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OHLHD
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RE: Richard Branson Lies!

Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:12 am

Quoting ZakHH (Reply 95):
Let me tell you something: it is better to remain silent and be thought clueless than to speak out and remove all doubt. Like you just did.

We have to be correct:

Sometimes it is better to seem like an idiot than it is to open your mouth and remove all doubt!


 Big grin Could not resist!!! Big grin Big grin
 
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RE: Richard Branson Lies!

Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:12 am

If you dont like em, dont fly em.
 
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RE: Richard Branson Lies!

Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:12 am

hahahaha!

your a funny fellow!

lol! = )
 
deltal1011man
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RE: Richard Branson Lies!

Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:14 am

Quoting ZakHH (Reply 97):
Maybe you should come over here with your buddy Coa747. Then I can show you how to travel from Germany to The Netherlands without border or passport controls, as well as some other special features about The Netherlands that will help you relax...

first never said anything about the passport....but would be glad to go to AMS and get that relaxing stuff when we going?
 
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:16 am

Quoting Sandager (Reply 88):
YOU away from poluting the rest of the world

Ever been to China?
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:17 am

All you VX bashers are just pathetic, but funny  rotfl   rotfl 

Quoting AA7295 (Reply 28):
That's funny, in the few days they have been operating have you flown VX in order to make a call like that?

Have you?

US carriers have flown intra-European routes before, even with a/c based here.

Lan Chile flies MAD-FRA, let's shut them down!
Kuwait Airways flies GVA-CDG/FCO-CDG, let's shut them down!

Seriousely what the hell is wrong with you americans? All that VX is doing is trying to make air travel in the US somewhat bearable, and they bring in a nice set of competition. And if you're so scared for your legacy carriers, there must be something about VX that makes you think that they are a competition to be reckoned with, so in the end, they already must have done something right, their marketing seemes to have worked, and they will be a great carrier.

Oh and as for all that "foreign-owned" bs, if they were foreign-owned , they wouldn't have been allowed to take to the skies in the first place. So stop whining and accept the fact that they're operationall now, and if you dont like them, don't fly them, there are enough people who will.
 
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RE: Richard Branson Lies!

Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:18 am

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 92):
I am pissed because its CABOTAGE!!!!!!

Who is doing the cabotage?  Confused

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 92):
again why is it that everyone has to have PTV or the airline is crappy?

You don't have to have PTVs to be a good airline. Lufthansa have no PTVs on their Y class but rank higher than all US legacy airlines (on Skytrax list).
 
OHLHD
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RE: Richard Branson Lies!

Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:18 am

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 103):
but would be glad to go to AMS and get that relaxing stuff when we going?

Count me in into this funny meet! Big grin Let us take AA7295 with us and I show him what I've been smoking.  Smile

And in order to get a good and civilized conversation together we ask Sabena332 to be our moderator. I am sure we can convince him to come along to AMSBig grin
 
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RE: Richard Branson Lies!

Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:21 am

Quoting Semobeila (Reply 94):
...hmm, still waiting for that source - I think there might be a reason AA7295 did not mention his source from the beginning, nobody would dare to publicly confirm his statement.

See Reply 81.

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 96):

no wrong its not racists i don't like foreign ownership if that store owner is a citizen than we have 0 problem and the wall thing is pretty dam dumb so let it go

It may not be racist. But it's counterproductive. Isolationism is in the vast majority of cases bad for the economy. Case in point being the American car industry 20-30 years ago. Bad cars, bad quality. Let the Japanese in and they created tens of thousands of jobs in the US, not to mention improving quality. What's bad about that?

What are you so upset about? The "Spirit of America" has hardly been affected by the fact a lot of people drive a Nissan instead of a Chevy. You cannot so narrowly define the essence of a nation.

You keep saying things like "It's Cabotage!" but you fail to explain what is so bad about that.


Also, some of us like PTV. If you don't that's fine. If you think VX is counting on PTV to capture market you are mistaken. Note also that there is a homegrown airline using dirty tricks such as PTV and actual smiles. It's called JetBlue.
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RE: Richard Branson Lies!

Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:21 am

Afterburner, DeltaL1011man

You are arguing over someone's subjective opinion that can mean a world to one person but it is worthless to another. There's no way you can judge person's preferences based on someone's subjective review
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RE: Richard Branson Lies!

Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:23 am

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 105):
Seriousely what the hell is wrong with you americans?

To be fair, not all americans (by far) think this way, so although I tend to agree with your views, I would suggest we are more careful with such statements.
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:23 am

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 100):
We have to be correct:
Sometimes it is better to seem like an idiot than it is to open your mouth and remove all doubt!

Now, I was trying some "friendly bashing", but here come the sensitive Finns... Big grin
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deltal1011man
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:24 am

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 107):
Count me in into this funny meet! Let us take AA7295 with us and I show him what I've been smoking.

And in order to get a good and civilized conversation together we ask Sabena332 to be our moderator. I am sure we can convince him to come along to AMS.

good idea just as long as i get the good stuff

you are also on my RU list as well as ZakHH you guys might like VX but u guys can sure put up one hell of and argument plus you guys have really good ideas
no hard feelings man?
 
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RE: Richard Branson Lies!

Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:28 am

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 112):
no hard feelings man?

Not the least. A discussion forum would be the most boring place in the world if we all had the same opinion.
Looking forward to the AMS meeting... Big grin
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:29 am

Quoting Ogre727 (Reply 110):
To be fair, not all americans (by far) think this way, so although I tend to agree with your views, I would suggest we are more careful with such statements.

Yes, thats true and it wasn't my intention, sorry about that  Smile
 
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RE: Richard Branson Lies!

Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:31 am

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 108):
It may not be racist. But it's counterproductive. Isolationism is in the vast majority of cases bad for the economy. Case in point being the American car industry 20-30 years ago. Bad cars, bad quality. Let the Japanese in and they created tens of thousands of jobs in the US, not to mention improving quality. What's bad about that?

nothing you got me there.......i say Starlionblue joins us in AMS and welcome to my RU list

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 108):
Also, some of us like PTV. If you don't that's fine. If you think VX is counting on PTV to capture market you are mistaken. Note also that there is a homegrown airline using dirty tricks such as PTV and actual smiles. It's called JetBlue.

i like them hell i love them(DL 752s ATL-TPA and ATL-MCO)but don't need them

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 108):
The "Spirit of America" has hardly been affected by the fact a lot of people drive a Nissan instead of a Chevy. You cannot so narrowly define the essence of a nation

naaa still got ford nobody like GMC anyways(yes its a joke)
 
OHLHD
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RE: Richard Branson Lies!

Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:32 am

Quoting ZakHH (Reply 111):
Now, I was trying some "friendly bashing", but here come the sensitive Finns...

 Big grin

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 112):
good idea just as long as i get the good stuff

Yes there is some in AMS.  hyper 

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 112):
no hard feelings man?



Of course not. Always good to have a hard discussion from time to time.  Smile
 
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RE: Richard Branson Lies!

Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:38 am

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 96):
no wrong its not racists i don't like foreign ownership if that store owner is a citizen than we have 0 problem and the wall thing is pretty dam dumb so let it go

that is racist and retarded....so you have to be a citizen.ONLY???? you can't be a legal inmigrant or some one doing legal buisness in the US and it be OK with you?!?!?! .....
so how does it work with all the US company owners who have business in other countries..... they shouldn't be doing business in those countries because they are not citizens of that nation???

You are really not thinking through this.....if there was a list of %$#@ users I would put you there...

but of course ....I bet you are one of those who would jump out of their seat if entities or governments of other countries limited the ability for US business owners to do their job over seas...


ohh sorry...the rest of the world doesn't mater......I forgot .....

since you mentioned it....would you like to SUPER SIZE your freedom fries...

unbelievable.....
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RE: Richard Branson Lies!

Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:40 am

Ok lets get some facts straight

VA is 25% foreign owned and 75% owned by investors in the USA which makes it an American carrier.
Would the DOT have let VA fly if this wasn't so..............No so no more bitching about it being foreign!

