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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:20 am

Quoting SailorOrion (Reply 80):
So let's add a few:
What about MCI, STL, IND?

No international carrier like LH is going to touch IND until they move out of this embarrassing facility they have now. Current airport management is so cheap they couldn't even bother to put a jetway on the international arrivals barn. Maybe late 2008 or 2009.
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:42 am

Hi...

New LH Winter destinations until now:

- FRA-MCO (5/7 A330)
- FRA-KHI-LAHORE-FRA (3/7 A300600)

And more to come!!
 
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:58 am

FRA-MCO-FRA

There's no way I can believe this. I mean it's great to see LH expanding, but does anyone think that this route will be high yielding for LH. I've always viewed them to be more oriented towards higher yielding destinations which MCO is a far cry from being in my opinion.
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:58 am

FRA-MCO-FRA

There's no way I can believe this. I mean it's great to see LH expanding, but does anyone think that this route will be high yielding for LH? I've always viewed them to be more oriented towards higher yielding destinations which MCO is a far cry from being in my opinion.
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:04 am

Quoting LHboyatDTW (Reply 102):

There's no way I can believe this. I mean it's great to see LH expanding, but does anyone think that this route will be high yielding for LH. I've always viewed them to be more oriented towards higher yielding destinations which MCO is a far cry from being in my opinion.

That part is actually taken care of. I can't elaborate, but you're right that LH would not start a service without strong high-yield potential.
 
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:40 am

OK my cents worth!!!!

LH is a powerhouse, top-rated international airline!!!!

That said, they are in a different class then most airlines serving SEA now. AF/BA/SK are good, but LH would bring in a different level of service.

LH vs. SK??? Don't think it matters........SK has a very strong base in the SEA area and that won't change. In fact I think the two would help each other but hurt BA and AF.

NW has built a strong base as well and wouldn't feel it too much.

I don't by into the notion that SEA is just a summer market. SK and BA haven't cut service over the winter in years. In fact, BA added summer service and has kept it going for the last few winters.

Remember with YVR getting the olympics SEA will see alot of push from this as well.

The cruise market has been mentioned, but the business market here will be enough to support SEA-FRA!!!
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:21 pm

Quoting Bolu340 (Reply 101):
- FRA-KHI-LAHORE-FRA (3/7 A300600)

Wow, an AB6 to Pakistan!?! I'm guessing that they're going to put some real biz class seats in this bird and not the econ seats they normally have for biz class (with the middle seat empty).
 
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:35 pm

Quoting HanginOut (Reply 106):

Wow, an AB6 to Pakistan!?! I'm guessing that they're going to put some real biz class seats in this bird and not the econ seats they normally have for biz class (with the middle seat empty).

Yep, that's exactly right. 10 A300-600s will receive the same new business class seats that were just installed on the rest of the longhaul fleet.
 
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:39 pm

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 41):
FRA-MSY on LH would probably be a gold mind for the airline

Not as long as New Orleans has a murder rate 8 times higher than the national average...

[Edited 2007-06-27 06:39:54]
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:27 pm

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 108):
Not as long as New Orleans has a murder rate 8 times higher than the national average...

Thta does not stop LH serving JNB or GRU. When there is enough business to be made than they fly there.
 
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:51 pm

Quoting JoFMO (Reply 109):

same with DTW. There are dozens of drive by shootings here and look, they have 2x daily A333 flights which are performing splendidly. Even if the city has a bad image, LH appears to be pleased with their operations here.
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:30 pm

Quoting LHBSL (Thread starter):
Yep, that's exactly right. 10 A300-600s will receive the same new business class seats that were just installed on the rest of the longhaul fleet.

Hello LHUSA,

Will they all be refurbished for the beginning of the winter timetable?
Will they all be redeployed to international medium/longhaul?
Any ideas about the routes they will fly?

Quoting LHBSL (Thread starter):
- FRA-MCO (5/7 A330)
- FRA-KHI-LAHORE-FRA (3/7 A300600)

Do you know if FRA-BOG-LIM is confirmed for the winter timetable?
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:34 pm

Quoting Bolu340 (Reply 101):
- FRA-MCO (5/7 A330)
- FRA-KHI-LAHORE-FRA (3/7 A300600)

Where is the source for this information?

