|Quoting Strathpeffer (Reply 10):|
Were some of Air France and Air Inter -111s not converted to -211s?
No, non of the -111s have been converted.
IIRC, the wing structure is different to the 211, and the wing tip is incapable of upgrade to carry the standard -200 winglet. The -111 engine pylon is also different to the -211, and is 6 inches shorter. So, in short, to convert a -111 to -211 standard would have involved a wing change (or major structural modification) and a change of pylons for the CFM56. Altogether, this would have been uneconomic.
I have happy memories of flying the -111, many uneventful hours plying back and forth between LHR
and sometimes further afield to DUS
etc. The only times that I had trouble with performance were in ABZ
when the temperature was warm (rare!) and the QNH low, and also in ZRH
on a warm day whilst planning for a departure from rwy 28(we could have departed from rwy 16, of course).
|Quoting Ryanair737 (Reply 5):|
They were pretty lousy for BA, they don't have the range with the payload that the 200 model has and therefore BA were limited to where they could send them.
Actually, you are overstating the case. The majority of short haul routes are no problem for the -111, and as I type this 'Busby' (SB
) is on the way to PRG
is on the way back from MXP
is about to set off for NCE
, and SF
is setting off back from LIN
. There are only 4 left out of a current fleet of 69 (of all types) and to suggest that they restrict the operational flexibility of BA
is a little unfair. The -111s have been work horses for nearly 20 years, and the best reason for retiring them, is that they are coming up for major maintenance, and they are less compatible with the IAE powered fleet than desirable parts wise(same with -211), not because they are 'pretty lousy' operationally.