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Abandoned Airports With Aircraft Still There.

Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:15 am

Playing with Google Earth and looking at derelict airports / airfields.

Does anybody know of any where there are aircraft still parked? I thought there was a abandoned Trident at Nicosia, but there is no sign of it on Google Earth.

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Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:24 am

We got a couple of abandoned drug strips with crashed aircraft down here Big grin
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Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:25 am

That is very odd... Last year in Cyprus I was told that it WAS still there... and the google earth images are more than a year old!
 
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Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:29 am

Just taken a look on google maps. Around half the airport is blurry and cannot be zoomed into at a high magnification - my guess is that the Trident is in that part of the airport.
 
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Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:32 am

Quoting Vasu (Reply 2):
That is very odd... Last year in Cyprus I was told that it WAS still there... and the google earth images are more than a year old!

In all fairness, the North Western area of the image is very low resolution and is tricky to see.






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Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:58 am

Quoting Cumulus (Thread starter):
Does anybody know of any where there are aircraft still parked?



Quoting Vasu (Reply 3):
Around half the airport is blurry and cannot be zoomed into at a high magnification - my guess is that the Trident is in that part of the airport.

That's what I think too. Have a look at the picture linked here. Seems to be taken from nearby the terminal.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fc/Nic-2.jpg

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Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:02 am

This one must have been taken very shortly before it was destroyed!! A matter of weeks even......


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Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:45 am

Quoting Vasu (Reply 3):
Just taken a look on google maps. Around half the airport is blurry and cannot be zoomed into at a high magnification - my guess is that the Trident is in that part of the airport.

Found the following phtos of Nicosia airport and the abandoned CY Trident. I think the photos are fairly recent.
http://www.pbase.com/alexis/nic
 
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Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:05 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 7):

Thanks for the link. It's interesting to have an inside look to that historical airport. I believe that Image 155 is of this aircraft's remains: https://www.airliners.net/open.file/1159667/L/
 
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Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:19 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 7):

Thanks for those photos... very interesting!
 
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Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:31 am

Can anyone tell me why the airport was closed?


And why is this aircraft still there? Does the airline still exist? And if they still exist, why didn't they sell it? Even old airplanes can be parted out etc ...
 
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Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:49 am

Quoting CARST (Reply 10):

Turkish invasion of Cyprus in 1974.

The airport in question is now located in the "no-man's land" between "Cyprus" and the so-called "TRNC". The airline still exists, though its base is at Larnaca. The airline couldn't do anything with the aircraft because they had no physical access to it!
 
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Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:02 am

Oh thanks ...

Shortly after i posted my answer i thought to myself that the Turkish invasion could be the reason.


But i never heard of an airport in that "no-man's-land". Thx...



Back to topic:
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=...tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&encType=1

An old 707 from Lufthansa at Tegel Airport (EDDT / TXL). The airport is not abandoned, but the airplane is parked at a non-public place, because it is now used for police training (hostage scenarios etc.).
 
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Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:36 am

Quoting CARST (Reply 12):
An old 707 from Lufthansa at Tegel Airport (EDDT / TXL). The airport is not abandoned, but the airplane is parked at a non-public place, because it is now used for police training (hostage scenarios etc.).

Out of curiosity, is there also a 707 parked at HAM? I thought I saw one when I was there a few months back, but never got a great look at it.
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Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:01 pm

Wow... those pictures of the old Nicosia airport are really interesting. Some of them still show ads from 1974 up on the walls.

I had heard that when Jakarta's Kemayoran Airport closed in 1985, a number of propeller-driven aircraft were abandoned at the airport. But after scanning the site on Google Maps (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=jakarta,+indonesia&ie=UTF8&ll=-6.152801,106.851128&spn=0.018731,0.029182&t=k&z=15&om=1) it doesn't look like any of them are there anymore.
 
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Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:15 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 7):
Found the following phtos of Nicosia airport and the abandoned CY Trident. I think the photos are fairly recent.
http://www.pbase.com/alexis/nic

Amazing. Thank you for finding these.
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Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:38 pm

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Quoting N844AA (Reply 13):
Quoting CARST (Reply 12):
An old 707 from Lufthansa at Tegel Airport (EDDT / TXL). The airport is not abandoned, but the airplane is parked at a non-public place, because it is now used for police training (hostage scenarios etc.).

Out of curiosity, is there also a 707 parked at HAM? I thought I saw one when I was there a few months back, but never got a great look at it.

Yes the one at HAM is one of LH's first five 707's, all delivered in 1960. They were among the very few (only 37) 707s built with Rolls-Royce Conway engines. It's been in HAM since LH retired it from passenger service in 1975, although they kept it for ground training purposes for some years. Now owned by Hamburg airport.


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By the way, the 707 at TXL is ex-El Al, although I believe it has a fake LH registration D-ABOC which makes it appear to be another of LH's early 707-430s. Coincidentally, it's also a R-R Conway 707-458. LY was another of the rare customers for R-R-powered 707s (only their first 3).
 
