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NW B742 At OAK?

Sun Sep 23, 2007 7:02 am

I am looking at Flightaware right now (3:00 PM Pacific Time) and saw a NW flight with a Boeing 747-200 from CLE enroute to OAK. Is this flight a charter of some kind?
 
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Sun Sep 23, 2007 7:04 am

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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Sun Sep 23, 2007 7:19 am

I hope someone got pics... always nice to see the 747s at CLE.. such a rare site these days..
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:23 am

hmm I'm suprised it didnt head over to SFO as it did when the Rams played the Raiders. Sidenote that was a 753 not a 742, so a little surprised about oak over sfo.
 
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:37 am

A 742 is a little over-kill for an NFL charter, so that thing should have no problems getting in and out of OAK since it will be so light.

However it only makes sense to transport the kings of the gridiron, THE BROWNS, with the queen of the skies, the 747!

GO BROWNS!!!!!

[Edited 2007-09-23 02:38:16]
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:56 am

Anyone from NWA know of any future charters with the -200 ?
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:00 am

Quoting Skibum9 (Reply 4):
A 742 is a little over-kill for an NFL charter, so that thing should have no problems getting in and out of OAK since it will be so light.

OAK actually has a larger runway than SFO, and UA does a lot of 747 maintainance there...so any kind of 747, no matter what load or how much fuel it has, as long as the plane can lift it, it'll be able to go in and out of OAK
 
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:04 am

Quoting HPAEAA (Reply 2):
I hope someone got pics... always nice to see the 747s at CLE.. such a rare site these days..

Oh, we sure did   . Go to www.opshots.net to see them...

Edit: Wrong URL

[Edited 2007-09-23 03:05:14]
 
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:49 am

Only the best for the team from the Best Location in the Nation!

GO BROWNS!

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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:50 am

Quoting Phishphan70 (Reply 6):
OAK actually has a larger runway than SFO, and UA does a lot of 747 maintainance there...so any kind of 747, no matter what load or how much fuel it has, as long as the plane can lift it, it'll be able to go in and out of OAK

Thanks for the clarification.....and GO BROWNS!!!
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:53 am

Quoting Phishphan70 (Reply 6):
OAK actually has a larger runway than SFO, and UA does a lot of 747 maintainance there

Sorry, wrong on both counts. OAK longest runway in 10K ft and SFO is 11,870K ft
UA closed their maintenance facility at OAK quite a few years ago.
 
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:55 am

Quoting Legacyins (Reply 10):
Quoting Phishphan70 (Reply 6):
OAK actually has a larger runway than SFO, and UA does a lot of 747 maintainance there

Sorry, wrong on both counts. OAK longest runway in 10K ft and SFO is 11,870K ft
UA closed their maintenance facility at OAK quite a few years ago.

OK.....I take by my thanks for the clarification!

But still.....GO BROWNS!!!

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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:59 am

Quoting Skibum9 (Reply 4):
A 742 is a little over-kill for an NFL charter, so that thing should have no problems getting in and out of OAK since it will be so light.

Actually a lot of times the family of the players is on board the aircraft on these upgrades.
 
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:03 am

Quoting Skibum9 (Reply 4):
A 742 is a little over-kill for an NFL charter

Not really... When the Titans flew Northwest they used a 747 as well.... now they use Delta and its common to see them use two 757's
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:09 am

Quoting Skibum9 (Reply 11):
(Detroit is losing so the Tribes magic number will be 1)

Yeah...but we blew the chance to get it done tonight  Smile

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Go Tribe!

and GO BROWNS!

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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:36 pm

Yep...we got shots in Cleveland! It was N624US. Man...with the two Atlas 747's last week, the FedEx MD10 diversion, USAF KC10, Volga Dnepr AN-124, the previous NW 747 all within the last couple months, CLE has seen more wide-bodies/heavies than usual this summer! I'm glad we were able to catch them all. I pretty sure Ernest Angley's 747SP P4-FSH was here again this summer too, and undoubtedly there were some that were missed.

I was glad to see it wasn't N623US which was here on August 24th. Shots of it on the ramp being serviced were also taken, but have yet to be uploaded. Here's links to the shots that are up:

Big version: Width: 175 Height: 128 File size: 9kb


Full size shot here:

http://www.opshots.net/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-5872

Big version: Width: 175 Height: 128 File size: 11kb


Full size here:

http://www.opshots.net/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-5871

Big version: Width: 175 Height: 124 File size: 17kb


And full size:

http://www.opshots.net/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-5870
 
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:37 pm

But does NW serve OAK? If they don't, would it have been easier to fly the bird to SFO, where they do have regular service too?
 
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:58 pm

Quoting Stealth777 (Reply 16):
But does NW serve OAK? If they don't, would it have been easier to fly the bird to SFO, where they do have regular service too?

No NW doesn't serve Oakland but when you're dealing with a charther situation, you don't have to use an airport that your company already serves.
More then likely they taxied from runway 29 (south field) over to Kaiser Air (north field) and were serviced by them. No crowds, personal and priority service.
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Sun Sep 23, 2007 7:08 pm

Quoting Legacyins (Reply 10):
Sorry, wrong on both counts. OAK longest runway in 10K ft and SFO is 11,870K ft
UA closed their maintenance facility at OAK quite a few years ago.

Yes, but I worked at OAK back in the mid 80's when World was HQ there. They had some 747's. Also, BA and AF brought Concorde in from time to time as part of a round-the-world tour. Routing on that, I believe, was it came in from JFK then went to HNL.
 
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:00 am

Quoting Mark8762 (Reply 18):
Yes, but I worked at OAK back in the mid 80's when World was HQ there. They had some 747's.

