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Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:47 am

Just got this press release

Today is an exciting day for all of us as we are pleased to announce the Airport Authority has reached an agreement with Allegiant Air to establish Gateway as a hub airport for their passenger service operations.

Allegiant Air, established in 1997 and currently serving over 50 destinations throughout the United States, will announce their plans later today to base two MD-80 series turbojet aircraft at Gateway to service 13 cities.

The destination cities will be announced at a later date with the first city being announced on Allegiant's Web site, www.allegiantair.com, on August 9. Tickets will be available for purchase on Allegiant's Web site at the time of the announcement.

The first flight is scheduled for October 25.

Great news for IWA and the East Valley, but 13 cities with 2 aircraft will be less than daily. Hopefully they will use other aircraft "turning" through IWA as well to maybe get some decent frequency. better to start of slowly and not pull a Western Part II....Stay tuned.

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Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:32 am

It is now up on the site, and it looks like they will announce FLL tomorrow:

Quote:
The self-proclaimed "Official Airline for Sunshine" will base 130-seat MD-80 series jet aircraft at Williams Gateway Airport. Williams Gateway will serve as the fourth base at a world-class, leisure destination for the Las Vegas-based airline, which also serves McCarran International Airport (Las Vegas), Orlando Sanford International Airport and St. Petersburg-Clearwater International Airport. The airline plans to announce a fifth base at another world-class destination Aug. 1.


Although, why are they waiting to announce them? Will they do the same thing for FLL?

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Wed Aug 01, 2007 6:03 am

Looks like its guess the 13 cities. BLI, RFD, COS, Peoria, Des Moines, Cedar Rapaids, St Louis MidAmerica, Ft Collins and Wichita would be 9 guesses of mine
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 6:04 am

Quoting Itsnotfinals (Thread starter):
two MD-80 series turbojet aircraft at Gateway to service 13 cities.

2 aircraft, figuring each one serves two cities a day (exp Tues?) sounds like a decent start to me. Should be interesting what cities will be chosen from the west and midwest. BLI, COS, LAS, RFD should be a given, but the other cities?
 
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 6:30 am

I have to concur about RFD as a high probability as they have demonstrated great returns for Allegiant. However since its not a done deal they can only look at the facts and hope.

Here is a writeup today on the subject:

Courtesy: Rockford Register Star

Allegiant To Fly To Phoenix, Rockford Hopes For Routes

http://www.rrstar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/...31/BUSINESS/107310072/-1/NEWSNOW05
 
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 6:31 am

Quoting AirCop (Reply 3):
BLI, COS, LAS, RFD

BLI was doing really well until Western (Mark II ) couldn't pay Xtra Airways for the charters and they had to shut down, so that might be in the cards. LAS would be awesome since prices to PHX have gone up considerably on WN and US from PHX.

RFD should do well to if they decise to do it...it's going to be interesting for sure.
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 6:33 am

Hmm, just looked up IWA on the map.... Sure is a long like to my comfy accommodations at the Camelback Inn...

I'm sure it's just twenty minutes away (common joke for valley residents, everything is 20 minutes away).

So does SKB announce service tomorrow? Sure seems ripe for the pickin'

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Wed Aug 01, 2007 6:42 am

I think EUG, MFR, FAT, GJT, COS, ICT and DSM are all un-likely since they all have MULTIPLE daily flights on US Airways to PHX. Allegiant has done a good job of keeping out of the way of the big guys, I don't think they will change that philosophy now. (PHX is a whole lot different than LAS and while Allegiant is willing to take chances in LAS to some US Airways cities like EUG and MFR, these are not make or break routes for US Airways. Conversely, I am sure US Airways would consider any intrusion into their markets from PHX a major threat and will respond aggressively. So, why would Allegiant want to wake a sleeping giant and not skirt around the edges where they DON'T fly.

Coincidentally, (or, maybe not) if you look at the remaining cities with a normal average of 3 flights per week or more to LAS you have 14 cities. They are: SCK, BLI, PSC, MSO, BIL, FNL, FSD, MFE, SGF, CID, RFD, GRB, SBN and TYS. PIA probably has an outside chance as well. Consequently, these would be where I would put my money.
 
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:07 am

GRB ? That would be an interesting choice, never thought about that. Actually MFR and EUG might be a possibles, will the strong market between PHX and Oregon, and really the MFR service from PHX is just one flight a day..so I guessing it really wouldn't cause US to lose any sleep if G4 started service.
 
