787 Rollout-- Boeing's Entire Jet Family

GoDIA · Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:24 am

A friend sent this shot to me...what a neat picture.

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I loved this shot...the entire Boeing jet family represented. Amid all the 787 roll-out hoopla, perhaps the coolest event went unnoticed.

gkirk · Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:31 am

Yet the first plane I noticed was Concorde Wink

zvocio79 · Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:34 am

how about the dreamlifter?

boeing743 · Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:37 am

very good pics of Boeing aircrafts. It is too bad that I has not fly on all of them. I had flew on Boeing 727, 737, 757 that is it. I would like to flying on 747, 777, 767 and now 787.

AirframeAS · Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:38 am

Quoting GoDia (Thread starter):

I thought this pic was already shown on A.net last weekend.... or was I hallucinating?

FAEDC3 · Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:39 am

Beautiful lineup....

off topic: For some reason Concorde is one of the first things that pulled my eye... Smile

CruzinAltitude · Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:40 am

Quoting Zvocio79 (Reply 2):
how about the dreamlifter?

Are you asking if it is in the picture?

If so, yet, it is in the upper left corner of the picture.

PapaNovember · Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:59 am

Very cool pic!

MYT321 · Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:08 am

Always thought the 707 was a big aircraft, but people try to tell me otherwise; on the line-up here only the 747 and 777 are bigger. By the way anybody notice Concorde , Her Majesty looking down her nose at all the upstarts.

KBOS · Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:13 am

Quoting Boeing743 (Reply 3):
very good pics of Boeing aircrafts. It is too bad that I has not fly on all of them. I had flew on Boeing 727, 737, 757 that is it. I would like to flying on 747, 777, 767 and now 787.

Don't forget the 707!!!!

That one won't be too easy to fly on unless you happen to know John Travolta.....

Anybody know of another still in service? I'm glad I got to fly on one in the 70's

warreng24 · Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:22 am

Would be nice to have the whole family present once again for the 787 first flight.

MD-90 · Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:47 am

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 1):
Yet the first plane I noticed was Concorde Wink

Hey, I didn't notice Concorde until you mentioned her.

Quoting MYT321 (Reply 8):
Always thought the 707 was a big aircraft, but people try to tell me otherwise; on the line-up here only the 747 and 777 are bigger.

The 707-300 has a big wing, but the 763 is also larger.

klkla · Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:56 am

Quoting Zvocio79 (Reply 2):

Isn't that the Dreamlifter right above the Air France 777? I hadn't noticed that before.

CO777DAL · Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:04 am

Can anyone help me with the line up?
777 Air France
767 Delta
757 Continental
747 ?
737 Alaska
727 FedEx
717?
707?

deltaamtrak058 · Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:13 am

777 Air France
767 Delta
757 Continental
747 ?
737 Alaska
727 FedEx
717 Airtran
707?

brons2 · Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:19 am

747-200 RR Flying Test Bed (with 1 Trent 1000 installed!)
707-300 Omega Air Cargo

KBOS · Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:42 am

Is that the first 747 built sitting over by the Concorde? The color scheme looks familiar...

RobertS975 · Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:43 am

Check out the B-47 in front of the Museum of Flight.

tonytifao · Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:46 am

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 1):
Yet the first plane I noticed was Concorde

Why is there a Concorde at Boeing? Smile

AirframeAS · Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:50 am

Quoting Tonytifao (Reply 18):
Why is there a Concorde at Boeing?

If you really had to ask....that is the Museum of Flight there. Wink

dairbus · Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:00 am

Quoting KBOS (Reply 16):
Is that the first 747 built sitting over by the Concorde? The color scheme looks familiar...

Yup. That is the City of Everett, N7470/RA001. They also have an AA 727-200, the first 737, and a VC-137B parked next to the Concorde.

CitrusCritter · Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:02 pm

Quoting Boeing743 (Reply 3):

Quoting KBOS (Reply 9):

What? No 717 love? crying

(even if it is truly a Douglas/McDonnell-Douglas plane)

707lvr · Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:47 pm

Someday when the Museum of Flight is a lot larger and you guys are a lot older, there will be a collection/display like this again. But not until some major retirements, many many years from now.

OldAeroGuy · Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:07 pm

Quoting MYT321 (Reply 8):
Always thought the 707 was a big aircraft, but people try to tell me otherwise; on the line-up here only the 747 and 777 are bigger.

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 11):
The 707-300 has a big wing, but the 763 is also larger.

The 752 is also longer than the 707-300 (47.3 m vs 46.61 m respectively). The 707-300 wing area is about 50% larger though, reflecting the 707's need for fuel capacity and the aerodynamic advances made in the 25 years between EIS of both aircraft.

L-188 · Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:18 pm

I would point out that while that is probably the most complete Boeing jet line you will find, the Boeing 720 is noticably absent.

