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zippyjet
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Questions About Carnival Air Lines?

Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:46 pm

I don't think this has been covered since I've been with A-Net (2001) but here goes. I'm taking a Carnival fun ship cruise, my first at a nice interline/airline employee discount. I remember back in the early and mid 90s Carnival had an airline division. How long were they in business? Where did they fly besides MIA and JFK? If I remember they flew Airbus A 300 birds. Any other aircraft types? What happened to them? Were they just for cruisers? How was their customer service management? How were they to work for? Any Carnival Airline stories? I don't remember Cathy Lee or any other commercials for their airline?

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BTW, which concourse did they fly out of at MIA?
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Questions About Carnival Air Lines?

Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:06 pm

I amsure that I saw Carnival A300 at Filton.

I will check details.

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Questions About Carnival Air Lines?

Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:25 pm

Quoting Zippyjet (Thread starter):
How long were they in business?

You can trace KW roots as far back as 1984 when a company intended for scheduled service was formed under the name "Pacific Interstate Airlines". The airline started charter services in the Las Vegas market.

In 1985, the airline changed its name tp Pacific Inter Air. Two years later it moved east to operate a contract to Freeport as Bahamas Express.

The airline was sold to Carnival Cruise in 1988 and started charter service under the name "Majestic Air". Later the company was renamed to become "Carnival Air Lines". KW operated until 1997 (September IIRC) when it was bought by the new Pan Am which was then operating long-haul low cost flights across the US and needed trafic feed.

Quoting Zippyjet (Thread starter):
Where did they fly besides MIA and JFK?

When they introduced the A300s back in 1994, they signed a deal with IB to provide the Spanish carrier a link between MIA and LAX. KW also operated to SJU.

Quoting Zippyjet (Thread starter):
If I remember they flew Airbus A 300 birds. Any other aircraft types?

Yes, they have had about a dozen A300B4s over the years, plus B737-400s, B737-200s, B727-200s and their original B727-100.
 
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Questions About Carnival Air Lines?

Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:32 pm

I used to work for them for about 6 months on 1995 as a check in and gate agent in Miami. From Miami they flew the A-300 to LAX and JFK, the also flew at that time from MIA to EWR, PAP , ISP and SJU. I do not recall that their passenger were cruise bound. Flights were always full but mainly with O & D type of passenger not too much of connecting traffic, although we got some decent numbers of passenger coming from South America that used Carnival to go to New York. We were really busy down here at the MIA station and running all they long from the check in counter to the gates to do the seat assignment there before boarding the plane. Yes check in was done at the terminal counter, but seat assignment were given to passengers at the gate. If I not mistaken after I left the company on 1996 they merged with the resuscitated PAN AM and you know what happened next!
 
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RE: Questions About Carnival Air Lines?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:05 am

They flew LAX-NAS with A300s.
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RE: Questions About Carnival Air Lines?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:19 pm

Isn't Donald Trump's 727 a former Carnival a/c ?
 
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RE: Questions About Carnival Air Lines?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:29 pm

For a route map and a timetable check out .... departedflights.com
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RE: Questions About Carnival Air Lines?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:49 pm

Quoting Zippyjet (Thread starter):
I remember they flew Airbus A 300 birds. Any other aircraft types?

It's interesting how you ask this question and then insert a picture of Carnival B737 in your post. No, I'm not being picky, I just find it interesting.

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RE: Questions About Carnival Air Lines?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:53 pm

Quoting Levg79 (Reply 7):
Quoting Zippyjet (Thread starter):
I remember they flew Airbus A 300 birds. Any other aircraft types?

It's interesting how you ask this question and then insert a picture of Carnival B737 in your post. No, I'm not being picky, I just find it interesting.

Leo.

LOL, I had the exact quote and was going to ask the same question. You beat me to it, Leo.

