CV990
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The Lockheed Jetstar And "Kelly" Johnson!

Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:25 pm

Hi!

I just received my latest "Airliners World" and I was really glad to see an arthicle about the Lockheed Jetstar. I remember in late 70's early 80's to see a few of those unique biz-jet's flying to LIS. I have found memories of seeing Jetstars from German Air Force, USAF and even a few private ones...the one I recall better was a Readers Digest one that used to be a "regular client" of LIS. Now that 50 years passed since the first prototype flew it also came to my mind the power "Kelly" Johnson had in Lockheed....I think this AVIATION MAN deserves the prize of - "THE MOST RADICAL AVIATION DESIGNER OF THE WORLD!" - once a while I like to look to the past of this great aviation hero and it always come to my mind that he really did a lot of changes in our aviation world...why? Maybe because he always was a step ahead of aviation guys...and more I look to his designs more I feel that! I was looking to all those unique designs that "Kelly" Johnson did...the Constellation/Super Constellation/Starliner, Hercules, Orion, Jetstar, Starfighter, Shooting Star, Starfire, Neptune....!
Hey, we might discuss some radical designs of this wonderful guy but...coming back to the Jetstar design...where can we find a biz-jet with 4 engines "VC-10" style??? No one ever had that idea BEFORE "Kelly" Johnson!
My big respect to this awesome person and aviation guy!
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RE: The Lockheed Jetstar And "Kelly" Johnson!

Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:04 pm

Kelly Johnson's autobiography "More Than My Share of It All" is a pretty interesting read, particularly if you are a fan of him. I found a copy ten years ago or so and recall enjoying it quite a bit. I recently also got my 12 year old son to read it.

You can find the used paperback version through Amazon - they seem to go for $11 or so. What is a bit odd is that a few of the used book retailers are selling copies of the paperback for $50 - $150. They need to put down the crack pipe...
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RE: The Lockheed Jetstar And "Kelly" Johnson!

Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:38 pm

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RE: The Lockheed Jetstar And "Kelly" Johnson!

Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:48 pm

Quoting CV990 (Thread starter):
coming back to the Jetstar design...where can we find a biz-jet with 4 engines "VC-10" style???

The original two prototypes of the Jetstar were powered by TWO Bristol Orpheus engines, However, that does not detract from the fact that Kelly Johnson was a "great aircraft designer" and also a very "fine man". I had the pleasure of meeting Kelly a couple of times. By the way you left off your list his greatest accomplishment, the A-12, YF-12 and SR-71 family.
 
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RE: The Lockheed Jetstar And "Kelly" Johnson!

Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:06 am

Quoting 474218 (Reply 3):
e original two prototypes of the Jetstar were powered by TWO Bristol Orpheus engines,

There was a guy trying to reengine Jetstars (all types) with CF34s but only the prototype was produced before the plug was pulled on the project. By the time he was doing it, most of the fleet of L1329s was worn out.
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RE: The Lockheed Jetstar And "Kelly" Johnson!

Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:01 pm

Quoting 474218 (Reply 3):
By the way you left off your list his greatest accomplishment, the A-12, YF-12 and SR-71 family.

Either that, or he wan't into military aviation.

Though, Kelly Johnson was famous for the blackbird jets as nothing like it existed before, or sadly, even since. There has yet to (officially) be a military reason to make something like that again; probably cheaper to bring it out of mothballs.
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RE: The Lockheed Jetstar And "Kelly" Johnson!

Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:46 pm

Quoting 474218 (Reply 3):
However, that does not detract from the fact that Kelly Johnson was a "great aircraft designer" and also a very "fine man".

I met him only once and didn't get a chance to get feel for him. However, most of the engineers I know that worked for him thought he was a mean SOB.

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