TrijetsRMissed · Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:43 pm

Quoting CitrusCritter (Reply 21):
What? No 717 love? (even if it is truly a Douglas/McDonnell-Douglas plane)

I chuckled to myself when I first glanced at the row of aircraft. Douglas may be long gone but the modernized DC-9 is the only non-Boeing design to make this impressive line.

ArcticBlast · Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:36 pm

And, also note that in this impressive gathering of airplanes, there can be seen a venerable DC-3, tucked in near the B-47, just above the B747-200.

//Paul in Seattle

gkirk · Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:41 pm

Whats that weird looking a/c to the right of the 747LCF? A wedgetail?

AlexPorter · Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:47 pm

Quoting L-188 (Reply 24):
I would point out that while that is probably the most complete Boeing jet line you will find, the Boeing 720 is noticably absent.

Well, the 720 is basically a 707 variant. It just wasn't given a new designation like the 707-500 or anything like that, as would have happened under modern practices. So the 707 serves as that purpose.

The reverse would be if, say, the 737-800 was called the 750 instead of the 737-800. The 720 uses the same tail and basic configuration as the 707, with some improvements here and there. It really isn't a different family.

ArcticBlast · Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:33 pm

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 27):
What's that weird looking a/c to the right of the 747LCF? A wedgetail?

I'll defer to others for a more comprehensive answer to your question. About all I can say is that I believe it is a modified B737 NG. The main modification is a feature (radome?) of some sort mounted on top of the aft section of the fuselage. I don't know its registration number, or who owns or operates it.

I have seen that plane parked there on the ramp at BFI every time I have visited the Museum of Flight in the last 2-3 years. (Gee, BFI is just a couple miles south of me; I should drive down and investigate for you.)

//Paul in Seattle

[Edited 2007-07-14 12:34:40]

Revelation · Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:52 pm

I sooo wish I was there that day...

Does anyone have a higher resolution version of this picture?

Quoting ArcticBlast (Reply 29):
Quoting Gkirk (Reply 27):
What's that weird looking a/c to the right of the 747LCF? A wedgetail?

I'll defer to others for a more comprehensive answer to your question. About all I can say is that I believe it is a modified B737 NG. The main modification is a feature (radome?) of some sort mounted on top of the aft section of the fuselage. I don't know its registration number, or who owns or operates it.

It does look like the 737 AEW&C a.k.a. Wedgetail.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedgetail

It wouldn't be all that unexpected to see the Wegetail at BFI. When I was there many moons ago, I saw some AWACS parked in the same area.

chrisnh · Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:54 pm

Did Air France just 'loan' the 777 they normally use to serve Seattle for this purpose? Or was the plane sent there specifically for this event?

Chris in NH

gkirk · Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:01 pm

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 31):
Did Air France just 'loan' the 777 they normally use to serve Seattle for this purpose? Or was the plane sent there specifically for this event?

Think it was an AF 77W that hadn't been delivered yet?

GoDIA · Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:35 pm

I missed the B-47 out front initially. I wonder where they have the 727-100 in the original UA paint scheme.

Someday I'd love to visit the Museum of Flight, they have an almost pristine B-29 that used to be at the Lowry AFB museum until 1994. Plus, I'll bet they have a B-17 too.

Quoting ArcticBlast (Reply 29):
Quoting Gkirk (Reply 27):
What's that weird looking a/c to the right of the 747LCF? A wedgetail?

I'll defer to others for a more comprehensive answer to your question. About all I can say is that I believe it is a modified B737 NG. The main modification is a feature (radome?) of some sort mounted on top of the aft section of the fuselage. I don't know its registration number, or who owns or operates it.

To the best of my recollection, I think Australia and/or New Zealand had purchased the AEW version of the 737NG. Maybe it was awaiting delivery to one of those air forces. Maybe Paul in Seattle could let us all know!

khelmDTW · Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:02 pm

If I remember right, 3 of the 7 shown have the same fuselage cross section and nose. (707, 727, 737)

Am I right?

lostturttle · Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:13 pm

Quoting MYT321 (Reply 8):
Always thought the 707 was a big aircraft, but people try to tell me otherwise; on the line-up here only the 747 and 777 are bigger. By the way anybody notice Concorde , Her Majesty looking down her nose at all the upstarts.

Quoting OldAeroGuy (Reply 23):

The 752 is also longer than the 707-300 (47.3 m vs 46.61 m respectively). The 707-300 wing area is about 50% larger though, reflecting the 707's need for fuel capacity and the aerodynamic advances made in the 25 years between EIS of both aircraft.

Thats the first thing I noticed as well, just how big the 707 wing is! Then I saw the Concorde......

kc135topboom · Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:18 pm

Quoting RobertS975 (Reply 17):
Check out the B-47 in front of the Museum of Flight.

With the DC-3 next to her.

