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Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sun Sep 09, 2007 12:27 am

I thought I would start a new thread as the last one was at nearly 300 replys.

I was at MAN yesterday for the first time since May and had a few surprises-

SV777 - I knew SV was flying to MAN but I was not expecting to see a 777

Onur air - 3 Onur air departure in about an hour. Never seen one before. Anyone know why?

Delta 767 - 2 767's at MAN at once. Again anyone know why?
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sun Sep 09, 2007 12:57 am

Quoting Ncfc99 (Thread starter):
SV777 - I knew SV was flying to MAN but I was not expecting to see a 777

You wouldn't of seen it go as its had to nightstop as it had a little meeting with an airbridge, damage to engine cowling I'm told, will have a look at it tomorrow, didn't get chance today.

Quoting Ncfc99 (Thread starter):
Onur air - 3 Onur air departure in about an hour. Never seen one before. Anyone know why?

Onur Air operate 3 flights on a Friday 2 to DLM, 1 to AYT operated by mixed A321/AB6 equipment.

Quoting Ncfc99 (Thread starter):
Delta 767 - 2 767's at MAN at once. Again anyone know why?

Daily ATL and JFK services! They are always down together. ATL STA0940 764, JFK STA0855 763

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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sun Sep 09, 2007 1:12 am

Quoting Ncfc99 (Thread starter):
Delta 767 - 2 767's at MAN at once. Again anyone know why?

Should have been a 767-300 (DL155 JFK-bound) and a 767-400 (DL065 ATL bound). The JFK flight will soon become a 757-200 flight.

Hope this helps!
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sun Sep 09, 2007 1:22 am

Quoting Jetset7E7 (Reply 1):
Onur Air operate 3 flights on a Friday 2 to DLM, 1 to AYT operated by mixed A321/AB6 equipment.



Quoting Jetset7E7 (Reply 1):
Daily ATL and JFK services! They are always down together. ATL STA0940 764, JFK STA0855 763



Quoting Boeing74741R (Reply 2):
Should have been a 767-300 (DL155 JFK-bound) and a 767-400 (DL065 ATL bound). The JFK flight will soon become a 757-200 flight.

The only one of the 5 flights mentioned that i knew about was the ATL flight. And I thought I knew a fair bit about MAN.  banghead  Thanks for some answers.

Quoting Jetset7E7 (Reply 1):
You wouldn't of seen it go as its had to nightstop as it had a little meeting with an airbridge, damage to engine cowling I'm told, will have a look at it tomorrow, didn't get chance today.

You're right, I thought it was having a long turn as I left mid afternoon.
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sun Sep 09, 2007 2:37 am

Quoting Ncfc99 (Reply 3):
The only one of the 5 flights mentioned that i knew about was the ATL flight. And I thought I knew a fair bit about MAN. Thanks for some answers.

Should check out Ringway Reports, it shows whats visited on certain days, and has a log of the aircraft thats visited on scheduled services, special charters, and cargo flights.

Quoting Ncfc99 (Reply 3):
You're right, I thought it was having a long turn as I left mid afternoon.

I will try and sneak a picture tomorrow to show you, its if not moved from where its parked.

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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:31 am

Does anyone know if it's feasible to do MAN-SYD using the oneworld alliance and avoiding LHR? Come up with an "interesting" possibilty of MAN-HEL-HKG-SYD which I believe is around 24 hrs long which compares quite well with doing BA/QF, SQ or EK services.

Timings of the "new" route:
MAN dept 1115 / HEL arr 1600 dept 1650 / HKG arr 0725 dept 0900 / SYD arr 2010 (all times are local)
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:38 am

Quoting David_itl (Reply 5):
Does anyone know if it's feasible to do MAN-SYD using the oneworld alliance and avoiding LHR?

Manchester - Helsinki - (Japan) - Sydney on AY and JL
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:41 am

Quoting David_itl (Reply 5):
MAN dept 1115 / HEL arr 1600 dept 1650 / HKG arr 0725 dept 0900 / SYD arr 2010 (all times are local)

Little time between the MAN and the HKG flight. only 50minutes. Can you make that connection in HEL.??
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:50 am

Quoting B747forever (Reply 7):
Can you make that connection in HEL.??

Yup. Potentially. Agreed - it's tight though.
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sun Sep 09, 2007 6:05 am

Quoting David_itl (Reply 5):
Does anyone know if it's feasible to do MAN-SYD using the oneworld alliance and avoiding LHR? Come up with an "interesting" possibilty of MAN-HEL-HKG-SYD which I believe is around 24 hrs long which compares quite well with doing BA/QF, SQ or EK services.

