|Quoting Columba (Reply 12):|
The 30 A32x ordered last year will be used not only to replace older 737s but also the first generation of A320 so 30 aircraft are definitely not enough. The Embraer will very likely replace the Eurowings and Cityline Avros and Bae 146s.
When you see pictures of the aircraft there are always painted in LH Regional colors not mainline. I guess it is safe to say that they will not replace the 737-500
for the foreseeable time no A32x will be replaced. afaik, some 737s will start to be phased out in 2009, i think.
I'm not too sure that Embraer jets will go to EW
. i think CLH and EN
are more likely candidates. keep in mind there will also be 15 additional CRJ 900s to be delivered to LH
|Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 26):|
Wikipedia writes that the E190 will most likely go to Swiss and replace their Avros. Of course, Wiki may not be the most reliable source, but I guess someone there heard a rumour... (keyword on wiki: Lufthansa Cityline)
in this case, Wikipedia is way off. the Avros at LX
are there to stay for the next years to come. but also, LH
has many more options on Embraer jets, perhaps some day, some of those will find a new home with LX
|Quoting Thorben (Reply 33):|
No, they have RJ85s, each with 93 seats. The E-190 and E-195 are bigger than that, have 95-115 seats. The 735 has only 103 seats. So they could use 18 E-190 to replace the RJ-85s and 12 E-195s to replace the same number of 735s, but are you sure the RJs need to go before the 735? They have 30 735s, why not replace them with 30 E-Jets?
capacity-wise, the EMB 195 would certainly be a good replacement for LH
's 735s. however, this would mean that those aircraft would be piloted by LH
and not LH
Regional. it is much cheaper to have CLH or other regionals operate those birds than LH
|Quoting EDDB (Reply 36):|
LH definitely needs a 735 replacement, that's a fact...
So if they're supposed to go to LH, they can't be flown by CLH, cause a contract between LH and their pilots (KTV) limits the number of planes bigger than 70seats being operated by CLH! When LH broke that contract last year by operating a large number of CRJ-900s, they reached an agreement with the pilots by giving them half the amount of captains positions on that fleet! At the moment LH and the pilots union (VC) are negotiating the terms under which the E190s will be operated and rumours are spreading that it is a possibility that all(!) CLH pilots will be integrated in the KTV under certain conditions, resolving the contractual problems... If that rumour should become reality I'm pretty sure that the E190s will be operated by CLH, flown by LH pilots...
currently, there's a limit as to how many aircraft with more than 70 seats can be operated by LH
's regional subisidiaries. as stated above, in order for CLH, EW
to operate Avros/BAe's, there were exceptions integrated into the tariff framework, as well as for the CRJ 900s.
I have no doubts that eventually, all Embraers will be operated let's by a mix of CLH and EN
(and perhaps even others?). but if CL
pilots are going to be integrated into the KTV, there goes a huge benefit of CLH: lower salaries.
perhaps again there will be an exception meaning inclusion in the KTV but still lower salaries? let's wait and see....
If only pure sweetness was offered, why's this bitter taste left in my mouth.