-JD
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:59 pm

Quoting LH506 (Reply 111):
Do you know if FRA-BOG-LIM is confirmed for the winter timetable?

I read something about a FRA-CCS-BOG service on a daily basis...haven't heard anything about LIM yet. Does anyone know anything about a potential service to UIO?
 
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:14 pm

When will the seattle flight begin? Will they fly to Frankfurt or Munich? With this flight, do they plan to discontinue flying to Portland?
 
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:19 pm

Quoting LHPDX (Reply 114):
When will the seattle flight begin? Will they fly to Frankfurt or Munich? With this flight, do they plan to discontinue flying to Portland?

Who said that SEA is confirmed?
 
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:36 pm

Quoting LH506 (Reply 111):
Hello LHUSA,

Will they all be refurbished for the beginning of the winter timetable?
Will they all be redeployed to international medium/longhaul?
Any ideas about the routes they will fly?

They should all be completed this summer. I assume they will be used on medium-range flights to the Middle East and western Asia. This should free up some A340s and A333s to begin new longhaul destinations.
 
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:20 am

Quoting Bolu340 (Reply 101):
- FRA-MCO (5/7 A330)
- FRA-KHI-LAHORE-FRA (3/7 A300600)

Again...


Where is the press release or information regarding this?

-JD
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:03 am

Quoting FLYGUY767 (Reply 117):
Again...


Where is the press release or information regarding this?

-JD

Hi FLYGUY767

...just trus us...

Regards  hot 

[Edited 2007-06-27 18:27:58]
 
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:00 am

Quoting Bolu340 (Reply 101):
- FRA-MCO (5/7 A330)
- FRA-KHI-LAHORE-FRA (3/7 A300600)

And more to come!!

Hi,

I dont think so an AB6 can fly with a full payload on the FRA-KHI and LHE-FRA routes especially in the summer months. That was one of the main reasons why LH's KHI flights in the 1990s were routed via AUH or DXB.
 
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:58 am

Hi FLYGUY767

I can only say as well......just trust us....!!

Regards
 
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:29 am

Quoting LH506 (Reply 111):
Will they all be refurbished for the beginning of the winter timetable?
Will they all be redeployed to international medium/longhaul?

i don't think they'll all be reconfigured that quickly.
they will also still operate on European routes.

Quoting LH506 (Reply 111):
Do you know if FRA-BOG-LIM is confirmed for the winter timetable?

no word on that one, i wouldn't hold my breath.

Quoting LHPDX (Reply 114):
When will the seattle flight begin? Will they fly to Frankfurt or Munich? With this flight, do they plan to discontinue flying to Portland?

SEA is being considered, as it has been for quite some time. but i don't think there will be anymore major announcements for the upcoming winter months, at least not about SEA.
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:05 am

Quoting Bolu340 (Reply 101):
- FRA-KHI-LAHORE-FRA (3/7 A300600)

Really hope that is true. Welcome back to Pakistan, LH, and all the best this time  bigthumbsup 
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:13 am

600s will receive the same new business class seats that were just installed on the rest of the longhaul fleet.[/quote]

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 119):
Quoting Bolu340 (Reply 101):
- FRA-MCO (5/7 A330)
- FRA-KHI-LAHORE-FRA (3/7 A300600)

And more to come!!

Hi,

I dont think so an AB6 can fly with a full payload on the FRA-KHI and LHE-FRA routes especially in the summer months. That was one of the main reasons why LH's KHI flights in the 1990s were routed via AUH or DXB.

.... checkmark ...I'm quite curious to see how LH pulls this one...I would think the A332 would be better for this route....

FRA-AUH/DXB-KHI won't be competitive..it has to be nonstop...

