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PHX Monsoon 07/16/2007

Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:22 pm

Well it is officially Monsoon season here in Arizona. And tonight is our first real storm of the season.

There is currently a groundstop for PHX and TUS is beginning to see the first of a few diversions.

GROUND STOPS

PHX 0345 MED ZAB ZLA ZDV ZOA WEATHER/TSTMS 012

METAR for KPHX
KPHX 170313Z 18011G17KT 3SM HZ BLDU FEW001 BKN120 BKN150 BKN250 41/12 A2969 RMK AO2 CONS LTGCGIC DSNT SE-S BLDU FEW001 CB DSNT SE-S AND NW-N

METAR for KIWA
KIWA 170247Z 18020G31KT 5SM TS BLDU BKN120TCU OVC200 37/17 A2980 RMK TSB45 OCNL LGTCC OHD TCU N-W
 
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RE: PHX Monsoon 07/16/2007

Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:34 pm

There was a huge duststorm that moved in, then just kind of sat there. Its starting to get big again. Here is a picture I took of the storm moving in.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b51/phxplane/storm1.jpg

A friend in Maricopa just said his backyard is flooding so I hope it moves up to PHX. Bad for planes but fun to watch.
 
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RE: PHX Monsoon 07/16/2007

Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:56 pm

Diversions:

SWA765 BWI-PHX -> TUS
SWA44 ELP-PHX -> TUS
SWA816 PVD-PHX -> TUS
AWE453 SLC-PHX -> TUS
AWE210 SEA-PHX -> TUS
AWE640 RNO-PHX -> ONT
AWE688 EWR-PHX -> LAS
AWE550 DFW-PHX -> TUS
UAL953 IAD-PHX -> TUS



http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z85/mattdocampo/HPIM1101_small.jpg
 
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RE: PHX Monsoon 07/16/2007

Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:11 pm

I got back from the store a few minutes ago and there were still a couple planes taking off from PHX... needless to say I picked the wrong time to go to the store.
 
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RE: PHX Monsoon 07/16/2007

Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:31 pm

Quoting Asuflyer05 (Reply 2):
Diversions:

Add AA 1849 to that list. DFW-PHX -> TUS

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL1849

One of the more interesting holding patterns I've ever seen. Holding above TUS before landing.

This one did a similar pattern, but landed in PHX.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE617

Observations from 8:30 PM local show the wind was SSE @ 15-20.

[Edited 2007-07-17 06:38:55]
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RE: PHX Monsoon 07/16/2007

Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:52 pm

Hmm... I'm up at an unusually dry MSP this time of the year, but this does mean that my swimming pool in Tempe is now full of palm tree fronds, dirt, and is probably unusable. It also means that it will probably be humid and 105 degrees in August when I get down there. Hope the A/C works.

That plane with four engines from the picture above... is that just a stratotanker or is it something else like BA? It's hard to tell from that photo.
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RE: PHX Monsoon 07/16/2007

Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:13 pm

Oh look, the weather's gone to crap again. Direct crosswind (emphasis mine).

2007/07/17 04:51
KPHX 170451Z 17018G24KT 10SM TS BKN100CB BKN120 BKN250 32/17 A2978 RMK AO2 PK WND 13030/0407 TSE22B34RAE15B42E50 SLP062 CONS LTGCGIC N AND OHD AND S TS OHD MOV UNKN PRESENT WX VCSH P0001 T03220172

And DL has brought back the DC-9. I guess NW was right all along.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/D...5/history/20070717/0451Z/KPHX/KTUS

Having to wait some more: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...9/history/20070717/0444Z/KTUS/KPHX

Quoting AlexPorter (Reply 5):
That plane with four engines from the picture above... is that just a stratotanker or is it something else like BA? It's hard to tell from that photo.

Looks like BA. That flight took off at 7:40 this evening.

ABQ Center (133.0) told SWA 1323 and 206 to expect another 30 min or more in holding. He also used the term "EFT time". What does this mean exactly? Something with fuel I imagine.

1323 is coming to TUS now. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/SWA1323

[Edited 2007-07-17 07:31:16]
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RE: PHX Monsoon 07/16/2007

Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:42 pm

Quoting Asuflyer05 (Thread starter):
Well it is officially Monsoon season here in Arizona. And tonight is our first real storm of the season.

Actually, no it really isn't. We need two more days of 55F in the dew point to actually be 'officially' in the monsoon season. Last week was a false alarm with the dust storm. Just because we had a dust storm, rain and thuderstorm doesn't mean we are in it yet. its all about the 3 consecutive days of the dew point temperatures.

But regardless, its fun to watch. The diversions were expected.
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RE: PHX Monsoon 07/16/2007

Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:43 pm

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 7):
Actually, no it really isn't.

It is in TUS.  Wink Enjoy the rain though, we did here.
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RE: PHX Monsoon 07/16/2007

Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:52 pm

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 8):
It is in TUS.

Doesn't TUS get it earlier than PHX does?
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RE: PHX Monsoon 07/16/2007

Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:02 pm

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 9):
Doesn't TUS get it earlier than PHX does?

I don't know exactly, but we only need a 54F dewpoint for three days because of our altitude. We do tend to get more rain during monsoon, probably because we are closer to the moisture source, Mexico.

Our airport doesn't get affected much, either wait 10 minutes, or we have a crosswind runway if needed. The last time I recall there being diversions from TUS was during the RWY 11L reconstruction last year when the construction crews accidentally knocked out all the runway lights. Oops!
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RE: PHX Monsoon 07/16/2007

Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:05 pm

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 10):
I don't know exactly, but we only need a 54F dewpoint for three days because of our altitude.

Out east we would kill for a dew point down around 50-55F
 
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RE: PHX Monsoon 07/16/2007

Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:14 pm

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 10):
We do tend to get more rain during monsoon, probably because we are closer to the moisture source, Mexico.

Thats what I was referring to though in terms of who gets it earlier.
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RE: PHX Monsoon 07/16/2007

Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:25 pm

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 6):
He also used the term "EFT time". What does this mean exactly? Something with fuel I imagine.

It might have been EFC which is expect further clearance. Its when they can expect to get more information or if they loose communications the time when they can leave the hold.
 
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RE: PHX Monsoon 07/16/2007

Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:26 pm

Quoting Silentbob (Reply 11):
Out east we would kill for a dew point down around 50-55F

There are times we'd kill to get rid of a dewpoint like that. Like when it gets really humid and doesn't rain.

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 12):
Thats what I was referring to though in terms of who gets it earlier.

Oh, I see now.
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