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Pu752
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Pluna Flying Non-stop To MAD

Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:04 am

Im sorry if this has been already posted, but PU is flying 3x weekly non-stop to MAD and 1x weekly via GIG.

Operated by the only 763 (CX-PUB) which is quite near its max range, I remeber Southen Winds flying EZE-MAD or Spanair flying those routes with 763.

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RE: Pluna Flying Non-stop To MAD

Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:31 am

Quoting PU752 (Thread starter):
Operated by the only 763 (CX-PUB) which is quite near its max range, I remeber Southen Winds flying EZE-MAD or Spanair flying those routes with 763.

It's near, but not really close. At 5358 nm still air distance, MVD-MAD on the 763 is certainly possible (767-300ER max range, fully fuelled and with a full PAX load, is 6105 nm). The only problem is that the aircraft will have to operate the route with payload restrictions, because otherwise the payload range would be too low to make a nonstop route like that possible on the 767.
 
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RE: Pluna Flying Non-stop To MAD

Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:41 am

I used to live in Montevideo and I remember seeing those DC-10's coming in to land over my house from Madrid. Not sure if it was a direct flight or via GRU or GIG. Im pretty sure it was non-stop.

The approach to runway 6 was right over my house
 
Pu752
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RE: Pluna Flying Non-stop To MAD

Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:44 am

Quoting Philadelphia1 (Reply 2):
I used to live in Montevideo and I remember seeing those DC-10's coming in to land over my house from Madrid. Not sure if it was a direct flight or via GRU or GIG. Im pretty sure it was non-stop.

Its been always via MAD, IIRC.
 
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RE: Pluna Flying Non-stop To MAD

Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:40 pm

Quoting PU752 (Thread starter):
I remeber Southen Winds flying EZE-MAD or Spanair flying those routes with 763.

The last B767-300 operated by Spanair (JK) was on July 2002.
JK had not become a Star Alliance member at this time.
I guees JK´s MAD-MVD was operated as seasonal flights.
Good luck to PU !!
Regards.
 
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RE: Pluna Flying Non-stop To MAD

Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:19 am

Good for Pluna, MAD continues to be profitable for Latin carriers. Hopeully one day we'll see Pluna in North America.
 
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RE: Pluna Flying Non-stop To MAD

Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:34 am

Quoting Juventus (Reply 5):
Hopeully one day we'll see Pluna in North America.

Long ago PU flew to MIA and JFK.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PLUNA
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Pu752
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RE: Pluna Flying Non-stop To MAD

Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:25 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 4):
The last B767-300 operated by Spanair (JK) was on July 2002.
JK had not become a Star Alliance member at this time.
I guees JK´s MAD-MVD was operated as seasonal flights.
Good luck to PU !!
Regards.

Hey, I was talking about EZE-MAD JK's and Southern Winds flight operated with 763, not in MVD  Smile

Quoting Juventus (Reply 5):
Good for Pluna, MAD continues to be profitable for Latin carriers. Hopeully one day we'll see Pluna in North America.

Lets wait, Im sure it wont take more than 2 years before we see PU at MIA.

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RE: Pluna Flying Non-stop To MAD

Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:45 am

Quoting Juventus (Reply 5):
Good for Pluna, MAD continues to be profitable for Latin carriers. Hopeully one day we'll see Pluna in North America.

Yes, but not high-yielding.

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 1):
It's near, but not really close. At 5358 nm still air distance, MVD-MAD on the 763 is certainly possible (767-300ER max range, fully fuelled and with a full PAX load, is 6105 nm). The only problem is that the aircraft will have to operate the route with payload restrictions, because otherwise the payload range would be too low to make a nonstop route like that possible on the 767.

The significant restrictions will only be suffered on the MAD-MVD leg, because of the headwinds. The plane will fly almost unrestricted to MAD. Just, 2 or 3 PAX will be left out because of restrictions. This has to be made in order to allow fuel for any alternate airport in case something happens.

A4, did EZE-MAD with a 763/ER.

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RE: Pluna Flying Non-stop To MAD

Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:48 am

Quoting MD11junkie (Reply 8):
Yes, but not high-yielding

That's what you get for flying Y-class only. Why don't PU put in Business Class, and make some real money ?
 
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RE: Pluna Flying Non-stop To MAD

Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:59 am

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 9):
Why don't PU put in Business Class, and make some real money ?

PU offers Y and C on the 763.
 
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RE: Pluna Flying Non-stop To MAD

Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:01 am

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 9):
That's what you get for flying Y-class only. Why don't PU put in Business Class, and make some real money ?

All of the ARG/URU-ESP route operators offer Y and C classes.

Real money is in cargo, but those routes are not business but mostly el-cheap-o tourist passengers.

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RE: Pluna Flying Non-stop To MAD

Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:22 am

Quoting MD11junkie (Reply 11):
All of the ARG/URU-ESP route operators offer Y and C classes.

Real money is in cargo, but those routes are not business but mostly el-cheap-o tourist passengers.

Not sure about your last statement, specially regarding Argentina there is a lot of premium traffic due to strong business and political ties between Argentina and Spain, the issue is that the majority of latin america premium pax flies IB J class since they offer a much better product than their latin american counterparts.
 
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RE: Pluna Flying Non-stop To MAD

Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:25 am

Quoting UPPERDECKFAN (Reply 12):
Not sure about your last statement, specially regarding Argentina there is a lot of premium traffic due to strong business and political ties between Argentina and Spain, the issue is that the majority of latin america premium pax flies IB J class since they offer a much better product than their latin american counterparts.

Exactly - IB's C class product is much better. However, their Y product is nothing to die for (actually, I'd rather fly AR), especially being the most expensive airline in the EZE-MAD route.

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RE: Pluna Flying Non-stop To MAD

Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:39 am

Quoting PU752 (Thread starter):
Im sorry if this has been already posted, but PU is flying 3x weekly non-stop to MAD and 1x weekly via GIG.

Because of winds they should continue to do a technical stop some days at GIG. In fact they never advertise this route in Rio, and the reason of the stop was mainly because of cargo as the number of local pax in Rio was never higher than 50.

Quoting PU752 (Reply 10):
PU offers Y and C on the 763.

The C use to be a Premium Economy with same Y service, does it changed ?

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RE: Pluna Flying Non-stop To MAD

Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:46 am

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 14):
Because of winds they should continue to do a technical stop some days at GIG. In fact they never advertise this route in Rio, and the reason of the stop was mainly because of cargo as the number of local pax in Rio was never higher than 50.

So they do or do not sell GIG-MAD tickets?
 
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RE: Pluna Flying Non-stop To MAD

Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:32 am

Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 14):
The C use to be a Premium Economy with same Y service, does it changed ?

Theres a Premiun economy, but not in the 767, its Business Class. But IIRC the DC-10 was that way, business class with Y service.

Quoting Thering (Reply 15):
So they do or do not sell GIG-MAD tickets?

Yes they do.

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