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:09 am

Quoting Itsnotfinals (Thread starter):
but 13 cities with 2 aircraft will be less than daily. Hopefully they will use other aircraft "turning" through IWA as well to maybe get some decent frequency.

G4 is not in the frequency business. Most destinations are 2-4x weekly and cater solely to leisure traffic.
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:17 am

PIA's director, Ken Spirito, said this last week:

"'I will tell you we will be announcing more cities', Spirito said, adding the new destinations will start before the end of 2007." (Peoria Journal Star - July 26, 2007)

I think that makes Peoria a contender for both Fort Lauderdale and Phoenix.
 
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:19 am

Quoting Itsnotfinals (Thread starter):
better to start of slowly and not pull a Western Part II....Stay tuned.

I can assure you Allegiant is no where near a Western Part II. There is serious money behind Allegiant and Allegiant is a publicly traded company..unlike the fly by nite Western operation.

This is great news for Allegiant and for IWA. Marketing these flights may prove to be a challenge. What is there to advertise about Phoenix? Hot Temps? Golf? You can do the same in Vegas right? I guess the Phoenix area is a lot like the Vegas area without the gambling. This can appeal to the people who are turned off by gambling and the Vegas image.

I am confident IWA will be as successful as SFB and PIE have proved to be. This news combined with the upcoming FLL announcement really show how the Allegiant name is truly evolving as a national vacation brand taking you where you want to go on vacation. This evolution sure has been interesting to watch and I look forward to seeing the IWA operation swing into full gear!
 
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:21 am

Quoting Itsnotfinals (Thread starter):
Allegiant Air, established in 1997 and currently serving over 50 destinations throughout the United States, will announce their plans later today to base two MD-80 series turbojet aircraft at Gateway to service 13 cities.

"turbojet aircraft" Wow, that will be interesting.  Wink
 
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:22 am

Good job G4!!! I hope FSD and/or FAR are picked for IWA service.

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Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:23 am

Quoting Vivavegas (Reply 6):
I'm sure it's just twenty minutes away (common joke for valley residents, everything is 20 minutes away).

when the Loop 202 final section opens next spring, then it will only be 20 minutes to South Scottsdale (with no traffic)

Quoting CitrusCritter (Reply 9):
G4 is not in the frequency business. Most destinations are 2-4x weekly and cater solely to leisure traffic.

Yes I am aware of that, that's why I used the term "Hub" since it will really be P2P. 4 or 5 x would be great , but IWA should just be happy for anything  Smile


I am totally cool with 2-3x frequencies, that is a smart way to spread out ASM's form 1 focus city
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:24 am

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
July 31, 2007

ALLEGIANT AIR ANNOUNCES NEW

BASE IN PHOENIX-MESA:

Airline to Launch Low-Cost Service Oct. 25

(Mesa, Ariz.)--- Low-cost airline, Allegiant Air, LLC, a subsidiary of Allegiant Travel Company (Nasdaq: ALGT) today announced it will establish a new base in the world-class, leisure destination of Arizona, with low-fare, nonstop jet service from Phoenix-Mesa beginning Oct. 25.

Flying to/from America’s “favorite” small cities, Allegiant plans to launch the new service from Williams Gateway Airport with 13 markets already served by the carrier. The first route will be announced and available for purchase Aug. 9. The remaining 12 routes will all be announced before Sept. 16. A clock on the company’s website will provide a countdown to each new city announcement and can be viewed at www.allegiantair.com.

“We’re extremely pleased to add Arizona to our growing roster of world-class leisure destinations,” Ponder Harrison, Managing Director for Allegiant Travel Company. “This is an exciting new market for our airline and our customers. We look forward to a successful relationship between the airport authority, area resorts and community leaders.”



"This is an exciting day for all of Arizona as we welcome Allegiant Air to Williams Gateway Airport and the Valley," Gila River Indian Community and WGAA Chairman Lt. Governor Jennifer Allison-Ray said. "Over the years, Allegiant Air has consistently attracted a high volume of passengers and we're very happy to have the opportunity to bring their convenient travel services to Valley residents."

