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Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:22 am

First noted on Flyertalk Forum and also appeared in the schedules, QANTAS will replace 3 of 7 weekly Melbourne - Auckland - Los Angeles B747-400 service with A330-200.

This results in reduction of capacity and additional 40-50 minutes flying time on Trans-pacific leg.

Also, from the same post at FT, 332 is to be operated on SYD-BOM route from 01FEB08, which will eliminate westbound tech stop in Darwin.
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:50 am

Why the obliteration of the premium capacity? Does QF not do well on AKL/LAX?
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:55 am

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 1):
Why the obliteration of the premium capacity? Does QF not do well on AKL/LAX?

QF tends to move all its MEL-LAX Frequentflyer points pax on the MEL-AKL-LAX flight and uses the flight for bulk bookings etc. This is also the quiet time of the year now where loads typically drop off considerably. So by moving FF pax back on the direct flight and with less pax QF can do this a few times a week.
Still its a pretty long flight for an A330!
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:58 am

Probably a good indication of where some of QF's first 787s will go!
 
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:16 am

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 2):
Still its a pretty long flight for an A330!

That's what I thought too! Nonetheless, it goes to show that A332 is a very capable aircraft. I would not mind flying QF LAX-AKL in an A332 at all.
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:29 am

Will these A332 be factory fresh aircraft?
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:27 am

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 1):
Does QF not do well on AKL/LAX?

They have operated that route for years, that is not an issue. I think this is more a way of reapportioning aircraft that were ill-suited to their earlier mission with the airline to one that makes more sense and also allowing them to redeploy high capacity, high revenue 744s to longer range and more heavily trafficked routes.

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 4):
it goes to show that A332 is a very capable aircraft.

Oh, the A332 is definitely capable as far as long haul goes. 6750nm range is nothing to sneeze at. The issues with the aircraft come from it doing short-haul, quick turn flights. The one thing is that it is significantly slower than the 744 on the route
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:13 am

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 5):
Will these A332 be factory fresh aircraft?

Yes and it will be in a 36J/201Y configuration.

QF can probably make more $$$ on the SYD-JNB and BNE-LAX eadditonal services that this 744 will be used on.

I'm sure it will go back to 744 once some A380's start arriving
 
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:57 am

Quoting ANstar (Reply 7):
Yes and it will be in a 36J/201Y configuration.

QF can probably make more $$$ on the SYD-JNB and BNE-LAX eadditonal services that this 744 will be used on.

I'm sure it will go back to 744 once some A380's start arriving

A332 is replacing the 747-300 which has been extended to operating the route until Dec 07.

The 747-400 will then go in for Cabin refits...New First class and Business class, Economy has not been decided yet.

The release of what our new cabins will have will be released to media on the 24 July 07. Look out for the media publications.

The A380 is going to have 20 galleys...each having a dedicated Area to serve. Sky Bars will be set up in Economy class, with Lounge area for Business Class with Sofas and large Plasma TV. (Saw this at Doors 2).

Many have specualted on here that the 4th cabin is for Premium Economy. I have it on good authority that the 4th cabin on the A380 is a Chairmans Lounge Cabin...situated at the very front of the aircraft. But as with Qantas, plans change at the very last minute! Cant rule anything out!

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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:58 am

Quoting Airnewzealand (Reply 8):
Many have specualted on here that the 4th cabin is for Premium Economy. I have it on good authority that the 4th cabin on the A380 is a Chairmans Lounge Cabin...situated at the very front of the aircraft. But as with Qantas, plans change at the very last minute! Cant rule anything out!

Good morning, Dixon has confirmed Premium Economy for the A380 and hinted the rest of the fleet may get it:
http://www.news.com.au/business/story/0,23636,22041265-462,00.html
 
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:22 am

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 4):
I would not mind flying QF LAX-AKL in an A332 at all.

you obviously haven't been in a QF configured A330-200...its bad enough flying across the country on them when they were doing the city flyer run, but to LA and back, no thanks! 303 people in a 31" pitch for 12hrs from LAX-AKL, shove that right where it fits..  Wink
 
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:04 am

Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 10):
303 people in a 31" pitch for 12hrs from LAX-AKL, shove that right where it fits..

