Here is it's freighter cousin:
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First Cubana Pax Tu-204
Seen here at MAKS 2007, a Tu-204-120E (CU-TI70I) destined for Cubana:
Here is it's freighter cousin:
Regards,
MD90fan
Here is it's freighter cousin:
Regards,
MD90fan
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RE: First Cubana Pax Tu-204
Photo © Andrei Pechenkin
Indeed, a very nice looking plane... could be called "Airbuski A321"
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The Cubana Airbus A321 looks really nice .......errr I mean the TU-204 ...LOL....
Anyway nice looking AC and congrats to CU. Wouldnt mind flying on one. Anyone got any interior pics???
Anyway nice looking AC and congrats to CU. Wouldnt mind flying on one. Anyone got any interior pics???
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| Quoting FlySSC (Reply 1): Indeed, a very nice looking plane... could be called "Airbuski A321" |
Looks more like a pirated copy of the 757 to me.
Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
RE: First Cubana Pax Tu-204
Dimensions :
Tu 204
Wing span 41.80m (137ft 2in), length 46.10m (151ft 3in), height 13.90m (45ft 7in). Wing area 182.4m2 (1963.4sq ft).
A 321
Wing span 34.09m (111ft 10in), length 44.51m (146ft 0in), height 11.76m (38ft 7in). Wing area 123.0m2 (1320sq ft).
B 757
Wing span 38.05m (124ft 10in), length 47.32m (155ft 3in), height 13.56m (44ft 6in). Wing area 185.3m2 (1994sq ft).
Tu 204 / B757 :
TU 204 / A321 :
Tu 204
Wing span 41.80m (137ft 2in), length 46.10m (151ft 3in), height 13.90m (45ft 7in). Wing area 182.4m2 (1963.4sq ft).
A 321
Wing span 34.09m (111ft 10in), length 44.51m (146ft 0in), height 11.76m (38ft 7in). Wing area 123.0m2 (1320sq ft).
B 757
Wing span 38.05m (124ft 10in), length 47.32m (155ft 3in), height 13.56m (44ft 6in). Wing area 185.3m2 (1994sq ft).
Tu 204 / B757 :
Photo © Andrei Pechenkin |  Photo © Jan Severijns - AirTeamImages |
TU 204 / A321 :
 Photo © Pereslavtsev Alex - Russian AviaPhoto Team |  Photo © Andreas Müller - Spotterteam Graz |
RE: First Cubana Pax Tu-204
Which routes will serve the Tupolev Tu-204?
Supposed to be domestic (SCU and HOG), Canada, Dominican Republic and Mexico. Any announced route with schedules?
Gerard
Supposed to be domestic (SCU and HOG), Canada, Dominican Republic and Mexico. Any announced route with schedules?
Gerard
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For me it looks more like a 757 with the A320 nose, lovely plane anyway.
Are this birds with an english cockpit and only 2 man crew, like the IL-96-300's that they already got??
Are this birds with an english cockpit and only 2 man crew, like the IL-96-300's that they already got??
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| Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 4): Looks more like a pirated copy of the 757 to me. |
You hit it right on, "a pirated 757".
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I had the chance to fly on a TU 204 twice, with Air Cairo on BEY-SSH and SSH-BCN. It is a great powerful aircraft with really a "western aircraft look" inside.
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RE: First Cubana Pax Tu-204
| Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 6): Which routes will serve the Tupolev Tu-204? Supposed to be domestic (SCU and HOG), Canada |
Would they let the plane fly over US airspace?
"Truth is more of a stranger than fiction." Mark Twain
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| Quoting B752fanatic (Reply 10): Would they let the plane fly over US airspace? |
Why Not ? Because it's a Russian made airplane ? or because it's Cubana ?
In any case, Cubana is already flying to Canada ... and Russian made airplane already fly over US airspace and even land in the U.S !
Cubana Tu-154 at JFK :
Photo © Joe Pries - ATR Team
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| Quoting B752fanatic (Reply 10): Would they let the plane fly over US airspace? |
Why on earth wouldn't they?
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Nice. 
Now will this fill the void that Cubana has for medium range aircraft?
They already have the IL-62 and IL-96 for longhaul and were using them for short haul routes. The Yak-42D doesn't fly to Toronto.
Now will this fill the void that Cubana has for medium range aircraft?
They already have the IL-62 and IL-96 for longhaul and were using them for short haul routes. The Yak-42D doesn't fly to Toronto.
Bring back the Concorde
RE: First Cubana Pax Tu-204
Don't forget they have ordered 3 An-148.
I think they will use them on domestic and caribean routes.
Tu-204 will fly to Canada and South America.
Il-96 to Europe and sometimes on charter flights to Canada to bring more toursists.
I will fly from Caracas to Havana and return next year (May). Hope to fly the Tu-204 and Il-96!
I think they will use them on domestic and caribean routes.
Tu-204 will fly to Canada and South America.