MAN-ORD-LAX or SFO-SYD on AA/QF......? I'm planning to do this next time I go to Oz but it's probably the more expensive option.
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sun Sep 09, 2007 6:10 am

From 08 should be able to do MAN-HKG-SYD on CX.
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:44 am

Wouldn't nabk on that! Unless you know something we don't!
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:46 am

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 11):
Wouldn't nabk on that! Unless you know something we don't!

I'm already working out my finances and planning annual leave on the back of that!
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:01 am

VE are to start Manchester to Milan daily service from end of Octover, according to sources.

There is also rumour of a service to Bucahaarest starting this winter, too.
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:33 am

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 13):
There is also rumour of a service to Bucahaarest starting this winter, too.

Blue Air? I can't see Tarom coming back to Manchester, because they probably couldn't compete against Wizzair from LPL.
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sun Sep 09, 2007 4:40 pm

Quoting David_itl (Reply 5):
Does anyone know if it's feasible to do MAN-SYD using the oneworld alliance and avoiding LHR?

BA's timetable still shows the MAN-FRA flight as a BA codeshare. Therefore it allows you to go MAN-FRA-SIN-SYD on Flybe & QF, all on BA codeshares BA4705 & BA7306. However it is 5 hours each way at FRA meaning a total journey time is 28h10m outbound and 29h exactly return.
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:00 pm

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 11):
Unless you know something we don't!

Is that never ever possible then?

Quoting MainMAN (Reply 12):
I'm already working out my finances and planning annual leave on the back of that!

My next door neighbor in HK works in accounts at CX. I don't know whether accounts people know that kind of information, or not. If they do, then great. If they don't - then he must be wrong.
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:07 pm

Seems VE use LIN as their Miln base, so will be interesting to see if they offer LIN out of MAN.

As for Bucharet, yes Blue Air do seem a natural choice, then we would have Air Blue and Blue Air !

Talking of the oneworld routings, I can quite easily see BE beconing a member of that alliance in time, Was chatting to the station manager at MAN last week and he was saying how BE HQ are very impressed with the returns they are getting from the MAN business routes )BRU/FRA/CDG/DUS/HAJ/EDO/GLA).
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:51 pm

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 13):
VE are to start Manchester to Milan daily service from end of Octover, according to sources.

They've had slots for a daily EDI-MXP for a couple of sesons now and not taken the slots up so if the sorce is the slot requests I wouldnt read too much into it

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 17):
Seems VE use LIN as their Miln base, so will be interesting to see if they offer LIN out of MAN.

Volare are owned by AZ and under the AZ restructuring plan will expand out of MXP. Not sure what will happen to their LIN base but I think LIN has some kind of restrictions and therefore I would imagine any MAN service would use MXP and not LIN
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:05 pm

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 17):
Talking of the oneworld routings, I can quite easily see BE beconing a member of that alliance in time,

Highly doubtful. If EI didnt match the membership standards of OW then BE certainly won't. There are murmurings too that BD are diluting the standard on *A.

And regarding the returns, BE may be impressed, but I can assure you that the travelling public (and frequent buiness travellers) are far from impressed at the mess FlyMAYBE have made of the ex-BACon network and relaibility.

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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:14 pm

Quoting Swiftski (Reply 6):

Manchester - Helsinki - (Japan) - Sydney on AY and JL

I know some Australians flying SYD-HKG-HEL-MAN/LHR, on Finnair & Qantas, they said it was the inexpensive choice to Europe.
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:29 pm

Quoting 7LBAC111 (Reply 19):
And regarding the returns, BE may be impressed, but I can assure you that the travelling public (and frequent buiness travellers) are far from impressed at the mess FlyMAYBE have made of the ex-BACon network and relaibility.

To be fair though, they ARE getting better. It was never gonna be a smooth transition and I think most everyone thought that it would take a few months. Watch this space I say.

Also I have heard a rumor from a staff member at BD that they (BD) are looking at the possibility of a MAN-DFW service in light of BD's recent decision to delay their LHR Open Skies services by a year... Anyone else heard that?
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:15 am

Quoting CainanUK (Reply 21):
Also I have heard a rumor from a staff member at BD that they (BD) are looking at the possibility of a MAN-DFW service in light of BD's recent decision to delay their LHR Open Skies services by a year... Anyone else heard that?

