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B6ramprat
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Jetblue BUF-FLL Service

Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:45 am

Service will start November 1st and the equipment will be on the E190. There will be be daily service on this route. I wish there was more, god knows we have to many transfers from BUF going into JFK but who knows maybe they'll more.

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RE: Jetblue BUF-FLL Service

Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:21 am

This is interesting. JetBlue really loves BUF.
 
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RE: Jetblue BUF-FLL Service

Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:22 am

It makes sense. Isn't jetBlue's flagship route (Flight 1) BUF-JFK-FLL? The traffic is definitely there for a 1x daily. I'd be surprised if this didn't increase to 2x or more relatively quickly. I think loyal B6 fliers would pay a premium from BUF to avoid JFK, so hopefully, yields will be tolerable during the promo period.

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RE: Jetblue BUF-FLL Service

Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:23 am

Quoting B6ramprat (Thread starter):
Service will start November 1st and the equipment will be on the E190. There will be be daily service on this route. I wish there was more, god knows we have to many transfers from BUF going into JFK but who knows maybe they'll more.

B6ramprat

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RE: Jetblue BUF-FLL Service

Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:32 am

jetBlue announces new nonstop service from Buffalo to Ft. Lauderdale:

http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/070627/122057.html

Many congrats to BUF. This venture should be quite successful.
 
B6ramprat
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RE: Jetblue BUF-FLL Service

Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:35 am

Quoting FlyCMH (Reply 4):
jetBlue announces new nonstop service from Buffalo to Ft. Lauderdale:

http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/070627/122057.html

Many congrats to BUF. This venture should be quite successful.

It was public before I posted.
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thirteenright
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RE: Jetblue BUF-FLL Service

Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:54 am

Quoting B6ramprat (Reply 5):
It was public before I posted.

Oh okay, its just you didnt post your source.
 
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RE: Jetblue BUF-FLL Service

Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:09 am

Good for Buffalo! ROC-FLL may be a good potential route. FL ran it for several winters with a 118-seat 717, and this past winter ran it Saturday-only. Given the lower number of seats in an EMB-190, JetBlue may have an easier time getting the right load-yield mix. And no doubt travelers would welcome not having to go through JFK.

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desertjets
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RE: Jetblue BUF-FLL Service

Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:30 am

If JetBlue changes its expansion strategy towards more dot connecting vs. new stations routes like BUF-FLL are inevitable. Thus far SYR-MCO has been successful, so I am not surprised that there is another upstate NY to FL flight in the works for B6. It seems that any expansion would be limited by space at both ends though.
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YULYMX
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RE: Jetblue BUF-FLL Service

Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:37 am

That will draw plenty of Toronto people on that fly... Burlington-FLL would bring a lot of Montréal people...

i thought that Jetblue would do YYZ-FLL and Yul-FLL in a near futur... i was mistaken
 
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RE: Jetblue BUF-FLL Service

Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:52 am

Quoting DCA-ROCguy (Reply 7):
Given the lower number of seats in an EMB-190, JetBlue may have an easier time getting the right load-yield mix.

Now if only B6 would bring a -190 to ROC. They could surely fill it daily ROC-FLL . FL does daily ROC-MCO and TPA.
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RE: Jetblue BUF-FLL Service

Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:15 am

So that service starts November 1st. They are still receiving a lot of planes between now and then.

They also have not updated their route map, which makes me think there will be more announcements in the coming days.

I will be flying Buf-FLL for sure next year, on my way to my condo from Toronto.. Excellent news!

Cheers
 
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RE: Jetblue BUF-FLL Service

Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:17 am

FL does daily FLL-ROC too, but winter only.
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zrb2
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RE: Jetblue BUF-FLL Service

Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:31 am

According to the Buffalo Business First newspaper...Southwest will also be adding a second nonstop flight to Tampa on November 4th. With the Jetblue news this is great for BUF. Two more non-stoppers to Florida. BUF was projected to see 6 million passengers by 2020. They already hit 5 million in 2006. With the help of more Canadians, they will hit 6 mil much sooner than expected.
 