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Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:16 pm

Quoting N844AA (Reply 15):
Found the following phtos of Nicosia airport and the abandoned CY Trident. I think the photos are fairly recent.
http://www.pbase.com/alexis/nic

That is spooky!!!
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Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:26 pm

Quoting Cumulus (Reply 17):
Quoting N844AA (Reply 15):
Found the following phtos of Nicosia airport and the abandoned CY Trident. I think the photos are fairly recent.
http://www.pbase.com/alexis/nic

That is spooky!!!

Reminds me of some pictures on one of my other favourite sites of abandonned underground stations in London http://underground-history.co.uk/downtour.php
 
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Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:45 pm

Does anyone know if it is posible to access Nicosia Airport freely or is it an "undercover" job?!!! Wouldn't mind a few pics of those two airframes.
 
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Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:45 pm

Goma got an DC-8 stuck there after the lava flow blocked the runway...
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Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:46 pm

Quoting Jiggles (Reply 19):

Me too...

I can imagine getting inside the no-mans land isn't too easy...!
 
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Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:32 am

Aren't there a few abadoned aircraft at the old ATH airport??
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Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:34 am

Bunch of old hulks of some very old aircraft on the north end of the old DEN site. You can see the scrapyard and what looks like a beech 18 carcass sitting on the side when you drive by it on I-70.
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Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:14 am

Greenville, Grenada and this AN-26:


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Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:21 am

OK... from where I am, there are 2 I know...
1. Part of an old plane at Jakarta's old Kemayoran Airport... Not sure if the pic shows the plane or not, I haven't been there lately so I can confirm whether the coordinates are of the aircraft or not.
6° 9'4.81"S 106°50'54.49"E

2. Two abandoned aircraft at disused Rumpin Airfield, near Jakarta
6°22'35.67"S 106°37'29.76"E

I haven't been to Rumpin yet... and there was another airstrip nearby called Pulau Panjang which has been reclaimed by the real estate... I was told they had a disused airplane.

3. There's a hanggar at this location:
6°14'27.46"S 106°48'29.68"E

The Aviation Technical High School... it has a DC3 (ex Garuda?) and what could be an AT-6 and one more plane (Jap WWII if my memory serves me right)...

I dunno the accuracy of this but I was told the DC3 was flown there and the others were trucked in. In the late 50s this area was still sparsely built and an airfield could have existed then.

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Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:34 am

I'm sure there are quite a few in Africa.

In South Africa, in the old apartheid "homeland" of Ciskei, is Bulembu International Airport (BIY).
(Link)
I think the local dictator purchased a 747, and it was standing there, abandoned for many years. Not sure if it still is. The airport is still there, and is technically "in use", although driving past, you find goats on the runway. I know there are some ridiculous plans to upgrade the airport, have no idea why. Maybe our South African posters can shed light on this.

In Mozambique, at Maputo aiport (MPM) there are stacks of bunkers with rusting military helicopters and planes in (Link). Kind of ethereal. Unfortunately the soldiers nearby hate it if you take pictures.
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Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:40 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 16):
Yes the one at HAM is one of LH's first five 707's, all delivered in 1960. They were among the very few (only 37) 707s built with Rolls-Royce Conway engines. It's been in HAM since LH retired it from passenger service in 1975, although they kept it for ground training purposes for some years. Now owned by Hamburg airport.

I appreciate the information. Thank you so much.

Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 18):
Reminds me of some pictures on one of my other favourite sites of abandonned underground stations in London http://underground-history.co.uk/dow...r.php

Great link, thanks! I found another site once with a list and pictures of abandoned UK railway stations, mostly from the years of the Beeching Axe. Most of them are long since gone, but in a few cases, there are eerie remnants even now, forty years later. This kind of stuff is always interesting to me.
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Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:52 am

I know that I have used Google Earth to do some research for my FH-227 website and I have actually found many derelict FH-227s at many airports across the globe.
What I found was:

*Lima, Peru FH-227 c/n FAP-395 derelict
*Buenos Aires Moron FH-227B c/n 568 LV-MGW derelict
*Algiers Algeria FH-227B c/n 544 7T-VVJ open storage
*Hermosillo, Mexico FH-227C s/n 506 XA-TIS open storage
*Merida, Mexico 3 FH-227's Around Aerocaribe Hangar
*Curacao, Neth. Antilles 2 FH-227Bs s/n 555 and 559 Ex-ALM PJ-FHA and FHB on Fire Dump
*Norwich England FH-227B s/n 519 EI-CAZ on Fire Dump
*Mehrabad Intl Terhan, Iran 2 FH-227Bs s/n 524 EP-SNA and s/n 503 Byamin Airways Open Storage
*Abidjan, Ivory Coast 2 FH-227Bs Possibly s/n 558 Air Inter Ivoire TU-TDC and another FH-227.
*OpaLocka Airport, Fl. FH-227B s/n 542 Atlantic Airlines HR-ASK Open Storage
*Belem, Brazil FH-227B Ex-TABA Possibly s/n 539 PT-LBG Rotting away next to an ex-TABA Bandit.