Quoting CitrusCritter (Reply 21):
What? No 717 love?

Do you mean the real B-717, the KC-135?

kbfispotter · Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:35 pm

Quoting GoDIA (Reply 33):
I wonder where they have the 727-100 in the original UA paint scheme.

The 727-100 is at the Museum of Flight's Restoration Facility at PAE undergoing restoration to return it to flight status for a ferry flight to BFI. I should also point out that that aircraft is the prototype 727.

Quoting ArcticBlast (Reply 26):
there can be seen a venerable DC-3, tucked in near the B-47,

That is not a DC-3, it is a DC-2, the only one still airworthy in the US, and one of two still airworthy in the world.

For more info on the museum, I recommend visiting www.rbogash.com. Bob Bogash is a senior restorer at the museum, and has an excellent website!

Kris

GlobalATL · Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:41 pm

And yet, Southwest wasn't chosen for the 737 lineup....aint that going against the grain?

kbfispotter · Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:48 pm

Quoting GlobalATL (Reply 38):
And yet, Southwest wasn't chosen for the 737 lineup....aint that going against the grain?

But AS is a local airline, so they belong in that line up: A local airline showing their support to another local company and to the men and women of the region who spent their lives working on those planes...

Kris

Gr8Circle · Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:01 am

Quoting MYT321 (Reply 8):
Always thought the 707 was a big aircraft, but people try to tell me otherwise; on the line-up here only the 747 and 777 are bigger

The 707 was quite a big aircraft in its time....only thing is, it had a narrow cabin similar to the 727....I had th opportunity to fly quite a lot on the 707 in the 70's...miss them smile

drexotica · Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:34 am

Quoting GoDIA (Reply 33):
Someday I'd love to visit the Museum of Flight, they have an almost pristine B-29 that used to be at the Lowry AFB museum until 1994. Plus, I'll bet they have a B-17 too.

If your interest is military aviation, there is no better museum in the entire world than the USAF Museum at Wright-Patterson (Dayton, Ohio). A truly phenominal collection - including a D-21, a B-36, and the remaining XB-70A (personal favorite).

bhxdtw · Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:44 am

How come AF was chosen ????
just curious...

lostturttle · Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:54 am

Quoting KBFIspotter (Reply 37):

For more info on the museum, I recommend visiting www.rbogash.com. Bob Bogash is a senior restorer at the museum, and has an excellent website!

Kris

Thank you for the link! A lot of personal history on his site.

CitrusCritter · Sun Jul 15, 2007 1:02 am

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 36):
Do you mean the real B-717, the KC-135?

An internal designation at best.

ScarletHarlot · Sun Jul 15, 2007 1:26 am

There was a whole 'nother thread about this event.
Boeing 7Series Complete 7/7/07 Flyover Details (by IAD787 Jul 7 2007 in Civil Aviation)

Quoting Revelation (Reply 30):
I sooo wish I was there that day...

Some of us were. Wink

rikkus67 · Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:44 am

In regards to the narrow body line-up:

The upper fuselage lobe of the 707,727,737, and 757 are all the same dimension. The 707 had a substancially larger lower lobe, with larger cargo capacity. The 757's nose and cockpit was changed to have commonality with the 767.

I have often wondered why Boeing didn't graft the 757 nose to the 737NG series.. anyone else wonder that?

Most impressive picture! I only wish I had an opportunity to fly the 707... although I did fly her cousin the DC-8 back in the 80's from Canada (Calgary) to Europe (Copenhagen via Rejkavik). I've enjoyed many flights on almost all series of the 737 (missing -100, -400, -900), flew the "flying banana" 727, and was blown away by the take-off power of the 757 (and it's wing flex in MODERATE turbulence). Still need the 747,767,777 on my list... and can't wait to fly the DREAMLINER!

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flybynight · Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:39 am

I drive by the Museum of Flight frequently, and the one thing that always bothers me is how dirty the first 747 is that is part of the display. Great museum. If you are ever in Seattle it is a MUST see.

PhilGil · Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:47 am

Quoting ScarletHarlot (Reply 45):
There was a whole 'nother thread about this event...
Some of us were.

I knew when I linked to that shot there had to ba an a.net connection

[Edited 2007-07-14 21:50:24]

Viscount724 · Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:06 am

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 11):
Quoting MYT321 (Reply 8):
Always thought the 707 was a big aircraft, but people try to tell me otherwise; on the line-up here only the 747 and 777 are bigger.

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 11):
The 707-300 has a big wing, but the 763 is also larger.

The 752 is also longer than the 707-300 (47.3 m vs 46.61 m respectively). The 707-300 wing area is about 50% larger though, reflecting the 707's need for fuel capacity and the aerodynamic advances made in the 25 years between EIS of both aircraft.

It's often overlooked that the 727-200 is also about 3 inches longer than the 707-320 due to the T-tail configuration.

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