Quoting EmiratesCPH (Reply 122):
Quoting Bolu340 (Reply 101):
- FRA-KHI-LAHORE-FRA (3/7 A300600)

Really hope that is true. Welcome back to Pakistan, LH, and all the best this time  bigthumbsup 

..it would be awesome to see LH back at KHI..I flew LH to KHI back in the mid 1980's... biggrin 
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:24 am

Quoting LHBSL (Thread starter):
I dont think so an AB6 can fly with a full payload on the FRA-KHI and LHE-FRA routes especially in the summer months. That was one of the main reasons why LH's KHI flights in the 1990s were routed via AUH or DXB.

.... ...I'm quite curious to see how LH pulls this one...I would think the A332 would be better for this route....

FRA-AUH/DXB-KHI won't be competitive..it has to be nonstop...

Well they are flying their AB6 to Almaty and Astana. How much longer is FRA-KHI or Lahore-FRA???
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:50 am

According to what was discussed in this thread: LH Longhaul Fleet Configuration (by Stylo777 Jun 4 2007 in Civil Aviation) only 4 A300-600 are configured as AB6, that airplane is also needed to LHR and high density german routes, so not all will be reconfigured for medium-haul.

Good to see LH back in Pakistan, when was the last time they flew there?
Not so long ago LH-Cargo's RTW-flight used to stop in LHE, if I remember correctly.

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 123):
I would think the A332 would be better for this route

Except, they no longer have that plane.

Quoting LHBSL (Reply 118):



Quoting Bolu340 (Reply 120):

Well, I shall trust you

Any more surprises?? You can trust us  yes 
 
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:03 am

Quoting LH498 (Reply 125):

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 123):
I would think the A332 would be better for this route

Except, they no longer have that plane.

...my bad..I meant A330-300.. crazy 
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:11 am

off topic:
Does anyone weather LH is planning on flying to WDH? Thought it was a little strange that they don't servce Nambia at all yet there is a relativly big german speaking minority in the country.
 
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:50 am

Quoting Qazar (Reply 12):
Seattle would surprise me.... They already fly to Portland and Vancouver and Seattle seems too close a market to both these destinations - especially Vancouver. I'd say we'd me more likely to see LH fly a second daily rotation from MUC to Vancouver or even Portland before they consider Seattle. Besides, Seattle is presently served by Star alliance partner SAS. I presume SAS wouldn't be very happy if LH became a competition on the route.

As SAS and LH have full anti trust immunity, I am certain that LH would discuss the route with SAS before entering the market. The SAS flight to Copenhagen has an 85+% load factor year round and well over 100% in the summer. Also, since they have the late flight (7pm departure), if LH departs early afternoon, it gives more choices for Star Alliance passengers to use either carrier to their European gateway, then beyond. In fact, I believe revenue sharing is part of the agreement between the two carriers. If LH were to start flying, I am sure that SK would receive some revenue sharing based on the reciprocal code sharing that would occur.

From a competitive perspective, Star Alliance is in trouble here. With AF's entrance into the market, SkyTeam has the upper hand right now in terms of SEA's international flying (NW-AMS, NW-NRT, AF-CDG, KE-SEL, AM-MEX starting July 4, all nonstop), and with AS's strategic relationship with both DL/CO/NW and a new agreement with AF, AS feeds their flights very well at Seattle. In fact, even BA benefits from AS's marketing agreement with AA. The addition of LH here would strengthen UAs domestic position, which has been getting continually weaker as AS has expanded eastward with their own service and reciprocal code sharing on flights operated by CO, DL, NW and AA...ouch!

With the Olympics coming in 2010, Seattle will be a very significant alternative to Vancouver. Someone on this thread mentioned the border crossing being miserable (I have done it twice in the past two months and it frankly sucks at peak times (up to 2 hour waits)...although on the Canadian side, they are building a new facility which will double the capacity of vehicle processing at the border and the US FIS facility is only using half its existing resources. There is an additional crossing 1 mile east, the "Pacific Border Crossing" which has a very large US FIS facility (we crossed back from Canada on Memorial Day...the wait was five minutes) and the Canadians are expanding their facility there as well.

After the rush of the 2010 Olympics, it will be far easier to cross between Canada and the US, which makes Seattle a very viable alternative to Vancouver (not that Vancouver isn't attractive). The fares both to Asia and Europe are lower here than ex YVR (even on AC), so if you add the Canadian traffic to the mix, Seattle becomes an even larger potential market...very underserved compared to YVR (especially to Asia).