These were what I observed on Google Earth on 07 June 2007. Some of the airfields had some Fokker F.27s lying about so I had to be very careful to not confuse the two types but I am 100% sure of my findings.
At some point in the future I will add these images with an expanded view and an actual picture of the aircraft as it sits.
I know it sounds like I have too much time on my hands but I find it fascinating....

I am working on trying to see if I can identify any FH-227s on the Yangon, Myanmar airport...I need to contact a buddy of mine for that first.
I know that there is also an FH-227B, ex-Austro Aereo HC-BXC s/n 533 in Cuenca, Ecuador but the airfield is not photographed the detail resolution that the previous airfields are. So whenever Google Earth decides to fix that I will grab that as well...

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Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:10 am

Here's the old South Expressway airport in ATL. It's runway was torn out after it was shut down due to its proximity to ATL traffic. Several airplanes were abandoned there by owners who couldn't fly them out prior to condemnation, and the main building was acquired by an aviation technical school, while the runway has been turned into a road abutting a local prison build over the rest of the grounds. It was one of the last little public airports. Now there are still big ones, but the smaller ones in GA are generally private. You can still see part of the old apron and the rest of the runway and taxi way at the curve in the parking lot road.

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Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:46 am

Meigs Field had some A/C left there for a while after it was closed. They eventually took off from a taxiway, IIRC.
 
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Sat Jun 30, 2007 5:16 am

Quoting Cumulus (Thread starter):
Does anybody know of any where there are aircraft still parked?

Not exactly "still there," but Denver's Stapleton had an ex-Ports-of-Call Convair 990 sitting near the central-eastern side of the airport grounds, even after the airport closed...but was eventually broken up and hauled off. the fire/rescue units used it as a trainer.
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Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:10 am

Lowry AFB in Denver springs to mind...

They only left behind a B-52 and a B-1A when they closed that  Wink Thankfully, both of them are now preserved in the "Wings Over The Rockies" museum (in the middle of a business park...).
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Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:45 am

Doesn't the old Athens airport still have some parked Olympic 727s still there?
 
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Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:45 pm

Would someone explain what "Health Control" is at the derelict Nicosia??



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Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:39 am

That AN-26 at Pearls, Grenada, is an ex Cubana aircraft. It was abandoned there after the 1983 coup during which Prime Minister Maurice Bishop was killed and Bernard Coard took over. The US invaded a few days later. At that time Point Salines airport to the south was under construction so this smaller airfield was Grenada's main airport.

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Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:02 pm

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The day ORD closes. With the queue for takeoff and landing you will probably have planes there 5 days after the airport's official closing day.  Wink
 
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Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:04 pm

Quoting CygnusChicago (Reply 26):
think the local dictator purchased a 747

It was a CV990, and it was painted up as "Ciskei International Airways", but it never operated in revenue service - I think it couldn't get an airworthiness certificate from South Africa.
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Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:16 am

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 37):
It was a CV990, and it was painted up as "Ciskei International Airways", but it never operated in revenue service - I think it couldn't get an airworthiness certificate from South Africa.

Interesting - do you know what happened to it?
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Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:33 am

Quoting CygnusChicago (Reply 38):
Interesting - do you know what happened to it?

Not for certain, no, but I remember there was a thread on a.net a while back about buying the last airworthy CV990, and if I remember correctly the aircraft concerned was the ex-Ciskei International one - it was based in the US somewhere, it might have been in Texas. No doubt others will have more info.
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Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:38 am

Quoting CygnusChicago (Reply 38):
Interesting - do you know what happened to it?

Not for certain, no, but I remember there was a thread on a.net a while back about buying the last airworthy CV990, and if I remember correctly the aircraft concerned was the ex-Ciskei International one - it was based in the US somewhere, it might have been in Texas.

I found the thread...
CV990 For Sale- Last Chance? (by Sccutler Feb 7 2004 in Civil Aviation)

There's a photo of the aircraft, the titles are faded but still just about legible.
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Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:17 am

Quoting Cumulus (Reply 34):
Would someone explain what "Health Control" is at the derelict Nicosia??

In those days most countries had various vaccination requirements (smallpox, yellow fever, etc.) for passengers entering the country, depending on the country of origin or countries visited en route. You had a little booklet much like a passport indicating where/when you were last vaccinated and often had to show it on arrival. Some countries, including Cyprus obviously, had a separate counter for this purpose, apart from the usual immigration checkpoint.
 
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Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:30 pm

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 32):
Lowry AFB in Denver springs to mind...

They only left behind a B-52 and a B-1A when they closed that Thankfully, both of them are now preserved in the "Wings Over The Rockies" museum (in the middle of a business park...).

While Lowry AFB was closed completely in the 1988 base reduction, the runways there were closed about 25 years before. How did the B-1A get there? I moved to the Denver area in 1969 and Lowry's runways were closed then, and built over. While some of the runway remained, there were no active runways left.

On another note, when GSW closed after the opening of DFW and a near miss between an AA training flight and the Concorde, there were several DC-6's, and/or DC-4's parked at the terminal, and as I remember a Convair or two also, that were abandoned.

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