Richard Branson is the Chairman of the Virgin Group of companies and has every right to be at the launch
of Virgin America.

The CAT I/II/III is issue RB is correct and is also incorrect to be CAT III certified it needs the airport, aircraft and the crew to all be certified.
Which could mean that even some of VA's own pilots might not be certified depending on training

So the Title of RB Lies is a lie in itself

Give VA a chance its about time the big 5 woke up...............Jetblue started the revival let them and VA carry it on
 
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RE: Richard Branson Lies!

Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:42 am

Quoting RIHNOSAUR (Reply 117):
that is racist and retarded....so you have to be a citizen.ONLY???? you can't be a legal inmigrant or some one doing legal buisness in the US and it be OK with you?!?!?! .....

should have worded it better......if they are legal sorry

Quoting RIHNOSAUR (Reply 117):
so how does it work with all the US company owners who have business in other countries..... they shouldn't be doing business in those countries because they are not citizens of that nation???

citizen was a bad word sorry
 
Sandager
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RE: Richard Branson Lies!

Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:43 am

Well I still like the wall idea. It seems more and more attractive to me.



Quoting Dallasnewark (Reply 104):
Ever been to China?

Yes as a matter of fact I have. 3 or for 4 times. And your point with China is? if we are talking pollution I have to dissapoint you. The amazing US of A is still the country in the world who emits the most green house gases. Even worse your lovely President has continously denied any problems with this and doesn't not want to enter into international agreements to ensure a sustainable future where people can exist. Yes China is a growing economy and will soon be the largest economy in the world. They are not there yet.

please correct me if I am wrong BUT the be allowed to operate an air carrier in the US you need the DOT approval right? and you need the be owned 75% by US citizens? (voting stock)
And now Virgin America is real. They operate, right? OK so why not cut the crap and accept it. They live by the rules that DOT has established. SO it is an american carrier. Or is it a problem that some foreigners owns a part of the stock? you don't think the same is true with other american carriers???
 
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RE: Richard Branson Lies!

Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:45 am

Anyone know when NW will cut its DC9s?
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RE: Richard Branson Lies!

Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:45 am

cabotage?!?!??!!! what does cabotage have to do with this? they were granted an aoc by the regulatory bodies. so the powers that be have seen fit to allow them to fly.

i don't like srb myself - but the displeasure with allowing VX to fly seems rather irrational to me. and u've not even flown them as yet to at least claim that their service sucks!
 
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RE: Richard Branson Lies!

Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:45 am

All I have to say is, I can't wait to fly on Virgin America!!

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 96):
anyways i think this thread is pointless i say it should be locked i hope you guys have much better things to do than sit here and talk about this.

I think this thread should stay open and people should continue talking about it. You yourself have sat here and talked about it. So I guess you don't have anything better else to do. Why quit?
 
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:48 am

Quoting Mexicana757 (Reply 123):
I think this thread should stay open and people should continue talking about it. You yourself have sat here and talked about it. So I guess you don't have anything better else to do. Why quit?

i have been on here but i do need to get some sleep(havent had any in two days) so i will be gone for a while try not to bash me to much
 
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:51 am

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 121):
Anyone know when NW will cut its DC9s?

There were talks to phase out the 333 first.
 
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:53 am

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 125):
There were talks to phase out the 333 first.

right they will fly the A330s to the boneyard and a DC-9 will bring them back
but the 9s will go as soon as them and DL merge
 
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:54 am

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 125):
There were talks to phase out the 333 first.

Didn't they also want to phase the 787s out before the DC9s?
 
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:55 am

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 121):
Anyone know when NW will cut its DC9s?

 laughing   laughing   laughing   laughing   laughing   laughing   laughing   laughing 
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BA1985
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RE: Richard Branson Lies!

Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:57 am

Ryanair is an Irish airline loads of UK hubs.....market opening and service people want...go figure
 
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RE: Richard Branson Lies!

Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:57 am

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 115):

nothing you got me there.......i say Starlionblue joins us in AMS and welcome to my RU list

No hard feelings as you say. Discussion is fun.

