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Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:19 pm

Quoting Aer (Reply 96):
50% of the people that fly this route don't have a credit card or a debit card

I don't know what to make of that argument, dude. Plastic is pretty much ubiquitous these days, and third-world LatAm is no exception. This reminds me of the Life Takes VISA food court tv spot, in which the line is moving like a finely tuned piece of machinery, as everyone is paying with VISA for their $5.00 lunch. All the momentum comes to a screeching halt when one man pays with cash instead of plastic.
 
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Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:23 pm

PTY is planning to start fase 2 of the expansion up to 2 years early, it would include a new south terminal equal to the current one (wich would become the north terminal).

Also they are planning to extend RWY 3R by 3000 feet (1000 meters)

http://www.bnamericas.com/story.jsp?sector=5&idioma=E¬icia=410581
 
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Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:25 am

Quoting Aer (Reply 93):
Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 90):
GUA is getting other choices on GUA-MEX, GUA-SAP and GUA-MGA and given by other air carriers.

Any idea on what those may be?

GUA-MEX: MX 17x weekly. TA 7x weekly. AM had 4x weekly, one stop.
GUA-SAP: TA 10x weekly on ATR. AM had 2x weekly.
GUA-MGA: CM 14x weekly. AM had 2x weekly.




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Quoting Viaggiare (Reply 95):
the only thing they provide free of charge on board is drinking water? I wouldn't compare it to the blue carpet treatment on both CO and CM plus the complimentary Y to F upgrades they pamper me with, but I've also flown NK a couple of times to South Florida.



Quoting Aer (Reply 93):
By the way I just flew on NK from GUA to LAX IMHO not worth it at all and I wouldn't recommend the carrier.

It should be taken into consideration that NK follows strictly a low-cost model: no meals aboard, no in-flight entertainment, "lower ticketed fares" compared with other air carriers, the usage of alternative airports like FLL over MIA on NK to South Florida, few day-light schedules, only e-tickets and so on.
This would be the same level of service given for other U.S. low-cost carriers in Latin America like F9 Frontier Airlines, FL AirTran and B6 JetBlue, among others.
Related to your trips on NK, any weight restriction on baggage?
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Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:07 am

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 102):
Related to your trips on NK, any weight restriction on baggage?

NK allows up to two pieces of checked baggage per pax for US$10 each, or US$5 each if the items are pre-checked via their website. A third piece costs US$100 regardless of whether it was pre-checked online or not. Additional charges apply for each piece in excess of fifty pounds or sixty-two inches in overall dimensions.
 
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Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:19 am

...and as for their carry-on baggage policy, it's the usual one bag plus one personal item per pax rule that's pretty much the industry standard these days.
 
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Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:19 am

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 99):

I got your point but, if I may ask, how was your fare [w/o taxes]?

No prob. my fare (with w/o taxes or water invites) was $199.

Quoting Viaggiare (Reply 100):
and third-world LatAm is no exception.

Well tell that to Mr. Alejandro Coj from San Marcos who paid everything cash for his trip to see his son. Look everyone in the industry knows that the route GUA -LAX is high demand by the popular sector, in other words, people who pay their life savings to make that trip.

Quoting Viaggiare (Reply 100):
All the momentum comes to a screeching halt when one man pays with cash instead of plastic.

See comment above. Might I remind you that the reality that our capital cities live isn't the reality the province lives.

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 102):
Related to your trips on NK, any weight restriction on baggage?

$10 - up to 50 lbs, $50 - 51 lbs to 70 lbs, and $100 - 71 lbs to 100 lbs


Over all, here is DL or TA's niche, the migrant sector, your language, your culture, et al.

[Edited 2007-10-21 22:19:56]
 
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Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:20 am

Quoting Aer (Reply 105):
Over all, here is TA's niche, the migrant sector, your language, your culture, et al.

Or DL and UA as a friendly hand to the migrants.
 