The self-proclaimed “Official Airline for Sunshine” will base 130-seat MD-80 series jet aircraft at Williams Gateway Airport. Williams Gateway will serve as the fourth base at a world-class, leisure destination for the Las Vegas-based airline, which also serves McCarran International Airport (Las Vegas), Orlando Sanford International Airport and St. Petersburg-Clearwater International Airport. The airline plans to announce a fifth base at another world-class destination Aug. 1.

Allegiant Air currently provides low-cost scheduled service to more than 50 cities across the U.S., with 42 routes to Las Vegas, 26 routes to Orlando and 14 routes to the Tampa Bay area. In addition to its scheduled service, the airline also operates charter service throughout the U.S., Mexico and Canada.

Williams Gateway Airport is “just plane easy” for commercial passengers. With three expansive runways (10,401 feet; 10,201 feet; and 9,301 feet), a newly remodeled passenger terminal, and convenient parking, Williams Gateway is positioned to be a dynamic reliever airport to Phoenix’s Sky Harbor International Airport. Williams Gateway Airport is owned and operated by the Williams Gateway Airport Authority that includes the City of Mesa, City of Phoenix, Town of Gilbert, Town of Queen Creek, and the Gila River Indian Community.

As a full-service travel company, Allegiant provides even greater savings to customers by offering complete, low-cost vacation packages. Allegiant will partner with more than 20 area hotels, including hotels in the Phoenix, Scottsdale, Tempe, Mesa and Sedona areas. The company will provide low-cost car rental service through its partnership with Alamo Rent a Car.

The company commented that market research and input from local community leaders indicate the greater Phoenix area will welcome the value and convenience of flying nonstop out of Williams Gateway Airport as an alternative to connecting flights through hubs.

Beginning Aug. 9, reservations to/from Phoenix-Mesa may be made through the company’s website at www.allegiantair.com, the airline’s Reservations Center at 702-505-8888 or professional travel agents.

About the Company
Las Vegas based Allegiant Travel Company (NASDAQ: ALGT), is focused on linking travelers in small cities to world-class leisure destinations such as Las Vegas, Nev., Phoenix, Ariz., Orlando, Fla. and Tampa/St. Petersburg, Fla. Through its subsidiary, Allegiant Air, the Company operates a low-cost, high-efficiency, all-jet passenger airline offering air travel both on a stand-alone basis and bundled with hotel rooms, rental cars and other travel related services. ALGT/G

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Contact: Tyri Squyres, Allegiant Air

phone: 702-851-7370/ e-mail: [email protected]

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Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:39 am

SMX is one airport served by Allegiant, and has no US service, so it may be one of the new routes to IWA.
 
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:12 am

Quoting Stapleton (Reply 7):
I think EUG, MFR, FAT, GJT, COS, ICT and DSM are all un-likely since they all have MULTIPLE daily flights on US Airways to PHX. Allegiant has done a good job of keeping out of the way of the big guys, I don't think they will change that philosophy now.

Sounds like you are right about that. Just a little more info that I'm seeing.

From the Arizona Republic:

“None of the markets we anticipate serving will have any non-stop service anywhere in Arizona,” said Ponder Harrison, managing director of Allegiant Travel Co., the Las Vegas-based parent company of Allegiant Air. “We will build the service once we understand what the demand patterns are.”
http://www.azcentral.com/community/g...cles/0731gr-newairline0731-ON.html

And also from the East Valley Tribune:

But two former Williams Gateway favorites, Bellingham, Wash. and the Chicago area are good bets for Allegiant, Squyres said.

“We have a strong presence in Bellingham and in Chicago-Rockford (Ill.) and five or six other Illinois cities,” Squyres said.

Two start-up airlines — SkyValue and Western — filled up planes full of people traveling from Mesa to those cooler climes earlier this year, but both carriers went belly-up for financial reasons unrelated to the popularity of the routes.

Allegiant, unlike those start-ups, is a full-service airline that operated 20,000 flights last year and has been has been profitable for four years, Harrison said.

Harrison said the company is not announcing all the locations at once because several of the airports in contention for service to Williams Gateway are vying for the business.

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/94213
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:19 am

Quoting National757 (Reply 15):
The remaining 12 routes will all be announced before Sept. 16. A clock on the company’s website will provide a countdown to each new city announcement and can be viewed at www.allegiantair.com.