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RE: Jetblue BUF-FLL Service

Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:20 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 12):
FL does daily FLL-ROC too, but winter only.

IIRC,it was downgraded to Sat. only.
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RE: Jetblue BUF-FLL Service

Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:22 am

It was Saturday only for the later part of last years winter timetable but is daily again next year for the entire winter timetable.
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RE: Jetblue BUF-FLL Service

Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:55 am

BUF-FLL should perform very, very well for B6.

Note how BUF-FLL is on an E190 while SYR-MCO is on an A320. What's the difference between the markets?

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thirteenright
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RE: Jetblue BUF-FLL Service

Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:06 am

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 16):
BUF-FLL should perform very, very well for B6.

Note how BUF-FLL is on an E190 while SYR-MCO is on an A320. What's the difference between the markets?

JetBluefan1

I think its partially due to simple aircraft routing. I'm assuming the BUF-FLL-BUF aircraft is an E190 that had just come from BOS where as the SYR-MCO-SYR turn happens to be an A320 that just operated JFK-SYR.
 
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RE: Jetblue BUF-FLL Service

Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:24 am

Quoting YULYMX (Reply 9):
That will draw plenty of Toronto people on that fly... Burlington-FLL would bring a lot of Montréal people...

i thought that Jetblue would do YYZ-FLL and Yul-FLL in a near futur... i was mistaken

I wouldn't expect much of the Toronto area to fall in the BUF catchment area, as it's about 100 mi/160 km from Toronto to Buffalo (similar Montréal to Burlington). How are border crossing times to the US these days? This would seem to be a potentially troublesome wildcard.

The fare difference would have to be pretty large at least to get me to drive 100 miles to an alternate airport, and that's even without an international border in the way, especially since YYZ and YUL have good service.

I too expect B6 to eventually fly to both cities, but I'm not sure BUF will pick off a lot of YYZ traffic for them in the interim.
 
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RE: Jetblue BUF-FLL Service

Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:17 am

Quoting PHLwok (Reply 18):
I wouldn't expect much of the Toronto area to fall in the BUF catchment area, as it's about 100 mi/160 km from Toronto to Buffalo (similar Montréal to Burlington). How are border crossing times to the US these days? This would seem to be a potentially troublesome wildcard.

The fare difference would have to be pretty large at least to get me to drive 100 miles to an alternate airport, and that's even without an international border in the way, especially since YYZ and YUL have good service.

There are 3 bridges from Southern Ontario into Western New York (Peace Br, Rainbow Br and Lewiston). If you time it right the border crossings really aren't bad, especially up at Lewiston NY. I've seen estimates lately that the pax numbers at BUF are 25-29% Canadian flyers. I can attest to that in some ways because I've sat next to many people from Canada when I fly in on Southwest. I also know there are many many people from Southern Ontario that use the Park and Fly options at airport hotels near BUF. They sleep overnight and leave their cars in the hotel lot for free. It may not be cost effective for a long weekend trip but when families go away on holiday for a week or more and can save $125-$150 per ticket, then it's worth it to cross the border.
 
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RE: Jetblue BUF-FLL Service

Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:05 pm

Quoting ThirteenRight (Reply 17):
SYR-MCO-SYR turn happens to be an A320 that just operated JFK-SYR.

For the non-winter timetable, the aircraft comes from MCO, turns in SYR, and arrives back in MCO around 7pm, presumably to operate a flight north, or to Puerto Rico later at night.
 
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RE: Jetblue BUF-FLL Service

Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:33 pm

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 16):
What's the difference between the markets?

As far as low cost carriers go, JetBlue is the only game in town. Whereas BUF has WN as well. Though Buffalo's MSA is considerably bigger than Syracuse's (1.25 mil vs. 700k). Not to mention the previously mentioned aircraft rotation issues... the current SYR-MCO flight originates from JFK.
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