I'm an immigrant in the USA (yes, legal  Wink ). As I see it, America is in many ways defined by choice. In the US, I can, within rather broad limits, choose how to live and what to buy. That is freedom.

"Buy American" campaigns are sadly often fueled by US manufacturers instead of grass roots sentiment. Pick always the best (relative to budget) and it is hard to go wrong.
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:57 am

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 127):
Didn't they also want to phase the 787s out before the DC9s?

they should go at about the same time
 
OHLHD
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:01 am

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 121):



Quoting OHLHD (Reply 125):



Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 127):



Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 131):

Please, gentlemen, we went off-topic.
 
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RE: Richard Branson Lies!

Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:07 am

Quoting Afterburner (Reply 43):
Do you hope that Americans don't ride Mercedes, wear Rolex on their wrists, wear Armani suits and Gucci shoes, eat Beluga caviar, buy De Beers diamonds for their ladies, and buy Sony Playstation 3 consoles for their kids?

Pretty funny.

Sounds like one limp wristed dude to me. Armani suits and Gucci shoes ... eat Beluga caviar ... Yikes!

Thanks but no thanks. I'll stick to Brooks Brothers suits, Bass shoes, and eat a steak.

(meaning no disrespect here - the image that Afterburner painted was pretty funny by American standards)
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deltal1011man
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:10 am

ok guys im gone for a while but don't worrie i will be back to start it up again have a nice day and try not to bash me to much while im sleeping

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 132):
Please, gentlemen, we went off-topic.

sorry about that
 
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:11 am

Guys, i really feel the thread starter needs a life, but then again hes only 16 to 20 years old, cant expect him to know much.

Mods, did he even get permission from his parents to be on here?

nitin

PS: i bet hes the kind whose solution to everything is "bomb them".
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:12 am

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 132):
Please, gentlemen, we went off-topic.

That was the intention, i think  Wink
 
OHLHD
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RE: Richard Branson Lies!

Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:12 am

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 134):
sorry about that

 Big grin just a joke.

You have to go to bed that early?  duck 
 
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:14 am

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 11):

so Europe is a nation now?

European, North American, Asian, African, etc... is it forbidden to use those terms now?? Ever heard of continents?

[Edited 2007-08-09 18:27:24]
 
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:15 am

I'm against another airline paying rock bottom wages and benefits and hurting the business of the others that actually pay a livable wage to their employees. The ones hurt in the end will be the employees who work for these carriers. Luckily, the US majors are back on solid footing and most are hiring heavily. I think VA will have a tough time attracting quality employees at the payrates they are proposing. The product they offer is basically a copy of Delta's transcon product which will eventually be expanded throughout the fleet. I, for one, would like to see VA along with Skybus, die an early death. Now start an airline with a livable wage and benefits with employees who won't be foisted on the American taxpayer to support, and your competition will be welcome.
 
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:19 am

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 136):
That was the intention, i think

if you had posted that freakin´ bird again I had gone to bed too. Big grin
 
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:19 am

Quoting Sandager (Reply 46):
It isn't really any news that americans are patriots. patriotisme is nice, just it osmetimes turns into stupidity.
Come on, the FAA told what changes had to be made for Virgin America to be allowed to operate. Apparently they now made those changes. So they can't really be majority owned by foreigners can they?



Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 96):

no wrong its not racists i don't like foreign ownership if that store owner is a citizen than we have 0 problem and the wall thing is pretty dam dumb so let it go

So what you're saying is that we should all keep drinking Coca-cola and wear Nike shoes and Lewis jeans in the rest of the world, but Americans should not/are not allowed to fly with a foreign carrier within the US?? Way to go free market economy and liberty!!! America - the land of the "free"

Quoting Dallasnewark (Reply 104):
Ever been to China?

Yes, but look up the numbers... You still produce way more pollution than China or any other nation per citizen...

[Edited 2007-08-09 18:22:26]

[Edited 2007-08-09 18:51:03]
 
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:21 am

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 137):
You have to go to bed that early?

like i said i haven't had sleep in two days so i need to take a nape be back later

Quoting Deaphen (Reply 135):
Guys, i really feel the thread starter needs a life, but then again hes only 16 to 20 years old, cant expect him to know much.