Sounds not so good. Then again, I flew QF LAX-SYD and MEL-LAX in 744ERs earlier this year and, according to Seat Guru, the economy cabin of the QF 744s also has 31 inch seat pitch, and I did not ffeel the seats were too cramped (it was quite tolerable for the long flight).

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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:15 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 6):
They have operated that route for years, that is not an issue. I think this is more a way of reapportioning aircraft that were ill-suited to their earlier mission with the airline to one that makes more sense and also allowing them to redeploy high capacity, high revenue 744s to longer range and more heavily trafficked routes.

Or in fewer words, the route wasn't doing well Silly
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:26 am

Quoting Airnewzealand (Reply 8):
Many have specualted on here that the 4th cabin is for Premium Economy. I have it on good authority that the 4th cabin on the A380 is a Chairmans Lounge Cabin...situated at the very front of the aircraft. But as with Qantas, plans change at the very last minute! Cant rule anything out!

As noted above, Dixon has confirmed it is Premium Economy that is the new 4th cabin. The A380 config is also rumoured to be 14F/71J/32W/350Y

Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 10):
you obviously haven't been in a QF configured A330-200...its bad enough flying across the country on them when they were doing the city flyer run, but to LA and back, no thanks! 303 people in a 31" pitch for 12hrs from LAX-AKL

Why would it be any different to the QF 744's? They are the same pitch. Id rather 2-4-2 than 3-4-3 anyday.
 
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:28 am

5700nm on an A332??? they must be planning on very few passengers or they got some heck of tailwinds on that route!!, or they are stopping somewhere.
 
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:51 am

How can QF's A332s compete against the NZ 772s and 747s. The business class cabins are hugely different. Doesn't QF have a lower quality business class on the A330s than on the 747s?
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:56 am

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 15):
How can QF's A332s compete against the NZ 772s and 747s. The business class cabins are hugely different. Doesn't QF have a lower quality business class on the A330s than on the 747s?

Been on J/C with QF in the 330/743/744, to me the skybeds looked the same on the 330 and 744, the 743 from memory does not have skybeds, it has the OLD business seats.
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:00 am

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 15):
How can QF's A332s compete against the NZ 772s and 747s. The business class cabins are hugely different. Doesn't QF have a lower quality business class on the A330s than on the 747s?

The current J Class cabins on the A330 300s are the same as the 744s (Skybeds). The A330 200s will be new, and will be fitted with the 747/333 style cabins.
The previous QF A330 200s were solely used on domestic flights, and hence only had the domestic style J class.
 
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:35 am

Quoting Trex8 (Reply 14):
5700nm on an A332??? they must be planning on very few passengers or they got some heck of tailwinds on that route!!, or they are stopping somewhere.

The range of an A330-200 is around 6700nm witha full load. So that seems like they would have around 1000nm to play with for winds etc
 
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:51 pm

Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 10):
you obviously haven't been in a QF configured A330-200...its bad enough flying across the country on them when they were doing the city flyer run

What was wrong with them? I always enjoyed and preferred flying SYD-PER in the Cityflyer A332's than on anything else.

Quoting Zeke (Reply 16):
to me the skybeds looked the same on the 330 and 744

That's because they are the same.  Smile
 
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:11 pm

Quoting Jimyvr (Thread starter):
QANTAS will replace 3 of 7 weekly Melbourne - Auckland - Los Angeles B747-400 service with A330-200.

So four of the seven flights per week will still be 747-400 or will they be 747-300?
 