Il-96 to Europe and sometimes on charter flights to Canada to bring more toursists.
I will fly from Caracas to Havana and return next year (May). Hope to fly the Tu-204 and Il-96!
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What's Cubana's fleet right now? And how many new aircraft are they expecting?
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| Quoting SIBILLE (Reply 15): Don't forget they have ordered 3 An-148. I think they will use them on domestic and caribean routes. Tu-204 will fly to Canada and South America. Il-96 to Europe and sometimes on charter flights to Canada to bring more toursists. I will fly from Caracas to Havana and return next year (May). Hope to fly the Tu-204 and Il-96! |
What about the IL-62?
Their IL-62s are one of the last build and are rather new with lots of life left in them.
Bring back the Concorde
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I would have preferred to see their colors on a B757, but that's OK. Good option for CUBANA!
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HI
Can we expect that beauty here in MEX?
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AeroMexico777
Can we expect that beauty here in MEX?
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AeroMexico777
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| Quoting AeroMexico777 (Reply 19): Can we expect that beauty here in MEX? |
No doubt they will go to MEX.
Bring back the Concorde
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How are they paying for the aircraft (i.e., how do the Russian sell the stuff)? In Russian currency, in USD or as part of a barter deal.
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Non-Russian country buying Russian aircraft... if only more companies could do this!
(More Russian planes in our skies!)
(More Russian planes in our skies!)
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I can't say I'm all that excited though, the Tu204 in Cubana's mostly white scheme looks too western. Like some A321, 757 or something. I hope it doesn't replace the IL62s (although it probably will) on those routes around the neighborhood.
Wow I didn't even know this. When did they order it?
That's one small jet that isn't your typical boring twin. T-tail, wing on top of fuselage. Now that's cool.
Cubana is flying more Russian types than Aeroflot right now lol
| Quoting SIBILLE (Reply 15): Don't forget they have ordered 3 An-148. |
Wow I didn't even know this. When did they order it?
That's one small jet that isn't your typical boring twin. T-tail, wing on top of fuselage. Now that's cool.
Cubana is flying more Russian types than Aeroflot right now lol
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| Quoting B752fanatic (Reply 10): Would they let the plane fly over US airspace? |
Certainly.
| Quoting FlySSC (Reply 11): ... and Russian made airplane already fly over US airspace and even land in the U.S ! |
In the case of CU, a landing in the US would have two reasons:
1. Diversion (which is highly unlikely)
2. VIP flight to the United Nations (just like IR did for last year's UN general assembly)
Remember the AN-24 that is stored in Florida (I believe in FLL). After the aircraft landed in the US, it was immediately repossessed for auction (AFAIK this may be a consequence of the trade embargo).
| Quoting Superfly (Reply 14): Now will this fill the void that Cubana has for medium range aircraft? They already have the IL-62 and IL-96 for longhaul and were using them for short haul routes. The Yak-42D doesn't fly to Toronto. |
I'd say it will fill the void for medium capacity aircraft, a void that was left after the TU-154s were phased out. Remember that CU also operates Irish registered A320s through an ACMI from TA.
| Quoting SIBILLE (Reply 15): Don't forget they have ordered 3 An-148. |
Will those replace the Yak-42Ds?
| Quoting Superfly (Reply 17): What about the IL-62? |
Technically it can land in the US, no matter which operator, but the problem here is noise. The IL-62M (the ones with the four Soloviev D-30s) is barely, if not at all, Chapter 3 noise compliant, so if one of them were to land in the US, the landing fees could go way up because of the noise issue. It would be worse with the original IL-62 model with the Kuznetsov NK-8 engines (aircraft with those engines are banned from EU airspace for noise reasons).
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| Quoting Airliner777 (Reply 18): I would have preferred to see their colors on a B757, but that's OK. Good option for CUBANA! |
Tell your Government to stop the embargo.
Flying high and low
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I'm sure about the 3 An-148 order but I'm not sure about a MA-60 order.
I read an article about MA-60 for Cubana a few month ago (don't remember if in a forum or a magazine).
An-148 could replace Yak-42 and MA-60 replace An-24.....
About Il-62, I think they need a long range aircraft with medium passenger capacity. Il-96 must be to big for some routes, so they still keep flying a least one or two Il-62 till they have found an other aircraft.
Could we dream of Tu-204-300?????
I read an article about MA-60 for Cubana a few month ago (don't remember if in a forum or a magazine).
An-148 could replace Yak-42 and MA-60 replace An-24.....
About Il-62, I think they need a long range aircraft with medium passenger capacity. Il-96 must be to big for some routes, so they still keep flying a least one or two Il-62 till they have found an other aircraft.
Could we dream of Tu-204-300?????
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| Quoting SIBILLE (Reply 27): so they still keep flying a least one or two Il-62 till they have found an other aircraft. |
That's good to know.
I think by the time the IL-62s get too old (10-15+ years from now), a new government might be in place and I doubt they'll be buying Russian/Ukrianian aircraft.