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Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:16 am

Quoting Aer (Reply 105):
Well tell that to Mr. Alejandro Coj from San Marcos who paid everything cash for his trip to see his son.

I see your point, but shame on those local banks for not reaching out to folks in rural areas and opening up an interest-bearing savings account for these people.

Quoting Aer (Reply 105):
people who pay their life savings to make that trip.

And shame on Mr. Coj's son in L.A. as well, for not using one of his fat paychecks to spare his poor peasant dad from having to invest his meager life savings on the cheapest available airfare to go visit his ungrateful offspring.
 
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Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:43 am

Quoting Viaggiare (Reply 107):
Quoting Aer (Reply 105):
Well tell that to Mr. Alejandro Coj from San Marcos who paid everything cash for his trip to see his son.

I see your point, but shame on those local banks for not reaching out to folks in rural areas and opening up an interest-bearing savings account for these people.

Almost no airlines take cash these days, the comment is absurd. If they really need to buy the 2 dollar bottle of water or the 5 dollar can of pringles then they can always try to arrange with a passenger that has a card to pay him in cash and he can pay with a card, I would have no problem helping a fellow pax out with this.

The problem is that people in the popular sectors of LatAM still have a general distrust of banks and credit cards.
 
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Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:04 pm

Quoting Luisca (Reply 108):
the comment is absurd.

Ok, so lets ban poor people from flights then, have some social justice.

Quoting Viaggiare (Reply 107):
I see your point, but shame on those local banks for not reaching out to folks in rural areas and opening up an interest-bearing savings account for these people.

People it's Guatemala, not France.

Quoting Viaggiare (Reply 107):
And shame on Mr. Coj's son in L.A. as well, for not using one of his fat paychecks to spare his poor peasant dad from having to invest his meager life savings on the cheapest available airfare to go visit his ungrateful offspring.

Consider the following, most of his son's fat paychecks are sent back to Guatemala as remittances so he is left with little money too. Again people GUA-LAX is migrant oriented LITTLE MONEY ON BOTH ENDS.
 
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Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:07 pm

Quoting Luisca (Reply 108):
The problem is that people in the popular sectors of LatAM still have a general distrust of banks and credit cards.

Wouldn't you if you had little to no education?

Quoting Luisca (Reply 108):
Almost no airlines take cash these days,



Quoting Luisca (Reply 108):
then they can always try to arrange with a passenger

Not all people are as good as you
 
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Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:06 pm

I'd say it's time for a new thread.
 
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Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:40 pm

Quoting Aer (Reply 105):
No prob. my fare (with w/o taxes or water invites) was $199.

Thanks. I find it a little bit expensive since we are talking about a LCC.
 
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Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:52 pm

Quoting Luisca (Reply 108):

Almost no airlines take cash these days,

Not true.
On the contrary, I bet that almost every single airline take cash. Local currency, U.S. Dollars, Euros, you name them.
 
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Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:25 pm

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 113):
Quoting Luisca (Reply 108):

Almost no airlines take cash these days,

Not true.
On the contrary, I bet that almost every single airline take cash. Local currency, U.S. Dollars, Euros, you name them.

Off the top of my head.

Aloha: Cashless
Frontier: Cashless
Air tran: Cashless
JetBlue: Cashless
NK: Cashless
AA: Going Cashless
DL: Going Cashless
Northwest: Going Cashless

POINT 2

I have info from a very good source that TACA will announce an order for 20 E-190s in the next few months.
 
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Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:28 am

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 112):
I find it a little bit expensive since we are talking about a LCC.

Yeah, I missed the special by 5 min or so
 
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Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:00 am

Quoting Luisca (Reply 114):
Aloha: Cashless
Frontier: Cashless
Air tran: Cashless
JetBlue: Cashless
NK: Cashless
AA: Going Cashless
DL: Going Cashless
Northwest: Going Cashless

You're taking about less than 0,001% of the whole industry. All mentioned above are U.S. carriers and basically LCC [except for AA, DL and NW]. Even more, you can pay cash through a travel agent.
Bottom line: ALL major airlines, accept cash as a method of payment. Precisely what I said before.