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:52 pm

Quoting Planemanofnz (Reply 20):

B747-400. B747-300 are used in the peak season
 
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:17 pm

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 4):
I would not mind flying QF LAX-AKL in an A332 at all.

Here here! Are these flights on the 332 bookable yet?

Quoting Trex8 (Reply 14):
5700nm on an A332??? they must be planning on very few passengers or they got some heck of tailwinds on that route!!, or they are stopping somewhere.

5700nm is nothing for the 332. I dont know the exact mileage but Air Transat has chartered 332's from YVR to ATH before..
 
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:31 pm

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 22):
Here here! Are these flights on the 332 bookable yet?

Yes they are if your flying in March 08
 
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:16 pm

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 12):

Or in fewer words, the route wasn't doing well

More like they needed to shift around capacity. That route is almost certainly more profitable than, say, the Kangaroo Route.

Quoting Trex8 (Reply 14):
5700nm on an A332??? they must be planning on very few passengers or they got some heck of tailwinds on that route!!, or they are stopping somewhere.

5652nm is 998nm of still air range to play with. They aren't going to have a problem

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 22):
I dont know the exact mileage but Air Transat has chartered 332's from YVR to ATH before..

YVR-ATH is over 300nm shorter than LAX-AKL
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:23 pm

Quoting ANstar (Reply 13):
Why would it be any different to the QF 744's? They are the same pitch. Id rather 2-4-2 than 3-4-3 anyday.

because the 747 configuration is less flying across the pacific in economy class...I'd rather a 265 seat Y class 747 than a 280 seat Y class A332 any day.
 
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:58 pm

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 22):
5700nm is nothing for the 332. I dont know the exact mileage but Air Transat has chartered 332's from YVR to ATH before..

And if I remember rightly (okay it was without a significant pax & cargo load!) Airbus held the world record for quite sometime (until the B777LR took the mantle!) of the longest twin engined flight ever, when they delivered Qantas their 2nd A330-200 (VH-EBB) non-stop from TLS to MEL. Not sure of the distance around 10400m/16700km/9000NM approx?

So legs are not the problem, even in winter with the strong westerlies it shouldn't pose too much of a problem.

The Skybeds on the A330's differ ever so slightly on the Airbus as opposed to the B744's, due to the cabin width. If my memory serves me right? I think the water bottle storage is different on the Airbus?

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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:30 pm

Quoting VH-BZF (Reply 26):
Airbus held the world record for quite sometime (until the B777LR took the mantle!) of the longest twin engined flight ever, when they delivered Qantas their 2nd A330-200 (VH-EBB) non-stop from TLS to MEL.

Straight from the Boeing website: On April 2, 1997, the 777-200ER (Extended Range) in Malaysia Airlines livery set a new Great Circle Distance Without Landing record--flying 12,455.34 miles (20,044.20 kilometers) from Seattle to Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

And I don't QF haven't had their A330s for that long... I remember hearing something like that obviously 20000km beats it.. A PB for Airbus :P


This move only sounds good if they are looking to increase frequency on this route. And it doesn't look likely yet either. Does anyone know which days its going to operate? I'm certainly going to book for the 744 or NZ on my next flight to LAX.
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:06 pm

Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 25):


because the 747 configuration is less flying across the pacific in economy class...I'd rather a 265 seat Y class 747 than a 280 seat Y class A332 any day.


In case you hadn't realised the configuration of the 332 will be 36J/201Y...
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:11 pm

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 27):
And I don't QF haven't had their A330s for that long... I remember hearing something like that obviously 20000km beats it.. A PB for Airbus :P

SEA-KUL is 12995 km (7017 nm) not "12,455.34 miles (20,044.20 kilometers)"
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:20 pm

Quoting Jimyvr (Thread starter):
332 is to be operated on SYD-BOM route from 01FEB08, which will eliminate westbound tech stop in Darwin.

Thank god for that... The technical stop is a headache...

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 5):
Will these A332 be factory fresh aircraft?