Bring back the Concorde
RE: First Cubana Pax Tu-204
| Quoting SIBILLE (Reply 27): An-148 could replace Yak-42 |
That's what I was thinking, hence my earlier question. I mean, the Yak-42Ds, while still an important workhorse for CU, is slowly becoming too loud for today's standards and with Chapter IV noise regulations coming up. Plus they are probably gas guzzlers and will eventually become too expensive to operate.
Sometimes the only thing more dangerous than a question is an answer. - Ferengi Rule of Acquisition 208
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Like it has been said in other Russian-manufacturer posts previous, it is good to see an industry that was so dominant in the '60's and suffered tremendously in the last two or three decades, to climb back out and start making a more featured appearance in the new aircraft business.
Agreed that the newer aircraft are more and more like their western counterparts, but, it is a proven design, why fudge with it?!
A great deal for both Tupolev and Cubana.
Agreed that the newer aircraft are more and more like their western counterparts, but, it is a proven design, why fudge with it?!
A great deal for both Tupolev and Cubana.
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Sweet! Looks great, can't wait to see it at...oh, yes...never mind!
Really though, the Tu-204 is a slick looking plane. Too bad they aren't more prolific!
Really though, the Tu-204 is a slick looking plane. Too bad they aren't more prolific!
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| Quoting LTU932 (Reply 24): Certainly. |
Cool, I asked not because I thought they shouldn't just because I thought since the cold war had restarted if they were any restrictions on these russian built aircraft overflying American soil.
But I forgot that the IL's were already doing it!
"Truth is more of a stranger than fiction." Mark Twain
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The 204 is, in my highly unexpert opinion, the best looking aircraft of all time.
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| Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 23): Cubana is flying more Russian types than Aeroflot right now lol |
Looks like Cubana is flying more Russian types than almost any Russian : ) Only Rossiya Airlines is ahead.
Rossiya Airlines: Tu134, Tu154, Il86, Il96, Tu214, Il62, Yak40 - 6 types
Cubana: Il86, Il62, Yak42, Tu204, An24 (lets consider Antonov being "Russian" type) - total 5 types
Aeroflot: Il96, Tu134, Tu154 - 3 types
S7: Il86, Tu154 - 2 types
Transaero: Tu214 - 1 type
Utair: Tu134, Tu154, An24, Yak40 - 4 types
Domodedovo Airlines: Il96, Il62, Tu154 - 3 types
KrasAir: Il86, Il96, Tu154, Tu2x4 - 4 types
VladAvia: Tu154, Tu204, Yak40, An24 - 4 types
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Here we go again. It has two wings and two engines - oh my God, it must be a rip-off of another plane. 
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| Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 31): Sweet! Looks great, can't wait to see it at...oh, yes...never mind! |
Take a vacation to CUN or SDQ, and you may see them there in the future.
Or you can fly down to GUA and take CU's Yak-42s to SJO (if GUA allows 5th Freedom Rights).Sometimes the only thing more dangerous than a question is an answer. - Ferengi Rule of Acquisition 208
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| Quoting Superfly (Reply 28): Quoting SIBILLE (Reply 27):so they still keep flying a least one or two Il-62 till they have found an other aircraft. That's good to know. I think by the time the IL-62s get too old (10-15+ years from now), a new government might be in place and I doubt they'll be buying Russian/Ukrianian aircraft. |
Are the Il-62s flying on a scheduled base?
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Cubana has one of the worst safety records in the world. Those russian made a/c fall out of the sky like coconuts.
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| Quoting Rlorenzo24 (Reply 43): Cubana has one of the worst safety records in the world. Those russian made a/c fall out of the sky like coconuts. |
Source please.
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| Quoting A350 (Reply 42): Are the Il-62s flying on a scheduled base? |
Yes, Off-hand, Nassau and Santo Domingo get them.
| Quoting Rlorenzo24 (Reply 43): Cubana has one of the worst safety records in the world. Those russian made a/c fall out of the sky like coconuts. |
Only 36 posts and your posting this rubbish already?
| Quoting AeroMexico777 (Reply 19): Can we expect that beauty here in MEX? |
Yes, I'm pretty sure Guatemala City, Nassau, San Jose and Santo Domingo will get them too, not to mention the usual Canadian suspects.
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| Quoting MD90fan (Reply 45): Yes, Off-hand, Nassau and Santo Domingo get them. |
I believe GRU may also have scheduled IL-62 service. Don't know about CCS, though I presume CCS is only getting the IL-96.
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| Quoting LTU932 (Reply 47): I believe GRU may also have scheduled IL-62 service |
Cubana hasn't flown to GRU since early 2005. IIRC they stopped when TAM began 2x weekly charters to HAV.
| Quoting LTU932 (Reply 47): Don't know about CCS, though I presume CCS is only getting the IL-96. |
CCS gets everything! lol IL-96 (to "ferry doctors"), IL-18s, occasional Yak-42s
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