As to the future, I am confident additional carriers will come to Seattle, not just LH. Who knows, BA has total exclusivity on the LHR route right now and with the new open skies agreement, it is a perfect add on market for VS...especially given Virgin America's anticipated August start up. The Port of Seattle has been doing a full court press to get carriers to come here, especially with the 2010 Olympics just around the corner. The third runway will be finished by then (I hope).

With all of Boeing's Commercial operation here in Seattle and their backlog of orders for airplanes, carriers will be sending their crews and support personnel here for some time to come...to pick up their airplanes. That traffic alone gives reason to believe that there is a lot of room for growth here. For us locals, growth means choice, choice means more nonstop service and we here in the northwest are very finicky about wanting international nonstop service. So LH, bring it on. You will be most welcome.

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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:52 am

Quoting Johnnybgoode (Reply 91):
this list lacks additional services to YYC. i think this could be under consideration.

AC is operating it for Lufthansa.
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:57 am

Orlando International Airport officials are about to hold a 2 PM(EST) News Conference to announce the new service. It's about to be "officially official".

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/bus...ation/2007/06/new-internation.html
 
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Fri Jun 29, 2007 3:06 am

Quoting LH498 (Reply 125):
Good to see LH back in Pakistan, when was the last time they flew there?
Not so long ago LH-Cargo's RTW-flight used to stop in LHE, if I remember correctly.

LHE is still served by LH Cargo, Passenger services ended in October 1998.

Quoting LH506 (Reply 124):
Well they are flying their AB6 to Almaty and Astana. How much longer is FRA-KHI or Lahore-FRA???

And flights will rarely be full especially in J class so no problem using A300 there, someone has said Pakistan starts from 10 October.
 
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Fri Jun 29, 2007 3:25 am

Quoting BAW716 (Reply 128):
As to the future, I am confident additional carriers will come to Seattle, not just LH. Who knows, BA has total exclusivity on the LHR route right now and with the new open skies agreement, it is a perfect add on market for VS...especially given Virgin America's anticipated August start up. The Port of Seattle has been doing a full court press to get carriers to come here, especially with the 2010 Olympics just around the corner. The third runway will be finished by then (I hope).

When VS bought their 787-9s, they listed SEA as a potential destination with the new aircraft. I believe BMI has also shown interest in flying to SEA.
 
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Fri Jun 29, 2007 3:44 am

Would be great to see Sea -munich to compliment PDX-FRA service..........Wow With all of these international airlines interesting in Seattle they might have to expand their international terminal........
 
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Fri Jun 29, 2007 3:53 am

Here's the link to MCO's webpage...It's official 5X/week to FRA. Service starts this Fall although no date is listed yet. Congrats to Orlando for securing this new service!

http://www.orlandoairports.net/main.htm
 
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:01 am

Quoting Rookinla (Reply 134):
Service starts this Fall although no date is listed yet

Correction: Starts October 30...
 
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:47 am

First post on Airliners.net!

When is Lufthansa going to return to PHX? I've read two articles as recently as two weeks ago and as long ago as November 2005 that a return was imminent. Here's the link to the older article:

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...ness/articles/1111lufthansa11.html

The more recent article has already been quoted on another thread and related to the Mayor of Phoenix's comments about Lufthansa's return.

I don't understand why LH would select MCO if it is just a leisure market. Surely PHX is less of a leisure market than MCO. Supposedly this is why the service to PHX failed.

Thoughts?
 
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:10 am

Quoting ProPHX (Reply 136):
I don't understand why LH would select MCO if it is just a leisure market. Surely PHX is less of a leisure market than MCO. Supposedly this is why the service to PHX failed.

Less so than MCO maybe, but it is still a leisure market. Hence why PHX lacks many international airlines.
 
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:13 pm

Quoting EVA777SEA (Reply 137):
Less so than MCO maybe, but it is still a leisure market. Hence why PHX lacks many international airlines.