They are really gonna string it out and make us wait!

anyways, if I were to guess 13 cities, here are my possible ones:
RFD, PIA, ICT, CID, LAN, SBN, BLI, BIL, FSD, SGF, GRB, COS, FNL
 
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:31 am

Quoting National757 (Reply 11):
I guess the Phoenix area is a lot like the Vegas area without the gambling

There are several Indian Casinos including Harah's Ak-Chin and Casino Arizona (Gila River Tribe) but they are not inthe same league as LAS!

Alligiant has a great business model, I was not trying to imply that they are going to be like Western (Mark II), I think their plan is much better and they are a very strong company. I am glad they are coming to IWA.
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:53 am

Quoting Itsnotfinals (Reply 19):
There are several Indian Casinos including Harah's Ak-Chin and Casino Arizona (Gila River Tribe) but they are not inthe same league as LAS!

Since you have first hand knowledge about the PHX area, I will ask you this..if I live in Des Moines or Peoria..why would I want to go to the PHX area instead of Vegas? (Excluding any of my family that may live in AZ) The weather is about the same..hot! hot! hot! Conventions? Spend some time in Scottsdale? Golf?
 
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:06 am

So why is G4 starting a hub in the Pheonix area? I thought they were a vacation airline that had hubs in big vacation cities? Am I missing something? Please shed some light.
 
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Quoting Sacamojus (Reply 21):
So why is G4 starting a hub in the Pheonix area? I thought they were a vacation airline that had hubs in big vacation cities? Am I missing something? Please shed some light.

Isn't the PHX area a major vacation destination (at least in the winter time)??
 
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:16 am

Quoting Sacamojus (Reply 21):
So why is G4 starting a hub in the Pheonix area? I thought they were a vacation airline that had hubs in big vacation cities? Am I missing something? Please shed some light.

There are a lot of big 4 and 5 star resorts in the Scottsdale/Phoenix areas. There are the Fairmont Princess, the Camelback Inn, the Phoenician, the Four Seasons, and many more.

In winter, many head to the desert for the a vacation. Some people head to Palm Springs but others head to Arizona.
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:34 am

I saw an Alligiant plane parked at the ramp around 230 at Gateway today. Was that part of the press release/announcement/media or was that just to bring the ceo and other important people down or maybe for both.
 
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Quoting National757 (Reply 20):
Since you have first hand knowledge about the PHX area, I will ask you this..if I live in Des Moines or Peoria..why would I want to go to the PHX area instead of Vegas?

Besides excellent hotels, resorts and spas in Scottsdale and the numerous golf amenities all over the place, Phoenix also boasts easy access to the Tonto National forest, Grand Canyon, Sedona (painted Desert) and several mountain ranges and lakes.

Phoenix is a lot cheaper than staying on the Vegas strip these days.

There must be something here that resonates even internationally since BA has had a 744 coming in here daily from LHR for a while now.

Also for A.net devotees, Marana /Pinal Air Park is an easy 1 hour 15 Minute drive from IWA , think of all the spotters that will get great fares to come and spot at the airplane "graveyard" now.


I think the main reason is there are many East coast, midwestern,northern US and Canadian transplants here (Maricopa County is now the 3rd largest county in the US behind LA and Cook (Chicago). Most of that growth has occurred since 1990.

I know I have had many Ohio visitors since I moved here , and almost all of my neighbors are from Indiana, Michigan, Ilinois, Kansas, etc.

also, 330 days of sunshine on average doesn't hurt and Winter temps that average 75 with lows of 43-46 in Dec-Jan and 80's and higher from February through November.

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Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 23):
There are a lot of big 4 and 5 star resorts in the Scottsdale/Phoenix areas. There are the Fairmont Princess, the Camelback Inn, the Phoenician, the Four Seasons, and many more.

Not to go off the thread topic, but I am very interested to know what there is to do in Pheonix for vacation? BTW I live in the Roanoke area, which is a G4 city, and maybe taking them to Pheonix if they fly their for vacation.
 
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:01 am

Quoting Sacamojus (Reply 26):
Not to go off the thread topic, but I am very interested to know what there is to do in Pheonix for vacation? BTW I live in the Roanoke area, which is a G4 city, and maybe taking them to Pheonix if they fly their for vacation.

May I recommend:

http://www.phoenixcvb.com/

and

http://www.arizonaguide.com/

are both great resources.