Quoting Luisca (Reply 114):
I have info from a very good source that TACA will announce an order for 20 E-190s in the next few months.

 vomit 
 
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Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:50 pm

Quoting Luisca (Reply 114):

I have info from a very good source that TACA will announce an order for 20 E-190s in the next few months.

Ha! I guess i was right  Smile

Quoting Mt99 (Reply 73):
Las adquisiciones incluirán esta vez, aviones de la brasileña Embraer con 94 a 96 asientos. La recepción de las naves se espera para finales del próximo año. "Eso nos dará la posibilidad de atender nuevos mercados y tener clientes más satisfechos", dijo."

http://www.elsalvador.com/mwedh/nota...69159

I wonder were they will be used....
 
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Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:12 pm

Why TA would choose Embraer over Canadair ?
 
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Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:17 pm

Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 118):
Why TA would choose Embraer over Canadair ?


Just like any business i would say its a pricing issue. Or - maybe - i dont know - i have a feeling its a cargo thing.. do Embraers have more cargo than the Bombardiers?

Just did a quick check.. the only CRJ that is in the 98ish passenger capacity is the CRJ-900 with 90 seats. So i guess part of the answer is that the Embraers have 10 extra seats or so.

[Edited 2007-10-23 07:23:25]
 
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Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:23 pm

Just did a quick check.. the only CRJ that is in the 98ish passenger capacity is the CRJ-900 with 90 seats. So i guess part of the answer is that the Embraers have 10 extra seats or so.
 
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Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:09 pm

Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 118):
Why TA would choose Embraer over Canadair ?

If you have ever flown a CRJ it is the most god awful experience their is, to take a piss you have to bend backwards. It is just cramped, the CRJ is just that, a regional jet, the ERJ is mainline sized.

And before you ask yes I have flown both and I have also flown the CR2 and the CR7 (same cabin as the 9)
 
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Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:30 pm

Quoting Mt99 (Reply 117):
I wonder were they will be used....

For sure BZE-SAL could use some extra dedicated capacity..... I envision them dropping BZE-IAH and then doing a daily ERJ BZE-SAL-BZE with porbably and extra frequency on MWF to accomodate the ever growign business traffic.
 
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Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:35 pm

Quoting Luisca (Reply 121):
If you have ever flown a CRJ it is the most god awful experience their is, to take a piss you have to bend backwards. It is just cramped, the CRJ is just that, a regional jet, the ERJ is mainline sized.

That much is true - but "feel" wise - as a passenger at least you have to admit that CRJs interior is far superior
 
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Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:00 pm

Quoting Mt99 (Reply 123):
as a passenger at least you have to admit that CRJs interior is far superior

I dont get what you are saying? i am stating the the Passenger cabin is just CRAMPED, i am not talking about the cockpit, the cockpit of a CRJ is actually pretty confortable.
 
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Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:04 pm

Quoting Luisca (Reply 124):
I dont get what you are saying? i am stating the the Passenger cabin is just CRAMPED, i am not talking about the cockpit, the cockpit of a CRJ is actually pretty confortable.

I never mentioned the cockpit.
 
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Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:31 pm

Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 118):
Why TA would choose Embraer over Canadair ?

Maybe because is cheaper.
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:56 am

Quoting Mt99 (Reply 117):
I wonder were they will be used....

