|Quoting SkidMarque (Reply 41):|
Quoting Gkirk (Reply 41):
Surprised nobody has suggested that Airbus have given BA the A380s for free
Here you go :
Airbus gave BA the A380 for free.
Great day for Airbus (well, indeed, Boeing "used to it"
). A couple of things, however: BA
gets 12 + possible 7 more A380s. That is, having 57 400+ seaters now. Saying, others will be replaced by something else. Which doesn't mean, no chance for either of 380 or 748 in future, but definitely not much chance. That is, contrary to what many were saying in "pre-BA-order" threads (repeating "market grows" mantra), and exactly like many others said ("no significant VLA market/orders"), VLA in general is not a success. Talking about BA
, when Airbus first offered A3XX, would it be good news for them to hear, "BA
, a huge 744 operator, will definitely get your superJumbo... a dozen or so of them"? The very fact that the rest of BA
744s are going to be replaced by midsize widebodies sounds not good for both 748 and 380 - but guess who is disappointed by this the most. How many more airlines are going to get VLAs? Will 748 get more than just a couple of orders (apparently, it will get some)? Will 380 reach its breakpoint in reasonable future (not in 40 years)? Airbus is happy that BA
380s, with no explicit sign of getting more, other than 7 options. Is that what they saw as a future for their flagship 6-7 years ago?
As for next midsize order - as much as I wish to see 773s, it looks like in general 777 goes 330 way: still many orders, still a future, but not as "new page" in airline fleet history anymore, while new page is what BA
is currently doing. Now it all between 787 and 350. Boeing must do absolutely the best with 78A, it's a golden chance, having already 787s in BA
fleet it would be their to lose. But as BA
stated they consider 787 and 350 different aircraft for different markets, most likely we'll see a split here. For Airbus, not to get 350 orders from BA
right now is not a big upset, as 350 is hardly a good 767 replacement (again, contrary to "market grows" mantra repeaters here). But not to get them in future will be quite a blow - in addition to overall VLA idea failure...