Great, but it wont happen.... If AA stopped the route from their enormous hub, why would BMI make it work when it's not a big star hub.
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:36 am

That's precisely what I thought. DFW isn't exactly a *A fortress, so unless BD knows something the rest of us dont then I cant see it happening. But then with Turner and Bishop, nothing surprises me anymore!
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:57 am

Quoting MainMAN (Reply 14):
Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 13):
There is also rumour of a service to Bucahaarest starting this winter, too.

Blue Air? I can't see Tarom coming back to Manchester, because they probably couldn't compete against Wizzair from LPL.

Manchester could be good for Tarom once they take delivery of their last two A318 in November. Yesterday though, Tarom announced an upcoming three weekly new service between London and Cluj (Transylvania) as of October 28. No details released about which London airport are they gonna operate from. This seems to be a haste response from Tarom to a persistent rumor coming from British Airways poised to open a London to Sibiu (Transylvania as well) this winter. It appears now that for the time being BA's intention is only hindered back by the new runway and terminal completion at Sibiu airport.
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:34 am

Well Bulgaria Air and Czech Airlines do OK to eastern Europe from MAN with loco competition from elsewhere, so maybe TAROM would be a good choice.

Are they in any alliances or codeshares?
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:53 am

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 25):
Well Bulgaria Air and Czech Airlines do OK to eastern Europe from MAN with loco competition from elsewhere, so maybe TAROM would be a good choice.

Are they in any alliances or codeshares?

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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:34 am

Is the DL065 ATL flight reverting back to a 763 this winter? Was looking at flights in February and it was down as a 767-300...
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:19 pm

Manchester and East Midlands Airports - both part of the Manchester Airports Group - are exhibiting at Airfreight Asia 2007, a first foray into the Far East for the group. Cargo is very important to both airports, and both are well connected to major motorway networks, but it's hard to imagine two less similar business plans.

Manchester is primarily a passenger airport with around 800 flights a day, only 12 of which are pure cargo. Around 55% of its freight is carried in the belly holds of passenger aircraft. However, it has attracted five new cargo carriers in the last six months, including Great Wall Airlines from Shanghai (four flights weekly); Jet 8 from Singapore (two flights weekly); FedEx (four flights weekly); Aeroflot (one weekly flight); and Air China (three weekly flights).

Michael O'Connor, from the airport said: 'The emphasis is on Manchester's growing links with the Far East which makes it all the more appropriate that we should be here in Hong Kong, publicising the advantages of our airports to airlines and operators in this part of the world.'

In contrast to Manchester, East Midlands has around 50 freight flights each night and almost all its cargo throughput is carried on dedicated freighters. DHL's UK air freight hub, with 35 flights a night, is based at the airport. It also performs a similar function for the Royal Mail's nightly services around the UK with first class post. Both UPS and TNT also use the airport on a regular basis.

But it is not content to rest on its laurels, and has joined Manchester in exhibiting at the exhibition in Hong Kong, in order to try to pick up more new business.
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:49 pm

Quoting Cainanuk (Reply 23):
That's precisely what I thought. DFW isn't exactly a *A fortress, so unless BD knows something the rest of us dont then I cant see it happening. But then with Turner and Bishop, nothing surprises me anymore!

Well Nigel Turner sure managed to surprise me last year when he called me up regarding an email I sent to Bishop regarding a photo from this site with an ER4 and one of it's access panel's open while it was landing. We went on to disscuss BMI's modular service, he admited it had it's flaws and he went on to launch an internal investigation into that ER4 incident. BMI still have the ability to surprise!

Speaking of BMI, who are they doing charter work for at the moment. I noticed G-MIDS heading off to DLM on Friday.
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:00 pm

Quoting CainanUK (Reply 21):
Also I have heard a rumor from a staff member at BD that they (BD) are looking at the possibility of a MAN-DFW

Funny, I heard another rumour saying that BD are very close to either dropping MAN-LHR altogether, or reducing capacity significantly to offer basic connection opportunities at LHR, so perhaps reducing to 3/4 services a day/

Can't back this up with a printed source, regrettably. But some of you may remember that this is the same source who informed me of AA's NCL-JFK plans a couple of years back,.

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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:55 pm

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 29):
Speaking of BMI, who are they doing charter work for at the moment. I noticed G-MIDS heading off to DLM on Friday.

