on Singapore Airlines. On Continental you were just flying to San Francisco.

I thought he said it was DL? What's CO doing flying to SFO out of Terminal A in IAH. Then again, what's DL doing flying to SFO out of terminal A?

And again, why does the guy say he's 20 when his profile says otherwise?

Quoting StarGoldLHR (Reply 30):
Technically, once youve cleared customs and immigration (i.e in the US entered past security in an exclusively international terminal) you have left the United States.This is why you can buy duty free and so on.

No, not in the USA. The only sterile areas we have in that regard are the space between disembarking and the immigration control line. We have no "non-USA" sterile areas in our airports on the embarkation side at this point. Even transit lounges have been closed.

Now if your plane is diverted and all remain on the plane, then that plane is still considered not yet in america.
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:57 am

Quoting KingAirMan (Thread starter):
CO lounges really have a 21 rule ?

i've been in there and not even close to 18.
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:01 am

IMHO President's Club access is restricted to 21+ because of the alcohol factor. But beyond that, I think it has something to do with restricting the number of 18 year olds in the club. If you've ever been inside a P-Club you would have noticed the average age in there. I'm 23, and when I walk in when it's busy, I feel like everyone looks at me.

Quoting UPPERDECKFAN (Reply 19):
It's unbelievable a person paying an international F/J fare is not allowed into a lounge because there is self-serve alcohol............

At what age do you think CO should deny access to the Club? Bars and clubs restrict access all the time to people under a certain age. Here in the states it's 21, but abroad it's 18. What if a 17 year old is traveling on a paid first class ticket? Should they let him in?

Quoting UPPERDECKFAN (Reply 32):
Of course everybody has to comply with the law, so my belief is that airlines should take the measures to enable every passenger to enjoy the plus services provided to the ones who pay the high fares without age discrimination.....



Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 36):
Or, Like a real airline - employ some staff in a first class lounge?!?! Laughable are the US airlines, you lot must be ashamed of them.

I am a Priority Pass Member and frequent the P-Club at EWR frequently. I have also been to the P-Clubs in SJU, FLL, LAX, IAH, and DCA. All of which had bartenders. The problem becomes when you enter them at 4pm and they are jammed. The bartender would have to check everyone's ID everytime they came up to the bar.
 
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:03 am

I really don't understand all the outrage here. To me, CO's policies regarding denying entry are a business decision...pure and simple...like everything else.

How many people like the OP are going to be a minor, have purchased a first class international ticket, and not be accompanied by someone over the age of 21? Answer = not many.

How many people would be peeved if CO lost its liquor license in the club for serving to minors? A lot!

So, you keep the masses happy. You can argue all you want about whether the carding should be done upon entry or at the bar... but if you don't let them in at all, there is no chance of them getting the liquor (I'm not saying that's what the OP was trying to do).

By the way, most bars at U.S. airports card 100 percent even if you are 67.

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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:06 am

Quoting KingAirMan (Reply 15):
what to expect: SQ first class , Ex song first class, Delta first class , Cathay economy 744 to NRT back to HKG, Dragonair to shanghai back to HKG. SQ back to sfo. DL to CVG-ATL-AUS all via first class and possibly One two go orient, tiger air, or vietnam airlines trip. This will certainly be an exciting to weeks. Lookf foward to sharing it!

Make sure to visit the SKL in SIN Changi on the way back, should make up for the President's Club.  Wink
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FlyingTexan
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:15 am

 cry   cry   cry 

once you turn 21, you can go in with the big boys


Till then, enjoy flying the globe in the pointy end
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GoAllegheny
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:18 am

Continental's policies may not clearly spell out that an under-21 first class passenger who is not a member of Continental's club can't enter the President's Club, but it makes sense, considering that membership is restricted to 21 and over, and our drinking laws prohibit drinking under 21. There's no doubt in my mind that the cost of a bartender far exceeds either the benefits or the angry under-21 passengers. So yes, he's upset, which I understand. He'll just have to wait a year.
 
morrirvolando
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:27 am

Quoting N844AA (Reply 42):
Old enough to fight and die for your country, or old enough to elect the civilian leadership, old enough to enjoy a beer, right? Except ... not.Don't get me wrong, I agree with you in principle, but I can see why this policy exists. On the whole, it probably solves a lot more problems than it causes.

You're joking, no?
 
shane
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:30 am

Quoting KingAirMan (Reply 15):
nice khaki shorts

That's an oxymoron if I ever heard one!

Still, in your defense, the US liquor laws are ridiculous.
 
n844aa
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:35 am

Quoting Morrirvolando (Reply 50):
You're joking, no?

About?

I can see why the airlines restrict paying F customers not of age from their lounges. I don't particularly agree with it, but I see the rationale. My point was that it's more defensible than the other age-based double standards in existence in American society.
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CaptainJon
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RE: I Was Denied Into The CO Presidents Club!

Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:35 am

So... since the majority of the planet has far more reasonable drinking laws than the US, how do US carriers handle drinking of 18-20's on international flights? I would assume US law no longer applies? The only time I flew international as a minor was with LY and I was served alcohol, though in Israel you need to be 18 to drink. Would international lounges restrict members to 18+'s then?

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