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Manchester UK News 12

Fri Jun 29, 2007 5:17 am

Time for a new thread and some new route news:

GB Airways will operate to Innsbruck next winter, aswell as Salzburg, Tenerife, Paphos and the Malta service will also continue through the winter 07/08 season.

Good news!
 
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Fri Jun 29, 2007 5:47 am

I know MLA is 3 weekly but was disappointed about SZG - the blurb says weekly so that means a loss of 4 services a week by them. Got no idea on the INN frequency yet; no doubt TOM or LS will decide to go there as well
 
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:30 pm

Last year there was alot of overcapacity to SZG - I noted a number of occasions when the GB A320 would turn-up from MAN with pax figures of 20-30. Ryanair however seemed to have no problem shifting lots of pax from LPL & EMA.
 
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:04 am

Quoting David_itl (Reply 1):
Got no idea on the INN frequency yet; no doubt TOM or LS will decide to go there as well

Currently TUIFly are the only LoCo at INN, with a Cologne service. SkyEurope have operated from their in the past and will start a new INN-VIE service soon. As well as MAN-INN, LON-INN is also a prime candidate for a LoCo service

[Edited 2007-06-29 20:12:05]
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:23 am

BE to start MAN to INV services from March 08.
 
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:03 am

Cant go more than 10 feet at MAN without bumping into a police officer due to the terrorist attack in GLA!
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:08 am

Jett8's inauguaral service landed about 10 minutes ago. The LPL closure has seen a TOM 757 arrive, 1 EZY on the ground and another one due in about 10 minutes.
 
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:13 am

Quoting Cainanuk (Reply 5):
Cant go more than 10 feet at MAN without bumping into a police officer due to the terrorist attack in GLA!

Can't get a car or a bus to the terminals either, which means walking from the staff car park and taxi wars at the station!
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:53 am

SV appear to be doing well on their new service, averaging around 140 pax on outbound flights, around 50 on inbounds but can only grow. I tip this service to do very well, and SV have already intonated they want to go daily as soon as they can.

Whispers are still going around about EI setting up new base at MAN. I hear some cabin crew have been asked about their interest in basing themselves at MAN.... So say it happens, what routes would we be looking at? My guess FCO, MAD, MXP, WAW, BCN, LCA, ATH?
 
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:30 am

Quoting Speedbird19 (Reply 7):
Can't get a car or a bus to the terminals either, which means walking from the staff car park and taxi wars at the station!

Was the staff bus not running?

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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:15 pm

It's running but only to the station, the drivers keep making announcements on their PA's sayin they only stop at the station now, everywhere's blocked off terminal arrivals/departures wise by armed police.
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:22 pm

Was there yesterday, very odd not seeing cars and taxis outside T3. Roads to the drop off/pick up for T1 have been closed and there were police everywhere.

Nice to see SV are doing good. Hope to go and see a plane come in soon, be nice to see someone new at MAN
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:54 am

Noticed that the Peel Holdings (owners of BTN, LPL and DSA) chairman has said MAN should be sold, with about £3b being raised to fund public transport. And., funnily enough, he's insisted this idea has nothing whatsover do with them owing the previously cited airports.
 
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:49 am

Quoting David_itl (Reply 12):
And., funnily enough, he's insisted this idea has nothing whatsover do with them owing the previously cited airports.

It has quite a lot to do with Peel owning The Trafford Centre, which is inconveniently a hundred yards just inside the proposed outer charging zone. (as I'm sure you know) I think John Wittaker's absolutely right in his objections to the C-charge.

I do not believe for a minute that it's possible to levy a pretty arbitrary tax on one small selected geographical area, and then expect that area to experience the same amount of economic growth/job creation as surrounding boroughs and other cities. It's a very typically British response in so far as there's no political will to sort out the national problem of road congestion and bad public transport provision, so instead, "we'll try a badly thought out quick fix for one area and then examine later how much damage we've done before we try to change it, again......"

Double my car tax and put a penny on a litre of fuel, and then give me usable public transport everywhere. I don't care.

I wouldn't be averse to the sale of Manchester Airport, as long as a way could be found to make its new board of directors accountable in some way to Manchester, Salford, Trafford etc. (i.e. me!)
 