Come for a visit, it's very pretty around here and people are very laid back  Smile
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:11 am

Does anyone know if they are going to announce the routes tomorrow when they debut the 5th Focus City, or are they going to do the "countdown" as well?

From FLL, I would expect:

RFD
FWA
LAN
TOL
ABE
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:20 am

Quoting Itsnotfinals (Reply 25):
I know I have had many Ohio visitors since I moved here ,

Oh yeah...I know many people who have family that live out there and visit at least once a year and they come here once a year. TOL-PHX was a very strong market when ATA flew the route...it was somewhere around 90 pax per day during the 1st and 2nd quarter in 2004 if my mind serves me correctly. Still...G4 isn't going to fly TOL-IWA. I do agree with others though...I don't expect any city that currently has service via US to PHX...sorry COS, not right now. I will put money on RFD, though.  Smile
 
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:45 am

Quoting Itsnotfinals (Thread starter):
The destination cities will be announced at a later date with the first city being announced on Allegiant's Web site, www.allegiantair.com, on August 9.

How come that website comes up a blank white page?

Quoting National757 (Reply 11):
Golf?

Oh yeah! We have a golf course on the ASU Polytechnic campus, which is only 2 minutes away.

Quoting Vivavegas (Reply 6):
I'm sure it's just twenty minutes away (common joke for valley residents, everything is 20 minutes away).

Its about 40 mins to downtown PHX from IWA; an hour to Peoria at the most.

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 23):
There are a lot of big 4 and 5 star resorts in the Scottsdale/Phoenix areas. There are the Fairmont Princess, the Camelback Inn, the Phoenician, the Four Seasons, and many more.

Add the Pointe South Mountain Resort to that list. They are not a 4 or 5 star resort, but an AAA 4 Diamond Resort.

Quoting Itsnotfinals (Reply 25):
I know I have had many Ohio visitors since I moved here

 checkmark  Lots of those people are here now. There are a quite a few from Michigan and Indiana as well.
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:56 am

Quoting Sacamojus (Reply 26):
Not to go off the thread topic, but I am very interested to know what there is to do in Pheonix for vacation?

Many of you are looking at this the wrong way, Phoenix is not like Las Vegas or Florida where there are casinos, theme parks, and beaches, but there is a ton of traffic between the Phoenix area and the markets Alligiant serves. Midwesterners LOVE Phoenix for its warm winter weather, golf, and relative familiarity (lets face it the whole Phoenix metro is one large suburb). Midwesterners of all age groups have moved to the area to look for jobs or a way to beat the horrible winters up here in the great north. So when looking at the market for these flights it will be a lot of VFR traffic in the middle winter. The bad news is Alligiant won't be able to sell as many hotel reservation packages like they would for LAS or Florida, but rental cars will still be selling strong.

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Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:09 pm

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 30):
How come that website comes up a blank white page?

There is a period after the .com. That makes it an invalid active link.

Here is a working link.
http://www.allegiantair.com

They've added a new route countdown clock on the web site. 8 days 21 hours 20 minutes and counting to the next new route announcement.

Also the Allegiant press release says hotel packages at 20 hotels in Phoenix, Scottsdale, Tempe, Mesa and Sedona.

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Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:28 pm

I really think LAN will become one of the destinations. I know a lot of ppl that love AZ and would probably love a direct flight out there. I think many of the destinations will be near the midwest because a lot of (not all) have flights to PHX.

I just was on LAN website as well and there was a Press Release from late last year where it talked about a report and PHX was listed as one of the top destinations that should be a target, and I think they have found a winner.

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Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:31 pm

Quoting Jetlanta (Reply 12):
"turbojet aircraft" Wow, that will be interesting

LOL water wagons, anyone?
 
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:08 pm

What strikes me, is that Phoenix in the winter is anything but a cheap destination, as compared to LAS and the Florida markets. If you've ever booked a room at any of the better resorts in Phoenix, you're aware that the rack rate easily tops $300 a night at many resorts. A package may bring the cost down some, but in moving into Phoenix, it would seem that Allegiant is looking to tap a new market, not really the true budget traveler that we tend to associate with G4 (especially here in FAT where they were born) but rather, someone who has a few more discretionary dollars. That may just improve their system yield - I guess we'll find out when the fares and packages are announced. I would expect that Bellingham will do very, very well. Given the strength of the Canadian dollar, I see heavy demand from from Southern BC to Arizona. There was a time not too long ago, the US was an expensive getaway for the Canadians. Not any longer. I would expect there's pent up demand...