Quoting Zippyjet (Thread starter):
I'm taking a Carnival fun ship cruise, my first at a nice interline/airline employee discount

We just came home from a Carnival cruise, the third one we've taken and the only company I've ever cruised with. What ship, what route? I know, not topic relevant but I'm curious.

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RE: Questions About Carnival Air Lines?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:00 pm

A fleet listing of all known aircraft operated by Carnival. Regards.
http://geocities.com/~aeromoe/fleets/carnival.html
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RE: Questions About Carnival Air Lines?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:20 pm

Quoting Zippyjet (Thread starter):
Where did they fly besides MIA and JFK?

Zippyjet:
I found a Carnival Airlines winter timetable eff. 01OCT96 in my collectibles box.
According to the timetable, at that time they flew the B727-200, B737-200, B737-400 and the A300.
The cities shown were the following:
Aguadilla
Fort Lauderdale
Fort Myers
Hartford/Springfield (shows seasonal)
Islip
L.A.
Miami
Nassau
Newark
Newburgh (shows seasonal)
New York JFK (with LGA eff. 19DEC96)
Orlando
Ponce
San Juan
Tampa
Washington Dulles
West Palm Beach

According to the timetable, the A300 routes flown were between:
FLL/LAX, FLL/JFK, LAX/MIA, MIA/JFK, MIA/SJU.
I know for a fact that they once had an A300 doing the EWR/JFK-BQN-PSE route for a while (on alternate dates IIRC).

I flew them once SJU-FLL in APr'96 on a B737-200.
Hope this helps.

[Edited 2007-08-20 14:21:59]
 
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RE: Questions About Carnival Air Lines?

Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:57 pm

Quoting FlagshipAZ (Reply 9):
A fleet listing of all known aircraft operated by Carnival. Regards.
http://geocities.com/~aeromoe/fleets....html

Althought it is a very good site, Aeromoe is not always very accurate despite some informations date back to well before its last update, ten years ago.

Here's Carnival's Airbus fleet details found on the Jet Production list book.

A300B4-103

N407UA -- '124' -- 06/1994 - 03/1995


A300B4-203

N221EA -- '152' -- 02/1994 - 07/1997

N222KW -- '236' -- 11/1994 - 10/1997

N223KW -- '227' -- 12/1994 - 02/1998

N224KW -- '073' -- 12/1994 - 07/1997

N225KW -- '093' -- 06/1995 - 07/1997

N226KW -- '095' -- 07/1995 - 07/1997

N227KW -- '274' -- 04/1996 - 03/1998

N228KW -- '207' -- 05/1996 - 12/1997

N229KW -- '261' -- 09/1996 - 01/1998

YV-160C -- '053' -- 10/1993 - 02/1994 Sub-lsf VIASA.

[Edited 2007-08-20 14:59:34]
 
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RE: Questions About Carnival Air Lines?

Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:27 am

off the top of my head

JFK-BQN-PSE
JFK-MIA
JFK-FLL
JFK-NAS

EWR-BQN-PSE
EWR-FLL

MIA-LAX
MIA-SJU

LAX-FLL-SJU
BDL-IAD-FLL-SJU

FLL-HPN
FLL-ISP
 
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RE: Questions About Carnival Air Lines?

Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:35 am

In '97 I booked a ticket on the new Pan Am from MDW to MIA roundtrip. A week before my trip I got a letter in the mail stating that my flight "would be flown by our partner, Carnival Air." It was an old high density 727-200 which had seats for about 175 but only had about 90 people on the plane in both directions. Both flights were delayed over two hours, and the MIA-MDW leg was on the "Miami Heat" logo jet. All that being said, the flights were very nice, with excellent service...full meals, of course...and man was it ever fun taking off from MDW on a 72S!
 
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RE: Questions About Carnival Air Lines?

Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:33 am

I had flown a Carnival 727-200 back in 1995 from RDU to PHL. Midway(JI) had chartered it for some flights due to the A-320s not being in service in time for the schedule.

It was decent and the crews were friendly.
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