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:52 am

Quoting David_itl (Reply 12):
Noticed that the Peel Holdings (owners of BTN, LPL and DSA) chairman has said MAN should be sold, with about £3b being raised to fund public transport. And., funnily enough, he's insisted this idea has nothing whatsover do with them owing the previously cited airports.

Peel have been very vocal against the Manchester congestion charge - even adding a section to the DSA website about it. Sounds to me like they think selling MAN (and with it BOH, EMA and HUY as well I guess), will avoid the need for the congestion charge in order to fund public transport investment in Manchester. And I can see it being a popular idea with motorists

Though I agree that there is more to this than the congestion charge - however Peel should be careful - what if MAN (and HUY/EMA) got sold to new owners who started attracting flights/airlines from LPL and DSA. Would be wishing they never said anything then
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:56 am

I was very surprised to find out how relatively bad the connections between FRA and MAN are - the BE flight (also flying with BA flightnumbers) have truly miserable times if you're flying over from FRA... first out at 11:00, last flight back at 16:00.

And LH only has the first flight over at 8, and the last one already at 18:15...

... and connecting through LHR (or anything else) isn't even worth mentioning...

I'm flying over next week for two days of meetings, but if we hadn't moved back the beginning of the meeting on the first day, I'd have had to fly over the day before.

Didn't BA fly MAN-FRA with better timings for a long time?
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Wed Jul 04, 2007 5:42 am

I think BA used to overnight a MAN crew in DUS and FRA for a time to take advantage of the early morning traffic to MAN, That was also in the days of using it as a way of cashing in on QF and CX pax through FRA too.
 
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:07 pm

What's the security level at Manchester right now? I will be travelling to MAN for the first time this coming weekend and was hoping to do some spotting at the Viewing Park. Is it still open or is the entrance closed now?
 
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:41 pm

Sawasdee Levent,

I will be arriving also on Sunday, so am interested also. I believe it will be difficult to pick up/drop off, is it still easy to get to the rentals? How long will you be in MAN for, as I am headed your way (BKK, not Pattaya unfortunately)

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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:03 pm

Quoting Levent (Reply 17):
I will be travelling to MAN for the first time this coming weekend and was hoping to do some spotting at the Viewing Park. Is it still open or is the entrance closed now?

The Aviation Viewing Park is open for business as usual.
 
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:39 pm

Quoting Col (Reply 18):
will be arriving also on Sunday, so am interested also. I believe it will be difficult to pick up/drop off, is it still easy to get to the rentals? How long will you be in MAN for, as I am headed your way (BKK, not Pattaya unfortunately)

Passengers may only be picked up/dropped off at The Station. No vehicle is allowed near any terminal, arrivals/departures wise. You should be fine getting to car rentals though!
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:16 pm

Quoting Leskova (Reply 15):
And LH only has the first flight over at 8, and the last one already at 18:15...

This is because the last flight of the day overnights (also the MUC flight) so the early MAN-FRA and late FRA-MAN timings are great which is great for people like me who live in Germany.

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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Wed Jul 04, 2007 9:14 pm

Quoting Leskova (Reply 15):
Didn't BA fly MAN-FRA with better timings for a long time?

They did, but as BA Connect, which was sold to FlyMaybe late last year. Ba no longer serve MAN except from LHR and LGW, and under the guise of GB Airways to the sunny places.

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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Wed Jul 04, 2007 9:23 pm

Quoting Speedbird19 (Reply 20):
Passengers may only be picked up/dropped off at The Station. No vehicle is allowed near any terminal, arrivals/departures wise. You should be fine getting to car rentals though!

Thanks Speedbird19.

Col
 
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:10 pm

Quoting 7LBAC111 (Reply 22):

They did, but as BA Connect, which was sold to FlyMaybe late last year. Ba no longer serve MAN except from LHR and LGW, and under the guise of GB Airways to the sunny places.

Nor forgetting New York and Billund, that centre of international corporate finance!
 
