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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:33 am

I hope MAN is still served by an airline like Cathay or Singapore, as I cannot imagine flying all that way from asia on a low cost carrier.
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:40 am

SQ fly to MAN Ryan

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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:49 am

I know SQ fly to MAN as I flew with them on a recent trip to the UK.
I was trying to say that I hope they or another airline continue to fly to MAN as I think the 13 hour flight between the UK and Asia is too long on a low cost carrier in my opinion.
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:11 pm

Definately, i cringe at the thought of Air Blue flying MAN-Pakistan on an A321
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:26 pm

How would that compare to a Monarch A300 to Orlando?
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:28 pm

Or a FlyGlobespan 737-800 on ANY transatlantic route!
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:03 pm

We get a 757 to Hamilton :p.

Exeter, better than Knock.
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:25 am

Quoting TuRbUleNc3 (Reply 103):
Definately, i cringe at the thought of Air Blue flying MAN-Pakistan on an A321

Air Blue will be going to A330 as and when they receive them. Having said that, if having a narrowbody means that MAN can get any carrier to operate a long-haul route then we should welcome them (please note it must start off narrowbody not widebody downgraded to narrowbody with fewer mod cons as the widebody offering, unlike a certain carriers route which they effectively killed!); with high loads in all classes, we may be able to see the route upgraded. Remember that narrowbodies were the norm of long-haul travel for the best part of 25 years and people seem to have survived them *and* the lack of IFE.
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:37 am

Well CO have lost my J class custom since 757 ops began. I stick to BA these days with a lovely big flat bed!
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:02 am

Quoting David_itl (Reply 97):
but I don't envisage a 2 daily MAN-DND link happening,

MAN-DND was one of the most long-standing links between Manchester and Scotland, so I'd be pleased to see it return. It was said to be used by the legal services sectors in both cities in the 1980s.

Quoting David_itl (Reply 107):
Remember that narrowbodies were the norm of long-haul travel for the best part of 25 years and people seem to have survived them *and* the lack of IFE.

Precisely. Bring back those smokin' 707s, that's what I say.

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 108):
Well CO have lost my J class custom since 757 ops began. I stick to BA these days with a lovely big flat bed!

Going to bed for 7 hours at 10 in the morning?! I know it's different on the return but that's shameful  Wink
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:23 am

Quoting MainMAN (Reply 109):
MAN-DND was one of the most long-standing links between Manchester and Scotland,

Business Air Emb110s to begin with, wasn't it, progressing to Sf340s. Then I beleive Eastern flirted with the route (perhaps this could be confirmed). But if they did do it, I'd want another sector for a J41 to service so that it would'nt be on the ground for 6 hours or so: LDY perhaps. Unless they based it in DND, so it could do DND-MAN-DND-BHX-DND-MAN-DND.
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:35 am

Quoting David_itl (Reply 110):
Then I beleive Eastern flirted with the route (perhaps this could be confirmed)

Yep, can confirm T3 operated DND-MAN, was at the same time they started their INV-MAN flights, however the DND service didn't last that long.
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:53 am

Anyone know if TOM are looking to start any new routes next summer? Maybe even LS might open a few more routes next summer, seing as LBA have had a boost from them recently?!
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:12 am

Quoting David_itl (Reply 110):
Business Air Emb110s to begin with, wasn't it, progressing to Sf340s.

Yes, and was it Air Ecosse before them in the early 80s? Not sure now if they operated MAN-DND-ABZ as Business Air did.

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 112):
Anyone know if TOM are looking to start any new routes next summer? Maybe even LS might open a few more routes next summer, seing as LBA have had a boost from them recently?!

Well, somebody should be looking at GVA and MAD, that's for sure.
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:40 am

Maybe WW might look at MAD, they have announced it from BHX.
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:12 am

I wonder what FlyBe will do with the Manchester flights, I know that some of the 145s are on the out, does this mean pruning back the old Bacon routes?
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:13 am

MAN's definitely been on the back-burner for WW for a while. They've found a good home at BHX, could do more at CWL and MAN seems to have thrown up too much intense competition.