Yes, BRAND NEW birdy

Quoting Sydscott (Reply 19):

What was wrong with them? I always enjoyed and preferred flying SYD-PER in the Cityflyer A332's than on anything else.

VH-EBA,BB,BC and BD have a lighter floor which cant handle the weight of the Skybed.

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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:31 pm

Quoting Zeke (Reply 29):
SEA-KUL is 12995 km (7017 nm) not "12,455.34 miles (20,044.20 kilometers)"

in actual fact this flight was routed via the Atlantic ocean not your usual Pacific crossing





 
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:40 pm

Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 10):
you obviously haven't been in a QF configured A330-200...its bad enough flying across the country on them when they were doing the city flyer run, but to LA and back, no thanks! 303 people in a 31" pitch for 12hrs from LAX-AKL, shove that right where it fits..



Quoting ANstar (Reply 7):
Yes and it will be in a 36J/201Y configuration.

Well, it looks like it won't be in the same configuration as the domestic/regional ones... So, no 303 people for 12 hours, no need to worry.

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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:12 pm

Quoting LifelinerOne (Reply 32):
Well, it looks like it won't be in the same configuration as the domestic/regional ones... So, no 303 people for 12 hours, no need to worry.

Cheers!

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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:19 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 24):
More like they needed to shift around capacity.

Yeah...one possible remedy for a poorly performing route Wink
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:13 am

Quoting VHXLR8 (Reply 17):
The A330 200s will be new, and will be fitted with the 747/333 style cabins.

Like an updated version of Skybed ? Or it's a complete new one ? Like this time it's true flat bed instead of lie-flat bed ?
 
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:31 am

As far as I know, this will be only the second regularly scheduled A330 into LAX. The only other one I can think of is EI's LAX-DUB routing with the A332. Is that accurate?
 
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:40 am

It sounds like QF is making a very sound decision here by deploying 332s on this AKL-LAX route. Since it's a twin engine is it safe to say they are going to save a remarkable amount of money on fuel savings over flying 743/744s?

Will these new a/c used on this route have more galley's as well (with lower deck galley storage or prep areas?)? I had been thinking about that since someone mentioned the 388s will have 20 galley's. I'm also wondering how many galley's the 788/789s will have since they will be doing ultra long hauls as well.

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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:23 am

Quoting Travelin man (Reply 36):
Is that accurate?

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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:39 am

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 38):
LTU flies to DUS from LAX

Ahh. I thought that was a 763.
 
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:52 am

Quoting LACA773 (Reply 37):
It sounds like QF is making a very sound decision here by deploying 332s on this AKL-LAX route. Since it's a twin engine is it safe to say they are going to save a remarkable amount of money on fuel savings over flying 743/744s?

This is only the case if the fuel burn per passenger is lower... of course the A332 will burn less fuel than the 747 over the sector, its a smaller aircraft... however I believe the 747's burn less fuel per passenger (can someone confirm???)
The decision to move to an A332 over the 744 only makes sense if the loads on the 744 no longer justify the capacity of this aircraft (ie AKL-LAX for QF is underperforming)... doesn't surprise me with the new NZ product.
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:56 am

Quoting LACA773 (Reply 37):
Since it's a twin engine is it safe to say they are going to save a remarkable amount of money on fuel savings over flying 743/744s?

It looks like the AKLLAX route runs about a 5 point lower load factor than some of their other nonstops to Australia on average. Add to that the fact that QF doesn't have as strong a home market in AKL as in MEL/BNE/SYD, it's a tag flight onto MEL, and it's a mileage burner allegedly, and the flight seems like an uphill battle to me. The reduction to a 332 probably just reduces the number of empty seats and improves RASM considerably.
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:35 am

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 22):
5700nm is nothing for the 332. I dont know the exact mileage but Air Transat has chartered 332's from YVR to ATH before..