When I worked at BD DLM was primarily for Exclusive Escapes, although Cosmos used some capacity as well.

Quoting 7LBAC111 (Reply 30):
BD are very close to either dropping MAN-LHR altogether, or reducing capacity significantly to offer basic connection opportunities at LHR, so perhaps reducing to 3/4 services a day

Wouldnt surprise me at all. A lot has been said about a possible VS takeover of BD and SRB has said that he would do just such a thing as Virgin Trains already provide an adequate connection between Manchester and London. Is this perhaps a bit of writing on the wall?
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:00 pm

Is it me or is the BD lounge at T3 being split in half?!
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:43 pm

I used to enjoy flying with bmi if I ever had to go to LHR (which of course was only when I had business in West London!) and loved the hot breakfast, but that's all history now. If bmi pulled off LHR then loads of *A codeshares will go too, encouraging more direct *A flights to MAN?
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Tue Sep 11, 2007 2:08 am

Quoting Candid76 (Reply 33):
bmi pulled off LHR then loads of *A codeshares will go too, encouraging more direct *A flights to MAN?

Behave. Everybody would just end up in FRA or CPH.  

In other news the damaged SV B772 was still parked on remote when I got there today about 1320. However by the time I was ordering mine and my friends lunch it had taxied and departed 23R. Or had it? At around 1430 it was a case of de ja vu as a second SV B772 taxied past and departed 23R. Not exactly interesting but hey ho. Which one was which anyway?

http://www.tmfy.com/anet/sv1.JPG

http://www.tmfy.com/anet/sv2.JPG

Oh and hanks for the DLM info Cainanuk.

[Edited 2007-09-10 19:13:02]
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Tue Sep 11, 2007 2:26 am

Quoting 7LBAC111 (Reply 30):

Funny, I heard another rumour saying that BD are very close to either dropping MAN-LHR altogether, or reducing capacity significantly to offer basic connection opportunities at LHR, so perhaps reducing to 3/4 services a day/

3/4 services a day is all that *A really needs on MAN-LHR, and I hope they don't pull of altogether, with BD being my preferred choice to London.

Quoting Cainanuk (Reply 31):
A lot has been said about a possible VS takeover of BD and SRB has said that he would do just such a thing as Virgin Trains already provide an adequate connection between Manchester and London. Is this perhaps a bit of writing on the wall?

A train to Euston and then tube or Heathrow Express will never attract significantly more numbers of travellers than it already does.
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:10 am

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 34):
In other news the damaged SV B772 was still parked on remote when I got there today about 1320. However by the time I was ordering mine and my friends lunch it had taxied and departed 23R. Or had it? At around 1430 it was a case of de ja vu as a second SV B772 taxied past and departed 23R. Not exactly interesting but hey ho. Which one was which anyway?

HZ-AKE was airbourne at 1344 as SV7594 to JED. HZ-AKA was airbourne just after 1430 as SV124 to GVA and JED.

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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Tue Sep 11, 2007 9:15 am

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 32):
Is it me or is the BD lounge at T3 being split in half?!

Have they done it with the BD lounge as well? I know the BA lounge is almost perfectly split in half now...
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:08 pm

http://airlineroute.blogspot.com/200...ial-intl-route-allocation-for.html

Chinese government/CAA route allocations for '08 and '09 show a Beijing-MAN service with Air China @ 7/wk from March '09.

We shall see what comes to pass.

As it says....

As these are initial allocations, further changes may be expected, and the awarded carriers eventually will decide whether to launch and use all frequencies.
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Tue Sep 11, 2007 7:48 pm

Quoting DavidT (Reply 37):
Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 32):
Is it me or is the BD lounge at T3 being split in half?!

Have they done it with the BD lounge as well? I know the BA lounge is almost perfectly split in half now...

What do you mean split in half? What makes the 2 halves different? The BD lounge has always been split between the business lounge and the Diamond Club lounge.
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:14 pm

Quoting ManchesterMAN (Reply 39):
What do you mean split in half? What makes the 2 halves different? The BD lounge has always been split between the business lounge and the Diamond Club lounge.

Could it not be something to do with FlyBe? Maybe they're making their own lounge now or something, altho seeing as i'm never in T1/T3 these days and they're always changing things around who knows!!!

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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:41 am

Quoting Speedbird19 (Reply 40):
Could it not be something to do with FlyBe? Maybe they're making their own lounge now or something, altho seeing as i'm never in T1/T3 these days and they're always changing things around who knows!!!