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:17 am

Hi, Me and former a.netter Brad (bradwray) flew out to Dublin today. At approx 6am... An Incident alarm went off in Terminal 1. We were escorted towards an emergency exit... then told to GO BACK into the terminal and out of another exit. We were waiting outside for quite a while then we were put into Gate 20 Bussing lounge. Rumours were that a 'suspicious package' was found. Doesn't seem to have filtered through to the news channels. Have got pics, videos and voice recordings I will put on later. Just thought you might all like to know.
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:50 am

Vehicles are allowed near the terminals (as of today) but they must stop in the short stay car park in order to pick up or drop off passengers - the first 15 mins are free of charge.

There was a security alert at T1 this morning but when I arrived at work at 9am at the info desk at arrivals the CSAs didn't mention that there really was a package or anything similar.

T2 I heard was also evacuated; fire crews were near the A/C stands.
 
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:12 am

Jet2 are to base 11 aircraft at MAN, increasing from a current 9. New routes to be announced very shortly. What are we hoping for? Business or pleasure destinations?
 
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:50 am

July 3rd - Man dies on MYT flight.

I'm not sure of the origin or type but I was at ADX @ T1 when it happened - he collapsed apparently when the aircraft was on finals for Manchester and was moved to the galleys where he was thought to have gone in to cardiac arrest. The cabin crew did all they could with the difribulators and such but he died, unfortunately.

The passengers disembarked and the police came - he couldn't be moved until the police gave the go-ahead.
The cabin crew met after the flight so that they could discuss and be assesed on the way it was all handled.
Fortunately, this seems to be a fairly rare occurance and at least the man had his holiday!

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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:18 am

GSM have announced they are to scrap LPL JFK flights from end of October.
 
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:23 am

Quoting Bh4007 (Reply 28):
Man dies on MYT flight

Id prefer to die on a plane, as would many a netters i guess.

When i was working at LBA, an AEU 757 bound for Rhodes taxied out to 14 then back in, we thought it had gone tech but a guy had a heart attack. Sadly he died on the ramp next to the aircraft, but his wife decided to leave him and carry on with her holiday!!!

Still sad all the same.
 
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:45 pm

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 29):
GSM have announced they are to scrap LPL JFK flights from end of October.

Hahaha!

I'm sorry but I've been watching this airline closely since they started long-haul ops and am just happy that something has cracked because of the chaos they have caused to themselves! Looks like BA, DL and CO will be picking up NYC bookings then from folks who would've gone from LPL then.
 
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:27 pm

Are TON to also announce scheduled services to ATH and IST?
 
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:24 am

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 32):
Are TON to also announce scheduled services to ATH and IST?

U mean TOM? I´m sure i heard that announced months ago...
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:17 am

Anybody else notice the MAN logo change?



I like it! Big grin
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:36 am

It appeared on the Flex Branding last week sometime but look really bad.
 
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:21 am

Will we se any new services at all this winter at MAN?!

Looks like KRK is going, no seats on sale with NE.
 
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:39 am

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 36):
Looks like KRK is going, no seats on sale with NE.

There has been rumours of NE pulling out of Krakow completely
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:16 pm

From today's M.E.N.:

Campaigners celebrate airport victory

10/ 7/2007


CAMPAIGNERS are celebrating after a government planning inspector rejected plans to build a large car park on land next to Manchester Airport.

It would have had space for 1,500 vehicles at Moss Lane, near Styal.

But a planning inspector has now backed Macclesfield Council's decision to turn down the proposals. Planning chiefs said the scheme would have a detrimental impact on the Green Belt.

The move is being seen as a victory for groups concerned about airport expansion and carbon emissions.

Jeff Gazzard, of the Aviation Environment Federation, said: "The airport is so used to getting its own way with planning decisions that this will come as a shock to the system. The airport says it is trying to get passengers and staff to use public transport but it is trying to increase its car parks at the same, which is contradictory."

Airport bosses submitted the plans for a new car park and landscape works in 2005.

Their proposal was for a 24-hour car park for 1,500 vehicles with lighting and bus shelters at a site on Moss Lane. Drivers would have got into the car park through a new junction on Styal Road. Residents, community groups and councillors objected to the proposals, which they said would increase traffic and pollution.