YVR-ATH is 350 miles shorter than LAX-AKL, 5305 naut. mi. vs 5652, and there are more potential fuel stops between YVR and ATH.

I can't think of any current scheduled A330 routes as long as LAX-AKL. If not mistaken, SYD-BOM is QF's current longest A330 nonstsopo at 5482 naut. mi.
 
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:43 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 42):
Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 22):
5700nm is nothing for the 332. I dont know the exact mileage but Air Transat has chartered 332's from YVR to ATH before..

YVR-ATH is 350 miles shorter than LAX-AKL, 5305 naut. mi. vs 5652, and there are more potential fuel stops between YVR and ATH.

I can't think of any current scheduled A330 routes as long as LAX-AKL. If not mistaken, SYD-BOM is QF's current longest A330 nonstsopo at 5482 naut. mi.

AF CDG-SCL must be long
 
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:19 am

Quoting YULYMX (Reply 43):
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 42):
Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 22):
5700nm is nothing for the 332. I dont know the exact mileage but Air Transat has chartered 332's from YVR to ATH before..

YVR-ATH is 350 miles shorter than LAX-AKL, 5305 naut. mi. vs 5652, and there are more potential fuel stops between YVR and ATH.

I can't think of any current scheduled A330 routes as long as LAX-AKL. If not mistaken, SYD-BOM is QF's current longest A330 nonstsopo at 5482 naut. mi.

AF CDG-SCL must be long

AF uses the B777 CDG-SCL, not the A330. I don't believe AF has ever operated the A330 to South America.
 
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:42 am

Quoting VHVXB (Reply 31):

in actual fact this flight was routed via the Atlantic ocean not your usual Pacific crossing

Well the distance quoted is still wrong then, great circles are about 40,000 km, if the short arc is about 13,000 km, that means the longer arc is 27,000 km, not 20,000 km. Unless 20,000 km is correct, and they never flew a great circle, but flew a small circle, in any case what is being claimed in that text cannot be factually correct.
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:42 am

Quoting Aerohottie (Reply 40):
The decision to move to an A332 over the 744 only makes sense if the loads on the 744 no longer justify the capacity of this aircraft (ie AKL-LAX for QF is underperforming)... doesn't surprise me with the new NZ product.

People really do miss the point dont they and PULL at straws!!

As i stated before... The A332 is REPLACING the current 747-300 on the days it operates. This is to allow Skybeds back onto the route. This is also when the planned cabin refit is to take place.

Fantastic about Premium YC... now lets wait and see what they put at the front of the aircraft  Wink

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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:12 am

Quoting Travelin man (Reply 39):
Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 38):
LTU flies to DUS from LAX

Ahh. I thought that was a 763.

Since when did LTU operate the B763... Havent they retired the B763 and operate a strong fleet of A332/A333 aircraft...

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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:41 am

Quoting Airnewzealand (Reply 46):
As i stated before... The A332 is REPLACING the current 747-300 on the days it operates. This is to allow Skybeds back onto the route. This is also when the planned cabin refit is to take place.

Are these brand new A332's Likely to be configured similarly to the A333's and the 744's... AVOD and PTV's in Economy and the like? From a personal standpoint, this is a welcome move as those 743's are starting to show their age.
 
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RE: Qantas 332 AKL-LAX From March 08

Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:18 pm

Quoting TerminalQ (Reply 48):
Are these brand new A332's Likely to be configured similarly to the A333's and the 744's... AVOD and PTV's in Economy and the like? From a personal standpoint, this is a welcome move as those 743's are starting to show their age.

Yes...

They will be in the same layout as A333...with less seats in YC. 201 has been quoted. AVOD in all classes.

On that Matter...Qantas is releasing its new Soft product on the 24th July for the main cabin (Economy) New blankets (BLACK), pillows (GREY), curtains, trays, cutlery (going to plastic), and glasses are being released. Its very bright too. RED and black are the trays...but a welcome change!

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