The Yak42 is a little scary. Have seen some rough models in W Africa.
The An-24 is a workhorse that I would trust over the MA-60 any time.
The MA-60 is a pretty aircraft on the outside with some of the WORST manufacter support making them unsupportable and hence unsafe within a few months of acquisition. Even getting the parts for them can be a challange.
I would like to see evidence of any airline that has successfully operated the MA-60 for any significant amount of time outside China and been audited successfully by any serious regulatory agency (That excludes Zimbabwae)
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RE: First Cubana Pax Tu-204
| Quoting MD90fan (Reply 49): Cubana hasn't flown to GRU since early 2005. |
I see. What about GIG? Is GIG served by CU as scheduled service or just for the occasional charters, like during the Panamerican Games this year?
| Quoting MD90fan (Reply 49): CCS gets everything! lol IL-96 (to "ferry doctors"), IL-18s, occasional Yak-42s |
Damn, an IL-18? I never thought CU would fly their IL-18s that long, and only use the IL-96 for mostly "prestige" reasons.
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RE: First Cubana Pax Tu-204
| Quoting ACVitale (Reply 50): The MA-60 is a pretty aircraft on the outside with some of the WORST manufacter support making them unsupportable and hence unsafe within a few months of acquisition. Even getting the parts for them can be a challange. I would like to see evidence of any airline that has successfully operated the MA-60 for any significant amount of time outside China and been audited successfully by any serious regulatory agency (That excludes Zimbabwae) |
Lao Airlines seems to be happy with their two MA-60. They have to more on order (+ 2 ARJ21)
Here is the link about 4 MA60 order for Cuba.
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...onitoring-system-improvements.html
RE: First Cubana Pax Tu-204
| Quoting A350 (Reply 42): Are the Il-62s flying on a scheduled base? |
Yes, I flew one out of Cancun.
| Quoting ACVitale (Reply 50): I would like to see evidence of any airline that has successfully operated the MA-60 for any significant amount of time outside China and been audited successfully by any serious regulatory agency (That excludes Zimbabwae) |
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RE: First Cubana Pax Tu-204
| Quoting SIBILLE (Reply 52): Lao Airlines seems to be happy with their two MA-60. They have to more on order (+ 2 ARJ21) |
Here is the link
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...t-deal-for-arj21-regional-jet.html
RE: First Cubana Pax Tu-204
| Quoting LTU932 (Reply 51): Damn, an IL-18? I never thought CU would fly their IL-18s that long, |
The IL-18 is not in regular passenger service. They have one listed in their name but it is not flying and if it is, it is not carrying fare paying passengers.
| Quoting SIBILLE (Reply 52): Lao Airlines seems to be happy with their two MA-60. They have to more on order (+ 2 ARJ21) |
You beat me to it (I am on a slow computer).
I saw their's in Bangkok earlier this year. I will fly on one on my next trip to Asia.
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RE: First Cubana Pax Tu-204
| Quoting LTU932 (Reply 51): I see. What about GIG? Is GIG served by CU as scheduled service or just for the occasional charters, like during the Panamerican Games this year? |
That ended Cubana's service to Brazil, of course they periodically fly there to bring Cuban workers home and for the occasional charter.
| Quoting Superfly (Reply 55): The IL-18 is not in regular passenger service. |
They withdrew it from use early this year (January or February), but Aerocaribbean flies it to CCS on freight runs IIRC.
http://www.devanwells.blogspot.com/
RE: First Cubana Pax Tu-204
So does the Y-7/MA-60/A-24 enjoy parts and support commonality (Excluding Engines and Avionics) if so that may be how Lao Aviation is getting support?
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RE: First Cubana Pax Tu-204
| Quoting Superfly (Reply 55): The IL-18 is not in regular passenger service. They have one listed in their name but it is not flying and if it is, it is not carrying fare paying passengers. |
I seem to remember there was a member of this forum who was able to book a ticket for a round-trip in February/March of this year on the Il-18 out of HAV. I believe it's only used during the high season and, even then, it's mostly for charters.
Failing that, you can try to fly the Il-18 of Daalo airlines, or on one of the weekly Air Koryo flights from Beijing to Pyongyang
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RE: First Cubana Pax Tu-204
| Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 58): Failing that, you can try to fly the Il-18 of Daalo airlines, or on one of the weekly Air Koryo flights from Beijing to Pyongyang |
I was refering to Cubana but thanks for the update. I can't fly in to North Korea. Our government doesn't allow it and unlike Cuba, Americans aren't allowed to enter.
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RE: First Cubana Pax Tu-204
| Quoting Superfly (Reply 60): I was refering to Cubana but thanks for the update. I can't fly in to North Korea. Our government doesn't allow it and unlike Cuba, Americans aren't allowed to enter. |
If you really want to go, they do allow it these days, but it's only been in the last couple of years that it's possible. There are special tours which allow Americans entry, see a bit of the country and also spectate on the 'Mass Games'. Try http://www.koryogroup.com/ for more information
Fingers crossed for the Il-18 still doing the occasional flight in Cuba, I'm heading over there early next year to try and bag a few interesting aircraft and most of all to see Havana!
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RE: First Cubana Pax Tu-204
| Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 61): If you really want to go, they do allow it these days |
Thanks but I have no desire to visit North Korea.
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RE: First Cubana Pax Tu-204
| Quoting LH648 (Reply 35): Looks like Cubana is flying more Russian types than almost any Russian : ) Only Rossiya Airlines is ahead. Rossiya Airlines: Tu134, Tu154, Il86, Il96, Tu214, Il62, Yak40 - 6 types Cubana: Il86, Il62, Yak42, Tu204, An24 (lets consider Antonov being "Russian" type) - total 5 types Aeroflot: Il96, Tu134, Tu154 - 3 types S7: Il86, Tu154 - 2 types Transaero: Tu214 - 1 type Utair: Tu134, Tu154, An24, Yak40 - 4 types Domodedovo Airlines: Il96, Il62, Tu154 - 3 types KrasAir: Il86, Il96, Tu154, Tu2x4 - 4 types VladAvia: Tu154, Tu204, Yak40, An24 - 4 types |
| Quoting SIBILLE (Reply 36): Domodedovo has (or had) Yak-42. Kras Air is operating both Tu-204 and 214. |
Is'nt there a number of smaller Russian airlines that were not mentioned on these lists that still operate a decent number of Tu134 and 154 aircrafts?
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RE: First Cubana Pax Tu-204
| Quoting IADCRJ (Reply 63): Is'nt there a number of smaller Russian airlines that were not mentioned on these lists that still operate a decent number of Tu134 and 154 aircrafts? |
There's an incredibly large number actually, so many throughout Russia and the ex soviet block countries in fact, that it's just about impossible to type them all out. Most of these though only operate a few types, often a combination of the TU-154 and 134 or Yaks - relatively few have any more than three types in their fleet.
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RE: First Cubana Pax Tu-204
| Quoting MD90fan (Reply 45): Yes, I'm pretty sure guatemala City, Nassau, San Jose and Santo Domingo will get them too, not to mention the usual Canadian suspects. |
That would be great to see this beautiful airplane here in Guatemala City.
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RE: First Cubana Pax Tu-204
| Quoting Juanchito (Reply 66): That would be great to see this beautiful airplane here in Guatemala City. |
If SJO gets it, it's very certain that GUA gets it as well, since both destinations are served on a triangular routing (HAV-GUA-SJO-HAV).
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