They also said the scheme would have a negative impact on the area and the countryside.

Andy Cliffe, of Manchester Airport said he was "very disappointed" by the decision.
 
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:31 pm

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 38):

Sounds as though it would have been a great place for spotting too! This must have been proposed to replace the car parks they will lose when they extend the apron. Stupid protesters  mad 
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:42 am

Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 39):
Stupid protesters

Not necessarily. Sure, if car parks are to be lost they will need to be replaced and MAN is trying to increase the % of pax using public transport by increasing rail capacity at the station and by pressing for Metrolink at the same time. However any new major car park needs to be built in a sensible location. For starters the plan was to build on green belt land, and whilst I'm no tree-hugger, I do think that the principle of having and protecting a green belt to be an important one. Secondly, the junction between RIngway Road and Styal Road cannot cope with the existing traffic, especially at peak times or when there is a problem on the M56. A simple look at Google Earth will show unused land close to the airport terminals that could be used. Such as between the M56 spur and the edge of Wythenshawe. Another area would be to the North of Ringway Road close to it's junction with Styal Road, however it would be a good idea to widen Ringway Road from the M56 spur to the car park entrance. The land here is of limited use due to the low level of aircraft on approach to 23R. Both areas that I have suggested are currently hemmed in by development whilst MAN's proposal was to build on open land which stretches out into Cheshire.

You may agree with my thoughts or you may want to shoot me, but hopefully my post will lead to some constructive comment!
 
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:51 am

A bit off topic I know, but you all describe the raised security at MAN. Any idea if it's the same at EMA, as I am flying from there in two weeks, and wondered if I need to go a bit earlier.


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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:57 pm

Not suprised really!

Several years ago land on the corner of Finney Lane and Styal Road was purchased and turned into a car park complete with Hi tech security. Since its completion at a guess over 3 years ago the car park is manned day and night and lit extensivley every night! Despite this it has never to this date had a single Car parked on it!

While the Car Park does not apear to be owned by the MAPLC what is its purpose? Other than draining the national grid every night!

Is it any suprise then that a further planning application has been turned down!
 
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:44 am

Just been reading on pprune that AA's BOS-MAN will now end in October iso November and may not be returning at all next summer.
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:14 am

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 43):
Just been reading on pprune that AA's BOS-MAN will now end in October iso November and may not be returning at all next summer.

Flyglobespan

Having said that, I've known plenty of facts on pprune that turn out to be fiction.
 
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:18 am

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 43):
Just been reading on pprune that AA's BOS-MAN will now end in October iso November and may not be returning at all next summer

I have just searched on aa.com for MAN-BOS flights next June and all it came up with was via LHR or via ORD.
 
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:15 am

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 8):
SV appear to be doing well on their new service,

Just to back up what's happeningl the 1st 3 services saw a total of 562 passengers (plus an additional 26 for that appear on the Geneva numbers?!) according to the provisional CAA stats for June. Not even going to contemplate breaking down the transatlantic routes but here's a selection of the runners and riders:

QR increase = 38% (15000 pax), EK increase 26% (36000 pax) & EY 6% increase (8500 pax).

Pakistan routes are down 200 passengers (but ISB saw 500 passenger increase!).

Too many routes showing a decrease but a large increase on CDG (up 3000 passengers overall with scheduled passengers up 4000) which I take to be as a direct result of AMS dropping 6000 passengers!. BUD also appears to be doing well (up 71% - don't know how many extra flights operated this year compared to last year). JP looks to be doing well but its an average of 2 passengers down per service (117 a flight).
 
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:56 am

BOS is very profitable for AA, so would be surprised to see it go. GSM would be the obvious replacement, and with the LPL route doing so badly, it could be a nice little earner and redeemer for them!

I don't think another US carrier would take it on.

Other news, look out for some new routes from LS and TOM in the coming routes, as well as a couple of new carriers announcing, once the slots have all been sorted.
 
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:39 am

Whatever happened to the easyjet NCL-MAN rumour?  duck 
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RE: Manchester UK News 12

Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:36 pm

Why is MH flying MAN-Seoul tomorrow?
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