I've compiled a brief summary of WW's MAN ops for a typically quiet winter week in January or February:

Alicante.....1-34-67
Belfast Int.....4 daily, 2 on Sat, 3 on Sun.
Bordeaux.....rien. pas de vols!
Cork.....daily
Knock.....daily
Jersey.....daily (pretty good, considering it's mid-winter)
Malaga.....-2-4567 (lots of competition)
Newquay.....nobody surfs in January.
Palma.....1---5-7 (nowhere near being a winter destination)
Perpignan.....comme Bordeaux.
Prague.....daily

So, that's an approximate and respectable 10 flights a day. It's a shame I'm not using WW this winter, because the last time I did (AGP-MAN Oct 2006) I bought a scratchcard for a laugh, and won a free cup of coffee! Sadly my prize expires in mid-December  Sad
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:14 am

Quoting TuRbUleNc3 (Reply 103):
Definately, i cringe at the thought of Air Blue flying MAN-Pakistan on an A321

Flight operates with a technical fuel stop in Ankara

Quoting EXTspotter (Reply 104):
How would that compare to a Monarch A300 to Orlando?

This is only the case when an A330 or the 767 is tech, and operates via Gandor, as the AB6's don't have ETOPS sadly

Quoting Boeing74741R (Reply 105):
Or a FlyGlobespan 737-800 on ANY transatlantic route!

Operates via Gandor when its a 738/73G

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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:24 am

Earlier this summer, I read that they were used because of aircraft shortages and 2 were pulled of med flights for Orlando.
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:26 am

Quoting EXTspotter (Reply 115):
I wonder what FlyBe will do with the Manchester flights, I know that some of the 145s are on the out, does this mean pruning back the old Bacon routes?

As far as is known, 145s should be directly replaced by 195s and Q400s with no route pruning. If HLX are ending MAN-HAJ, that'll be very good for BE.

Quoting Jetset7E7 (Reply 117):
This is only the case when an A330 or the 767 is tech, and operates via Gandor, as the AB6's don't have ETOPS sadly

How many AB6's does Monarch have? These birds are pretty rare in Europe these days; I think only LH and Onur Air have them.
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:15 am

4 A300s are active G-MONR, G-MONS, G-MAJS and G-OJMR.

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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:43 am

Quoting EXTspotter (Reply 118):
Earlier this summer, I read that they were used because of aircraft shortages and 2 were pulled of med flights for Orlando.

Was due to A330 G-SMAN suffering a heavy landing in SFB, and being out of service for 5 weeks, A300 was put onto the SFB run, and covering flights were either operated by an A320 and 757, or A320 and aircraft from another operator, such as Air Italy, Titan and Bravo Airlines.

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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:58 am

What is the reason for the EI from Athens tonight?
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:41 am

Quoting Ryanair737 (Reply 122):
What is the reason for the EI from Athens tonight?

Could be bringing back fans/team from one of the European football matches. Blackburn vs Larissa perhaps.
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:30 am

I guess the football has something to do with the MON8029 from Skopje - anyone know what equipment this is on? I'm guessing one of the A300's (?)
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:33 am

Quoting Flyhi (Reply 124):
I guess the football has something to do with the MON8029 from Skopje

The Bolton match was in Macedonia.
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:13 pm

Understand from reading on pprune, that GSM are dropping MAN-CPT due poor bookings
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:41 pm

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 126):
Understand from reading on pprune, that GSM are dropping MAN-CPT due poor bookings

I wonder whether it is more to do with their appalling reputation among travellers? Last season CPT was virtually full every time it operated.

Customers have probably had enough, and who can blame them.

Let's hope we see Nationwide some day....
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:45 pm

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 127):
Let's hope we see Nationwide some day....

or rather bmi, as originally planned.
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:58 pm

SAA too would be nice.

I put my bets on TOM to start CPT, would do well for them. Think BY did fly to South Africa a few years back as charter.
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:27 pm

I wouldn't hold my breath on that. There is a reason that BY stopped flying there.
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:12 pm

Just heard today's Astraeus flight to Taba has been delayed as the inbound aircraft has had to divert to LGW for a medical emergency. Wonder how long the delay on that turns out to be?

At least my OK flight is fairly on time today, in fact, I can see the little 735 rolling out on 23R. Happy happy joy joy.

Oh and Miss Speedbird19. I saw you in T2 today.  Smile
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:24 pm

Out of interest what is the routing of the SU DC10 freighter? Does it just fly MAN-SVO-MAN or via another airport or onwards beyond SVO to an airport further east?
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:55 pm

Quoting ManchesterMAN (Reply 132):
Out of interest what is the routing of the SU DC10 freighter? Does it just fly MAN-SVO-MAN or via another airport or onwards beyond SVO to an airport further east?