I imagine so, BA really don't need that big a lounge for just LON, GB Airways and JFK flights. The only half of the BA lounge is currently empty, I assume it will be fitted out for BE or someone like that. Very nice lounge though, brilliant views...
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:49 am

Quoting Cainanuk (Reply 31):

Wouldnt surprise me at all. A lot has been said about a possible VS takeover of BD and SRB has said that he would do just such a thing as Virgin Trains already provide an adequate connection between Manchester and London. Is this perhaps a bit of writing on the wall?

I too am not surprised. What wouldn't help the BD (or BA's even) cause is that Virgin Trains will be increasing the frequency of trains between Manchester-Euston to every 20 minutes from December 2008. Having said that I would still expect some sort of air service to LHR in the future, but for transit traffic only.
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Wed Sep 12, 2007 2:13 am

Half will be a FlyBE lounge, and half to remain british airways.
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:11 am

Quoting Boeing74741R (Reply 42):
Having said that I would still expect some sort of air service to LHR in the future, but for transit traffic only.

Well that'll ve a reduction of perhaps a couple of flights per day, if we are to believe MAN bosses who say its predominantely transfer traffic using them currently!

Quoting Oly720man (Reply 38):
Chinese government/CAA route allocations for '08 and '09 show a Beijing-MAN service with Air China @ 7/wk from March '09.

One of the CAA regional 5th freedom studies was for CA to operate 2 or 3 weekly via ARN.
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:16 pm

Quoting Boeing74741R (Reply 42):
Having said that I would still expect some sort of air service to LHR in the future, but for transit traffic only.



Quoting David_itl (Reply 44):
Well that'll ve a reduction of perhaps a couple of flights per day, if we are to believe MAN bosses who say its predominantely transfer traffic using them currently!

Do we know what the figures are for transfer traffic against O&D? I'm pretty sure that MAN-LHR services are still used pretty heavily by business people, especially at peak periods.

No doubt we've all noticed that WW are starting BHX-MAD, LS have announced LBA-MAD and year round LBA-GVA, so what's happening on the Manchester press releases? Not a lot, apart from the news that the 43 bus is to become a 24 hour operation!
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:18 pm

Quoting MainMAN (Reply 45):
No doubt we've all noticed that WW are starting BHX-MAD, LS have announced LBA-MAD and year round LBA-GVA, so what's happening on the Manchester press releases? Not a lot, apart from the news that the 43 bus is to become a 24 hour operation!

THE 43 runs as far as MAD ??  Wow!
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:33 pm

Quoting Cornish (Reply 46):
THE 43 runs as far as MAD ??

Hey, it's better than no service at all. Well done Stagecoach for being pioneers!
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:36 am

Quoting MainMAN (Reply 45):
Do we know what the figures are for transfer traffic against O&D? I'm pretty sure that MAN-LHR services are still used pretty heavily by business people, especially at peak periods

Personally I use the train for Central London but LHR when travelling to West London/Surrey/Berkshire area. As for the train, it is already 3 service per hour at peak times (1600-1900 from London) therefore business O&D peak time traffic may not see any affect when the train starts running every 20 minutes during the middle of the day as well.
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:21 pm

From the airport's website - press release dated 11th September.

"Manchester Airport is to get a new £8 million Air Traffic Control tower.

Architects from around across the north west, UK and European Union, have been invited to put their names forward to be considered for the opportunity to design the new control tower.

The new structure will be built on the airfield to allow the air traffic controllers even better views of both runways and is expected to be more than 50 metres tall making it the highest structure at the Airport.

In the first stage of the process, the project to build a new tower has been published in the Official Journal of the European Union inviting architects to show an expression of interest in the scheme. A project team from the airport will now narrow down the field of applicants and choose a design and construction firm to lead the development.

The new tower will be home to the Air Traffic Control team at Manchester Airport, which is provided by NATS, the company that operates air traffic control services throughout the UK. It will be fitted with state-of-the-art air traffic control management systems to help the air traffic controllers manage current and future capacity.

Manchester Airport's Director of Operations, Andrew Holl, said: "The current control tower has served the airport well since it was built over 45 years ago.

"However, we do need to build a new tower with the latest technology and closer to both our runways to cope with increased numbers of flights in and out of Manchester and this is the start of a process to find the right design and the right experts to do that for us."

The new control tower is expected to be open for use towards the end of 2009."

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