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Quoting RicciPettit (Reply 3): Also was the MD82 built when the company was under the Boeing umbrella? |
Quoting RicciPettit (Reply 3): Also was the MD82 built when the company was under the Boeing umbrella? |
Quoting Super98 (Reply 6): They will uncover some very uncomplimentary things about that airline and its crew if they proceed. And Boeing will be exonerated completely. |
Quoting Pilotboi (Reply 1): Geez people (the survivors and familes), why can't we just let the NTSB do their job and get back to us once they find out what happened. Sad. |
Quoting Bx737 (Reply 9): but as my car is over 5 years old, I think the manufacturer would laugh if I crashed and sued them, and rightly so. |
Quoting Prebennorholm (Reply 13): Maybe I'm wrong? Maybe I'm exaggerating somewhat? But I'm afraid not. Any other thoughts? |
Quoting Prebennorholm (Reply 13): I'm not sure you should blame the the survivors and relatives. I think that you should blame US law firms. |
Quoting Prebennorholm (Reply 13): "Sign here, it doesn't cost a cent, you get 50% of any income, you do nothing, we do everything, if we win $1,000 you get 500, and here you write your bank account number". (with small letters: "income" = profit after bribing the judge, travel expenses, and other directly related expenses such as office rent and cleaning). And in the end it will be settled out of court with a total, secret amount so small that Boeing finds it cheaper to settle than continue to have their lawyers fight their defence. Maybe I'm wrong? Maybe I'm exaggerating somewhat? But I'm afraid not. Any other thoughts? |
Quoting Pilotboi (Reply 1): NTSB do their job and get back to us once they find out what happened. Sad. |
Quoting TruemanQLD (Reply 14): If Boeing was in any way at fault, sue them and then they will make sure they never let it happen again! Good on them, I knew one of the Australians daughters. RIP |
Quoting TruemanQLD (Reply 14): If Boeing was in any way at fault, sue them and then they will make sure they never let it happen again! Good on them, I knew one of the Australians daughters. RIP |
Quoting Itsnotfinals (Reply 23): The NTSB does not investigate accidents outside of the US, they may sometimes consult, but this investigation will be carried out by the Thai aviation authorities. |
Quoting Boeingluvr (Reply 24): Sure they took on the responsibilty, but they're not to blame if they never built the thing. |
Quoting Pilotboi (Reply 7): No - it was built by McDonnell Douglas. Boeing bought MD, and assumed all the responsibilities of them, basically. But Boeing never had any part in the building of the MD-82. |
Quote: Type Certificate Holder: McDonnell Douglas Corporation Long Beach, California Type Certificate Ownership Record: McDonnell Douglas Corporation transferred ownership of the TC A6WE to The Boeing Company on January 30, 1998. MDC is a subsidiary of The Boeing Company. The DC-9-10, -20, -30, -40, and –50 Series, and DC-9-81/-82/-83/-87, MD-88, MD-90, and 717 are defined as follows: DC-9-10 Series ………….……………DC-9-11, DC-9-12, DC-9-13, DC-9-14, DC-9-15, and DC-9-15F DC-9-20 Series ………….……………DC-9-21 DC-9-30 Series ………….……………DC-9-31, DC-9-32, DC-9-32 (VC-9C), DC-9-32F, DC-9-32F (C-9A, C-9B), DC-9-33F, DC-9-34, and DC-9-34F DC-9-40 Series ………….……………DC-9-41 DC-9-50 Series ………….……………DC-9-51 DC-9-81/-82/-83/-87…….……………DC-9-81 (MD-81), DC-9-82 (MD-82), DC-9-83 (MD-83), and DC-9-87 (MD-87) MD-88 ……….…………..… MD-88 MD-90 ….....……………..….MD-90-30 717 …..…………………...717-200 |
Quoting FlyingAY (Reply 28): This is actually not true. Boeing of these days includes also the former McDonnell-Douglas, so yes, they built the thing, although the plane wasn't called a Boeing back in the days. Name of the company doesn't matter here. But anyway, I don't think it matters in this case, as they won't lose this case. |
Quoting Boeingluvr (Reply 24): Well in reality Boeing is in no way responsible. |
Quoting Boeingluvr (Reply 24): Sure they took on the responsibilty |
Quoting Boeingluvr (Reply 30): But Boeing did not actually have involvment in theb design and production of the a/c before the bought out Douglas. |
Quoting Thai744 (Thread starter): The complainant, filed in the Cook County Circuit Court, wants the court to order the defendant company to release immediately to the families all relevant evidence on the design and manufacturing records of the accident aircraft including maintenance records. |
Quoting Prebennorholm (Reply 13): And in the end it will be settled out of court with a total, secret amount so small that Boeing finds it cheaper to settle than continue to have their lawyers fight their defence. |
Quoting SEPilot (Reply 15): Not in the US. A lawyer friend of mine once said, "any idiot with a typewriter can start a lawsuit." |
Quoting 2175301 (Reply 25): My prediction in this case is that a judge will toss the case once it is shown that Boeing was not involved with the crash. |
Quoting KBFIspotter (Reply 33): Boeing does not keep the maintenance records for the aircraft it manufactures once they leave the factory |
Quoting Pilotboi (Reply 27): |
Quoting FlyingAY (Reply 28): This is actually not true. Boeing of these days includes also the former McDonnell-Douglas, so yes, they built the thing, although the plane wasn't called a Boeing back in the days. Name of the company doesn't matter here. |
Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 21): The real problem is the jury as they tend to encouaged by the Plaintiff's attonreys in such matters to go for huge judgements against deep pockets, like Boeing. Boeing is a 'deep pocket' with a lot more $$$'s than probably the airline had in insurance to pay out. |
Quoting FlyingAY (Reply 28): This is actually not true. Boeing of these days includes also the former McDonnell-Douglas, so yes, they built the thing, although the plane wasn't called a Boeing back in the days. Name of the company doesn't matter here. But anyway, I don't think it matters in this case, as they won't lose this case. |
Quoting 2175301 (Reply 25): I would also change how liability is rewarded. There would be a limited level of awards for cases where the problem was a simple mistake, a more generous level for cases where you would say that a person was somewhat incompetent or made a series of bad decisions; and only allow the unlimited rewards for cases of demonstrated gross incompetence or demonstrated major policy decisions to not proceed in a relatively safe direction. |
Quoting Scbriml (Reply 31): Quoting Boeingluvr (Reply 24): Well in reality Boeing is in no way responsible. Quoting Boeingluvr (Reply 24): Sure they took on the responsibilty Make your mind up! Boeing is responsible, they took over MD and everything that goes with it. Say a design fault is discovered on the MD-80, who would have to design a fix and notify the operators? That would be Boeing. Quoting Boeingluvr (Reply 30): But Boeing did not actually have involvment in theb design and production of the a/c before the bought out Douglas. That's irrelevant, they are one and the same company now. When you take over another company you take over all current and future liability for that company's products. |
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