Maybe they will be used for replacing ATR-42 routes like GUA-SAP and GUA-TGU or maybe to open new routes like SAL-GDL or SAL-MTY
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:01 am

Got it from local newspaper in Guatemala, that Interjet will start service beginning November 6
TLC-GUA-TLC = 7 weekly
CUN-GUA-CUN = 3 weekly

---Only Spanish---
http://www.prensalibre.com/pl/2007/octubre/24/185875.html

Regards

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Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:36 am

More info on the TLC-GUA-TLC

On Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays and Saturdays
TLC-GUA Flight 901 Departs 13:30 Arrives 15:25
GUA-TLC Flight 900 Departs 16:15 Arrives 18:05

On Sundays, Tuesdays and Thursdays
TLC-GUA Flight 901 Departs 10:10 Arrives 12:00
GUA-TLC Flight 900 Departs 16:45 Arrives 18:35

More info on the CUN-GUA-CUN
Flights will be operated Sundays, Tuesdays and Thursdays

CUN-GUA Flight 903 Departs 14:25 Arrives 15:55
GUA-CUN Flight 902 Departs 12:50 Arrives 14:15

In conclusion
Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays and Saturdays
TLC-GUA-TLC

Sundays, Tuesdays and Thursdays
TLC-GUA-CUN-GUA-TLC

Intejet offers on their website buy one ticket and get another one for free  drunk  (happy hour)  drunk 
link
http://www.interjet.com.mx/SearchAllPromo.aspx

Juanchito
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:49 am

Quoting Juanchito (Reply 128):
Got it from local newspaper in Guatemala, that Interjet will start service beginning November 6
TLC-GUA-TLC = 7 weekly
CUN-GUA-CUN = 3 weekly

---Only Spanish---
http://www.prensalibre.com/pl/2007/octubre/24/185875.html

Regards

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I could not Edit this post but flight will start on Nov12. Flight are bookable for this dates and not beginning Nov6

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Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:27 pm

COPA considering Montreal and Toronto Daily, but cant get the frequencies.

Canada will not allow panama to get the frequencies needed (14 weekly). Currently Panama only has 4 frequencies a week to Canada and therefore CM considers unpractical launching the route. Panama is again going to try and negotiate a new Bilateral with Canada under Panama's Open Skies policy.

http://www.prensa.com/hoy/negocios/1154431.html
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:29 pm

Quoting Aer (Reply 110):
Wouldn't you if you had little to no education?

Since authorities usually doesn't do their job: law enforcement, regulation and consumer protection you CAN get scr*wed big time if you're not careful, regardless of your education.

Quoting Juanchito (Reply 128):
Got it from local newspaper in Guatemala, that Interjet will start service beginning November 6
TLC-GUA-TLC = 7 weekly
CUN-GUA-CUN = 3 weekly

Isn't that great? Let's hope the fares are right and I'd be in no time on a plane bound to GUA. Beautiful country.
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:15 pm

Quoting Luisca (Reply 131):
Canada will not allow panama to get the frequencies needed (14 weekly). Currently Panama only has 4 frequencies a week to Canada and therefore CM considers unpractical launching the route.

CM opened COR with 4 frequencies per week, surely one can't compare COR and YYZ markets, but If CM is willing to fly 4 weekly to YYZ (or YUL instead), they'll surely do it rightaway before any bilateral is negotiated.. I'm sure with a Canadian route operating 4 weekly, CM will run into problems with the high demand for such a service,
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:38 pm

Quoting Juanchito (Reply 128):
CUN-GUA-CUN = 3 weekly

Finally a little competition in this route.
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:38 pm

Quoting Juanchito (Reply 128):
Interjet will start service beginning November 6
TLC-GUA-TLC = 7 weekly
CUN-GUA-CUN = 3 weekly

GUA-MEX is currently getting 24x weekly and suddenly Interjet is introducing services to TLC as an option over MEX.
TA is supplying GUA-FRS-CUN daily on ATR hence the demand really exists in such track. Nonetheless, GUA-CUN is likely origin-destination on Interjet.
Interjet works as low-cost model and operates the 320 exclusively.
 Smile Regards.
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:50 pm

Is Interjet (or another Mexican airline) "related" to Grupo TACA?
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:15 pm

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 135):
Nonetheless, GUA-CUN is likely origin-destination on Interjet.

You're right on this one, WU tried to do it direct and it was short lived; maybe they'll also request the stop at FRS after a few days, who knows what the outlook will be like.
 