And, as to Phoenix not being a resort destination, I'll take a couple days at the Pointe or any number of other resorts anyday. Beats PSP in my book.
 
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:08 pm

I hope that IWA gets going on parking for the terminal soon.. I know that just with those Las Vegas flights, and the Xtra flights, that small parking lot got pretty full.

I know they added parking across the street, but it's not very large either. If they're talking about only 2 MD80's to a few cities each day, that means that a lot of people will be gone for multiple days, which will make the parking even harder.
 
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:04 pm

I hate to be nit-picky but it is spelled ALLEGIANT, not alligiant. As a stock holder I kinda had to point it out (see the post title).
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:50 pm

I imagine a lot of the passengers will be those with 2nd homes in Arizona and people visiting relatives in the area.

BTW, is it a given than FLL is the 5th base? ONT would make a lot of sense too. I imagine San Bernadino would give them a great deal to get the ball rolling there as well. It's close to Palm Springs and also serves the 4 million + residents of the Inland Empire.
 
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Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:13 pm

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 30):
Its about 40 mins to downtown PHX from IWA; an hour to Peoria at the most.



Quoting RW717 (Reply 37):
I hate to be nit-picky but it is spelled ALLEGIANT, not alligiant. As a stock holder I kinda had to point it out (see the post title).

In my haste to get the scoop I had a typo, and now I can't change the title, please accept my apologies.

Allegiant it is indeed  Smile
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Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:02 am

Quoting MrCoffee (Reply 36):
I hope that IWA gets going on parking for the terminal soon..

They have ample parking in front of the terminal and on the right side of the building as well. Should be enough. Plus, its FREEE!!!!!
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Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:10 am

I think another likely destination would be DLH. There's lots of traffic between Minnesota and Arizona in the winter!
 
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Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:50 am

GFK-IWA, That will not happen but it sure would be nice!
 
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Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:06 am

I'm a bit confused by the consistent usage of the code IWA in this thread, since this is what Sabre says IWA is:

IWA IVANOVA, RUSSIA

Can anybody tell me the correct IATA code for the airport in question?
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Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:12 am

Quoting LH459 (Reply 43):
Can anybody tell me the correct IATA code for the airport in question?

I believe its AZA. IWA is the FAA code.
 
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Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:24 am

I hope that FWA is one of these cities for both IWA and FLL... G4 has done great here in Fort Wayne, and I hope that we get both!
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Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:26 am

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 45):
I hope that FWA is one of these cities for both IWA and FLL... G4 has done great here in Fort Wayne, and I hope that we get both!

I think it will. I also think LAN will because from all I have seen, they have been doing well. Overall traffic is down here, but G4 traffic is still up.
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Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:49 am

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 40):



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 40):

They have ample parking in front of the terminal and on the right side of the building as well. Should be enough. Plus, its FREEE!!!!!

Yeah, I know, I drive by it everyday. But again, it's really not that much. What does there MD-80's hold? There are not that many parking spaces, especially if they're only going to certain destinations for one day, then other's for another.

I've seen it quite full before, yes, even on the side, with the old Xtra flights and the current Vision flights.
 
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Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:14 am

Quoting LH459 (Reply 43):
Can anybody tell me the correct IATA code for the airport in question?

Sure! Here it is: http://www.airnav.com/airport/KIWA

This is not the only thread that has brought up the IWA airport code.

Quoting MrCoffee (Reply 47):

They have some old, old open air hangars next to the terminal that is rusting to bits. They should tear those down and make way for a bigger parking lot, maybe a double floor parking garage like T2 has at PHX.
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Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:55 am

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 48):
hey have some old, old open air hangars next to the terminal that is rusting to bits. They should tear those down and make way for a bigger parking lot, maybe a double floor parking garage like T2 has at PHX.

Yeah, that would probably be a good idea.

I remember at the last couple of Open Houses the airport had, they had diagrams up that showed the 'real' passenger terminal off of Ellsworth. Don't recall what dates it estimated, though.

Looking at their construction updates (http://www.flywga.org/content/PND/ConstructionUpdates.pdf), they mention that construction that is just south of the terminal, which is going to be new parking, so that will help in the meantime.

Either way, it will be nice to have some more choices for those of us that live in Queen Creek. Driving to PHX can take a while.  Smile

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