I was not saying 747s could or are have landed at Oakland. I was answering his question about UNITED. UA closed their maintence base there and UA does not send their 747s there for service.
 
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:27 am

Has the charter flight gone back to CLE or is the flight still there?
 
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:58 am

Quoting Phishphan70 (Reply 6):
OAK actually has a larger runway than SFO, and UA does a lot of 747 maintainance there...so any kind of 747, no matter what load or how much fuel it has, as long as the plane can lift it, it'll be able to go in and out of OAK

Not quite... OAK's rwy 29 is 10,000 feet while SFO's rwy 28R is 11,870 and rwy 28L is 10,602 feet. Additionally, UA closed their OAK maintenance facility in the post-9/11 era. They also closed Indy around that time.
 
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:00 am

Checked flightaware and don't see it leaving so it is probably still there.

Should be departing about 7:00 pm local time this evening back to CLE.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NWA9973
 
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 4:15 am

Quoting AeroMaxx (Reply 20):
Has the charter flight gone back to CLE or is the flight still there?

Won't leave until an hour or so after the Browns beat up on the Raiders.
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:08 am

Quoting Rampkontroler (Reply 15):
I was glad to see it wasn't N623US which was here on August 24th. Shots of it on the ramp being serviced were also taken, but have yet to be uploaded. Here's links to the shots that are up:

I mentioned in the charters thread that it wasn't N623US.

Quoting AeroMaxx (Thread starter):
I am looking at Flightaware right now (3:00 PM Pacific Time) and saw a NW flight with a Boeing 747-200 from CLE enroute to OAK. Is this flight a charter of some kind?

I mentioned this flight in the NFL/NCAA charters week 3 thread.

Quoting Stealth777 (Reply 16):
But does NW serve OAK? If they don't, would it have been easier to fly the bird to SFO, where they do have regular service too?

No, they may have sent a few SFO employees to oak.

Quoting Bablackpilot (Reply 17):
No NW doesn't serve Oakland but when you're dealing with a charther situation, you don't have to use an airport that your company already serves.

Correct just like the Colts flew into Ellington field instead of HOU or IAH.

Quoting AeroMaxx (Reply 20):
Has the charter flight gone back to CLE or is the flight still there?

Its still in OAK. The football game isn't over.

Quoting Skibum9 (Reply 23):
Won't leave until an hour or so after the Browns beat up on the Raiders.

It will probably be 2-3 hrs after the game by the time all the equipment and so fourth get to the airport and loaded up.
 
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:29 am

The Colts are scheduled to fly a 330 to OAK when they play there later this year.

Also to San Diego, but it shows it going into NZY instead of SAN.
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:50 am

The Browns like using the 742 on the long flights as it is more comfortable for the players, plus I believe it is much easier (and perhaps cheaper) than using a 330. For the shorter flights they will most likely use a 753 as they did when they flying to ORD during the preseason.
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:44 am

Quoting Skibum9 (Reply 23):
Won't leave until an hour or so after the Browns beat up on the Raiders.

Good luck with that.

Oak 16 - CLE 10 at the half.
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:46 am

Quoting SJC4Me (Reply 27):
Good luck with that.

Oak 16 - CLE 10 at the half.



Still have 30 minutes!
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:23 am

I hope NW will keep flying 742s for charters, this way I can get my fix, sense they retired them from commercial service

Sidebar: Does NW fly their old DC-10s on charter?
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:34 am

Quoting Skibum9 (Reply 28):
Quoting SJC4Me (Reply 27):Good luck with that. Oak 16 - CLE 10 at the half. Still have 30 minutes!

With 12 minutes to go, Oakland is up 23-17.

At this point, Cleveland has 163 total yards - 88 in the air, 75 on the ground. Oakland, OTOH, has 345 total yards, 179 in the air and 166 on the ground.

Cleveland better hurry up if they are going to deliver that beating you are talking about.
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:38 am

oops. Better make that 26-17 in favor of Oakland, with 8 minutes left.

Where was that beating coming from?
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:31 am

Quoting Lrdc9 (Reply 29):
I hope NW will keep flying 742s for charters, this way I can get my fix, sense they retired them from commercial service

For the next 18 months they will.

Quoting Lrdc9 (Reply 29):
Sidebar: Does NW fly their old DC-10s on charter?
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NW no longer has any DC-10s. They were all sold off and delivered to their new owners.
 
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:58 am

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 31):
oops. Better make that 26-17 in favor of Oakland, with 8 minutes left.

Where was that beating coming from?

Almost had you! You have to admit you were on pins and needles that last one minute!
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:28 am

It just took off from Rwy 29 at OAK, I saw it from SF.
 
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:37 am

Just saw it landing over C Concourse on Saturday, and saw it over by the ExpressJet hangar when I left the airport. It was right in front of quite a few COEX RJ's and CommutAir DH2's. Looked like a momma bird looking over the babies.  rotfl 
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:38 pm

Quoting Skibum9 (Reply 33):
Quoting Halls120 (Reply 31):oops. Better make that 26-17 in favor of Oakland, with 8 minutes left.

Where was that beating coming from?
Almost had you! You have to admit you were on pins and needles that last one minute!

not really. even if they had eked out a victory in the closing minutes, it would have been far from the "beating" you promised us!
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RE: NW B742 At OAK?

Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:13 pm

Quoting Skibum9 (Reply 23):

Won't leave until an hour or so after the Browns beat up on the Raiders.

That's not quite how it happened, was it?

I tell ya, the crowd went insane when that field goal got blocked!! Big grin
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