Mods, did he even get permission from his parents to be on here?

yea 16-20 or 26-35 there close or are you talking about me? if you are yes my mommy and daddy did say i can be on here.......age has nothing to do with what i do and do not know
 
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:24 am

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 130):
I'm an immigrant in the USA (yes, legal ).

No you're not! I saw you crossing that unofficial Mexican border...
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:30 am

Quoting OHLHD (Reply 140):
if you had posted that freakin´ bird again I had gone to bed too

I have a new one!

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/8998/emuuf1.jpg

Copyright me Big grin
 
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:42 am

Quoting Coa747 (Reply 85):
Last time I checked I didn't need a passport to fly from Oregon to Texas. The same is not true if I were to fly from Germany to France.

There is no need for passport between Schengen countries. Just your ID card is enough ....

The 15 Schengen countries are: Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Iceland, Italy, Greece, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Spain and Sweden. All these countries except Norway and Iceland are European Union members.

The new EU members are to sign the Schengen treaty soon.
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:59 am

Quoting Raffik (Reply 54):
Well done Virgin America. I hope you show the Americans the levels of service we enjoy here in Europe.
Perhaps the US airlines will be able to learn something from Virgin and increase the comfort and customer care they offer US passengers.

Taking a 5 hour flight on an American flight is like taking the greyhound.
A European airline would be offering complimentary beverages, hot food, films, blankets, pillows etc. And if they can do it profitably then I am sure the American carriers can too!

Virgin American's influence on American carriers is yet to be determined. But at the end of the day American passengers choose price over comfort and amenities. That's been proven time and time again. To be honest I don't think most Americans want high European ticket prices. We tend to prefer to spend our money at the destination, rather than on the trip itself.
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Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:59 am

Quoting Barnesy2006 (Reply 44):
Quoting OA260 (Reply 27):
Geez, you'd think that they'd also have the decency to purchase US-Made B737's

Just like JetBlue then right Confused Confused Confused Confused Confused

You don't take prisoners , do you ?  bigthumbsup 

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 67):
wait America isnt a continent NORTH AMERICA is and yes AMERICA is a country(hints United States Of AMERICA)

Wait .... Is this the same country that was named after a famous EUROPEAN ????

Ah .... Yes.... thats right .

Quote
The Explorer For Whom America Was Named
Amerigo Vespucci will long be remembered as the man America was named after .
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RE: Richard Branson Lies!

Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:14 am

Wow this thread got off topic overnight! My whole point wasn't so much about the foreign ownership thing, which is why I fully disclosed my feelings in the original post. My point was that Branson flat out said that VA was going to be CAT III within a few months and that the major US carriers were not. That is a lie. UA is fully CAT III, even our 737's. I can say with relative certainty that the other major US carriers are the same, with the exception of NW. Branson is a used car salesman at best, and he proved it with this lie.
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RE: Richard Branson Lies!

Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:19 am

Dear All

The Texas Pacific group that bought Quantas and had a shoot at AZ isen´t they American ?
Why should an American Compay be interested in a Non American Airline ?

It´s funny to read AA7295 patriotic writing and also see his Australian flag !

The best way to get some "ordnung" in the American Airline industy is to get rid of one or two legacy Carriers,
Obviusly the ring isen´t big enough for all of them.

Yes I know that you will say, "then we don´t need a nother carrier up there"

But haven´t the legacy carrier had there chans, isen´t it time for some one new to give it a shoot ?



Quoting ManchesterMAN (Reply 75):
Quoting AirNZ (Reply 68):
I'm patiently waiting to hear about this 'source' and admired for both what, and by whom, exactly.

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortu....html

Is this the same CNN who declaried BA was the worst Airline in the World ?

I will stop buying Volvo because they are own buy Ford and go for SAAB, oh no the are own buy GM,
and my Fairchild I have to get rid of that to.

The World would be a less fun place if I had to stick with only Swedish stuff, except the Girls of course.

Cheers

Göran
Radial engine does not leak oil, they only mark there territory
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