True, just look at how UA serves PHX...most of the flights are operated by TED, which is a low-yield product. CEO of USAirways stated at an airports conference in Tucson that both PHX and LAS are more leisure-focused hubs than most other hubs in the US.
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:10 pm

Quoting DCAYOW (Reply 138):
True, just look at how UA serves PHX...most of the flights are operated by TED, which is a low-yield product.

UA primarily serves MCO with TED. And isn't Denver mostly a leisure market as well? So, I still don't understand why a flight to MCO works for LH but PHX does not.
 
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:33 pm

Quoting ProPHX (Reply 139):
And isn't Denver mostly a leisure market as well?

DEN is a very major hub for one of the World's largest airlines. This creates a lot of connecting passengers to make the route work for LH.

Quoting ProPHX (Reply 139):
So, I still don't understand why a flight to MCO works for LH but PHX does not.

First, LH tried PHX and it didn't work for them. If a route is profitable LH will keep the station open. That isn't to say that they may not try again...they very well might. As for MCO...it is a completely different situation from PHX. LH has been looking at MCO for about 4 years now. They decided to make the move because Siemens has a substantial operation in Orlando. Siemens guaranteed LH an specific number of presold Business Class seats to start the route. And another thing about MCO. Transatlantic fares are not that cheap from MCO right now. I don't think that LH will have any trouble making money at MCO.
 
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:33 pm

Yep, it is loaded in the CRS:

LH 464 FRA-MCO 14:05-19:30 333
LH 465 MCO-FRA 21:25-11:20 333

Congratulations Orlando!
 
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:49 pm

Quoting LHBSL (Thread starter):
They decided to make the move because Siemens has a substantial operation in Orlando. Siemens guaranteed LH an specific number of presold Business Class seats to start the route.

If that is one of the main reasons then LH would have routed the flight MUC-MCO, because Siemens HQ is in Munich. I heard the same thing about BMW pushing LH when they opened MUC-CLT, but then again just a rumour.
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:32 pm

Quoting LHBSL (Thread starter):
Does anyone weather LH is planning on flying to WDH? Thought it was a little strange that they don't servce Nambia at all yet there is a relativly big german speaking minority in the country.

They used to serve WDH in the past (90s?). I think it was a combination with Jo'burg or Harare. But then I guess even though there ia a strong German community in WDH, probably not enough high yielding pax for LH to start flights again.
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:42 am

Minnesota could definitely use MSP-FRA (could MSP-MUC even work?). Businesses have been pushing for more international growth. Isn't there an incentive for international carriers that start service at MSP? I have a feeling NW would do something if LH started service at MSP.
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Sat Jun 30, 2007 5:42 am

Quoting LH506 (Reply 142):
If that is one of the main reasons then LH would have routed the flight MUC-MCO, because Siemens HQ is in Munich.

That IS one of the main reasons. Siemens has set up a ticket purchasing plan with LH. They will now be sending their employees C-Class MCO-FRA and will no longer be using CLT-MUC. This is straight from the mouth of Siemens' Orlando GM. They can connect FRA-MUC. According to him, this will save the company time and increase productivity. LH had been studying MCO-MUC for about four years now but decided on FRA because of Worldwide connections. The flight to FRA is timed in a bank to make connections to about 60 worldwide destinations. LH will get their share of MCO travelers that are traveling past FRA...
 
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:22 am

Quoting Adicool (Reply 113):
I read something about a FRA-CCS-BOG service on a daily basis...haven't heard anything about LIM yet. Does anyone know anything about a potential service to UIO?

Would be great if LH cma eback to UIO atleast via BOG with A346 or 747. too bad, last we saw was A342 o 343. Long ago. Damn.
 
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:24 am

SO I hope that CLT can live without the Siemens pax. Can They?
 
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:31 am

Well, with US cutting PIT flights down to 127 next month, I guess LH will not be touching down... yet... or ever...

I give it about 10 years tho...  optimist 
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RE: LH New North Atlantic Destinations

Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:36 pm

Quoting JoFMO (Reply 147):
SO I hope that CLT can live without the Siemens pax. Can They?

yes they can.... there are many many german companys in the carolinas, specially BMW came in my mind...
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