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:54 pm

Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 136):
Is Interjet (or another Mexican airline) "related" to Grupo TACA?

That is actually true but it's Volaris, some of their 319's belonged to TACA before, think its the same owner or group, too busy to look for the real relationship now :S.

Tomas.
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:08 pm

Fellas, check this out:

Interjet offering TLC-GUA-TLC starting at USD 260.00, inclusive of taxes and surcharges.

Well, looks like Mexicana and TACA will gradually begin to fell some heat already. Undoubtedly, the incursion of Interjet in Central America, will represent an important change in the current market conditions existing to and from Mexico.

Best regards
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:11 pm

Quoting Mt99 (Reply 138):
Its official 11 EMB-190's for TACA

The A318 has been a better choice.
 
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Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:15 pm

http://costaricaaviation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6143

Reports in the local media says that the Costa Rican government wants to spend about US$20.9 million in improving the infrastructure of airports nationwide. Most of that money will be spent on the three major airports in the country, LIR, SJO and SYQ. US$ 9.1 million will be allocated to LIR for repairs and construction work, in which the runway should get needed repair/improvements, and in which an expansion of current parking space will be done. SJO and SYQ will get US$6.1 million for repairs and construction work, and the rest of the money will go into investing for runway repairs and safety improvements to other airports, among them LIO.

As I said in that thread, I wonder about the feasability of extending the runway at LIO from the current 1800 to 2000 metres and widening it to 45 metres, among other things, to make the runway suitable for aircraft the size of a 737 or 757? Is there any chance that, given the necessary resources, LIO could become Costa Rica's "Eastern Hub", to attract more international traffic and boosting tourism in Limón Province?
 
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Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:13 am

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 141):
The A318 has been a better choice.

Based on what? While i do find the E190 unappealing - the A318 is a very very niche airliner due to its weight. It can work on certain routes but not on all. Maybe the routes that TACA is going to deploy these 100-seaters are just not suited for the A318.

On the other hand - i am sure that bringing in a new type is not cheap either...
 
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Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:57 am

Quoting Mt99 (Reply 143):
Maybe the routes that TACA is going to deploy these 100-seaters[sic] are just not suited for the A318.

Both have basically the same number of seats and cargo capacity [please correct me if I am wrong]. I must admit that I don't have the "technical" knowledge to base my opinion. Honestly.

Nevertheless, TA has a good experience with the Airbus family [in fact, LR was the first Latin American carrier introducing the A320 in their fleet back in the 80's, as long as I remember]. So, why the change?

Quoting Mt99 (Reply 143):
i am sure that bringing in a new type is not cheap either...

It's a personal appreciation. And I respect that, but don't share it.
 
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Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:32 am

Quoting Aer (Reply 137):
WU tried to do it direct and it was short lived; maybe they'll also request the stop at FRS after a few days

I agree with your point.
Does WU mean Tikal Jets?
The layover in FRS for GUA-CUN on TA's ATR implies a thin market and probably not exclusive for leisure traffic at all. Some connections are also available on TA through GUA.
With that being said above, I cannot understand how a 320 3x weekly for origin-destination would warrant high yields in such route. I'm not trying to say Interjet's GUA-CUN won't be profitable, but it looks a hard scenario to make money in short term. How is the VFR market for GUA-CUN or is it mostly leisure traffic instead?
The operations of CM in CUN look different in many ways. CM deploys 10x weekly for CUN-PTY with E190 and a lot of passengers may diversify among other destinations through CM network once in PTY.


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Quoting XA744 (Reply 140):
Interjet offering TLC-GUA-TLC starting at USD 260.00, inclusive of taxes and surcharges.

Interesting. The size-able market GUA-MEX is getting a new alternative given by low-cost carrier.
Interjet makes a resemblance with NK to FLL over MIA...
What about ground transportation from TLC to D.F. and Benito Juarez Int'l?