HHN-MAN-SVO

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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:47 am

Air Blue have now carried 10,000 passengers on the ISB-MAN service (i'm ignoring the tech stop as no 5th freedom rights are available!); they've said they'll be going daily from December.
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:15 am

Quoting BAxMAN (Reply 83):
no schmuck in their right mind would travel all the way from Asia to Eastlands (unless MUFC were paying a visit to the council house).

A rented stadium we may have, although a 999 year lease is hardly temporary. (IIRD). And beter that than being GBP880 million in debt. PS - what was the score on the last derby?

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 127):
Let's hope we see Nationwide some day....

May happen, have heard some murmurungs from some contacts out there

Quoting MainMAN (Reply 128):
or rather bmi, as originally planned.

Never.

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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:44 am

Quoting 7LBAC111 (Reply 135):
Quoting MainMAN (Reply 128):
or rather bmi, as originally planned.

Never.

They have investigated the route - see this archived Flight mag article. That article also mentions the planned India services from MAN./
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:57 am

Quoting 7LBAC111 (Reply 135):
what was the score on the last derby?

or that goal against Villa last Sat? That was beautiful, I saw every second of it from the north stand Big grin  cloudnine 
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:04 am

Volare have confirmed daily Milan to Manchester from November. Good news!
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:25 am

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 138):
Volare have confirmed daily Milan to Manchester from November. Good news!

BGY, MXP or LIN ? If its MXP i guess it puts BE to the test (without the day returns)
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:01 pm

AIR ASIA X NEWS!

I understand that Air Asia X will be operating their new 332 into MAN from KUL on 1st October (AK001) and departing 5th October (AK002) back to KUL. I understand this is a major publicity exercise and should hopefully coincide with some positive news on a new service!
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:01 pm

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 140):
I understand that Air Asia X will be operating their new 332 into MAN from KUL

I thought they just got an a330-300.  scratchchin 
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:56 pm

American Airlines just uploaded their summer 2008 trans-Atlantic schedules. Boston-Manchester isn't there (AA's only other seasonal Europe route, Boston-Paris, is). This doesn't necessarily mean BOS-MAN isn't returning, they just haven't made a final decision yet.
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:22 pm

Unless BA opeate it with a 757.......
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:02 pm

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 140):
AIR ASIA X NEWS!

I understand that Air Asia X will be operating their new 332 into MAN from KUL on 1st October (AK001) and departing 5th October (AK002) back to KUL. I understand this is a major publicity exercise and should hopefully coincide with some positive news on a new service!

No doubt Manchester United have something to do with this, with Air Asia being one of the major sponsors.
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sun Sep 23, 2007 2:53 am

 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:38 am

Quoting Sammyb (Reply 145):
MAN is now on air asia's route map.
http://www.airasia.com/site/en/pageW...e=aax

I understand that Air Asia X will use T1 at MAN.
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:50 am

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 146):
I understand that Air Asia X will use T1 at MAN

Careful, let's not build ourselves up to much, but thanks for the general info. It's always nice to be the first to report some good news for a change!

I don't think that Air Asia at MAN will have any effect whatsoever on the ability to support other Far Eastern long haul services. We already know that there's significant demand from the north of England to Asia (judging by the loads on EK, QR and SQ), and also knowing the volume of people transferring at LHR, FRA and AMS there will one day be direct flights to BKK and HKG (again).

It's becoming obvious that mid and long haul is what MAN should now be aiming for, whilst admitting that low cost European flights have found a natural home at Liverpool and Leeds. MAN had a bit of a natural monopoly for a long, long time, being the biggest Northern city, and it was predominantly MAN which spearheaded the case of direct services to and from the North in the 1980s (when bilateral agreements left us all completely stuffed in favour of London).

I think I've gone off on a bit of a tangent there, but you all know what I'm saying.
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Sun Sep 23, 2007 6:18 am

Reported on Pprune that AB are looking at TXL and IB (Air Nostrum) might be looking at a MAD service, night stopping at MAN so it can leave early to connect with IB's South American departures from MAD mid morning.


Would make sense I guess.
 
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RE: Manchester MAN UK News 13

Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:34 am

Must be (head)windy across the atlantic... DL17 paying another visit tomorrow, eta around 06:15.
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