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Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 144):
TA has a good experience with the Airbus family [in fact, LR was the first Latin American carrier introducing the A320 in their fleet back in the 80's, as long as I remember]. So, why the change?

TACAA320: What do you think about training procedures in order to operate the E190 as compared with the 318 taking into account the experiences with both 320 and 321on TA?

I really appreciate all your answers.
Regards.
 
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Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:14 am

According to today's edition of La Nación, RZ will start SJO-DAV 4x weekly in December. The article talks about a 46-seater, so I'm guessing an AT43. It also says an order for 10 new C208s is in the works.
 
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Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:28 am

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 144):
Both have basically the same number of seats and cargo capacity [please correct me if I am wrong]. I must admit that I don't have the "technical" knowledge to base my opinion. Honestly.

Nevertheless, TA has a good experience with the Airbus family [in fact, LR was the first Latin American carrier introducing the A320 in their fleet back in the 80's, as long as I remember]. So, why the change?

The problem is that the Basic Empty Weight of the A318 is way to high wen compared with the E190, therefore the airplane is carrying around a lot of "dead weight". This increases the specific fuel burn and makes CASM prohibitively high for most operations unless only a very very small subfleet of 100 seaters is needed. In the case that only a small amount of aircraft is needed then sticking to A would have been the right choice, but when you have a significant amount of aircraft (like 11+15) the economics of Commonality are outweighed by the savings in fuel (especially at 100 per barrel)

Now I know that you have had your issues with CMs E190s (that you have always promised to tell us what happened but you haven't) and I understand you might be adamant to accept the E190 in TAs fleet but I have a friend that recently started flying the 190 at CM and he loves it, he says that the teething problems have been solved, dispatch reliability is up and it is a very comfortable plane to fly in, passengers love it (especially C were you can have one side of the plane for yourself) because it is quieter than the 737.
 
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread - 15!

Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:52 am

Quoting Viaggiare (Reply 146):
According to today's edition of La Nación, RZ will start SJO-DAV 4x weekly in December. The article talks about a 46-seater, so I'm guessing an AT43. It also says an order for 10 new C208s is in the works.

TA's RZ success will lie on which schedule they choose to operate. DAV badly needs a SJO-DAV evening and DAV-SJO early morning flight, specially to connect with the TA SJO hub hours (roughly 0630h and 2030h).
 
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RE: Central American Aviation Thread - 15!

Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:14 pm

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 144):
I must admit that I don't have the "technical" knowledge to base my opinion. Honestly.



Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 145):
TACAA320: What do you think about training procedures in order to operate the E190 as compared with the 318 taking into account the experiences with both 320 and 321on TA?

Being honest [and I hardly think we all must be, always], I simply don't have "technical reasons" to give you answer[s]. I simply can't give you them. My knowledge is too limited or non existent to give you and straight, honest and accurate answer[s] [my apologies for being so repetitive].

My "field" is legal, but since we have people like you and Luisca, I expect from both of you the answer[s] to your question[s].

I don't have any problem accepting that my limitations in the technical aspect, is more orthodox than epistemological.

Quoting Luisca (Reply 147):
and I understand you might be adamant to accept the E190 in TAs fleet but I have a friend that recently started flying the 190 at CM and he loves it, he says that the teething problems have been solved, dispatch reliability is up and it is a very comfortable plane to fly in, passengers love it (especially C were you can have one side of the plane for yourself) because it is quieter than the 737.

To repeat what I said above is totally worthless. I just have to add that my perception of the EMB 190 versus the A318 is based as a passenger. Aspects like comfortableness, based in past experiences molded my opinion in this regard.

Even more, I feel more secure in a 318 than the EMB [ DISCLAIMER: I'm not saying that the first one "is more secure" than the second one].

Edited to add the following link: Taca Order Of EMB 190 (by PRGLY Oct 24 2007 in Civil Aviation)

I will be waiting for your technical explanations of why the EMB is the best choice for TA [or at least better than the A318].

[Edited 2007-10-25 06:32:11]

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