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Which BA & Bmi Domestic Flights Serve Breakfast?

Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:26 pm

Could someone please tell me which flights serve breakfast to Glasgow and Edinburgh on both BA and bmi?

Are there any photos available anywhere? Which operates the best service?

Are there any photos of bmi's Business Class to GLA and EDI?
 
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RE: Which BA & Bmi Domestic Flights Serve Breakfast?

Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:36 pm

BA - all departures ex LHR/GLA/EDI before 0930 to the whole cabin.

BD - C class only not sure of the times. Y class is buy on board snacks.
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RE: Which BA & Bmi Domestic Flights Serve Breakfast?

Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:51 pm

Funny how BD have come full circle. I remember when they started their domestic routes, it were they and not BA who offered hot meals and a high class of service. Now they are operated largely as a no-frills operation and yet BA still provide the hot breakfasts.

Please be aware that C class only exists on a small portion of BD flights anyway now. Expect a LCC product in Y
 
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RE: Which BA & Bmi Domestic Flights Serve Breakfast?

Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:30 pm

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 2):
Please be aware that C class only exists on a small portion of BD flights anyway now.

Do you mean only a small portion of the flights to each of the 'Business Class' routes?

Or, just a small portion of bmi's flights in general?

I know GLA, BHD, EDI, BRU & DUB have the Business Class flights.

Do they actually get a bigger seat in a seperate cabin? Or is it just a higher fare with extras?
 
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RE: Which BA & Bmi Domestic Flights Serve Breakfast?

Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:42 pm

I dont fly BMI much anymore. I thought C class had been removed from some of the routes you mention though. The Y class BOB is pathetic. The BMI flight attendants seem embarassed and apologetic for doing this after their award winning Diamond service of the past. Plus, sometimes on LHR_MAN flights the crew do not get round to serving every passenger so some dont even get chance to buy a drink even!!
 
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RE: Which BA & Bmi Domestic Flights Serve Breakfast?

Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:45 pm

You do get a free breakfast and drink on BD if you have a Diamond Club Blus Plus card or above. The breakfast panini is quite nice but not as nice as the BA "fry-up"!
 
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RE: Which BA & Bmi Domestic Flights Serve Breakfast?

Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:11 pm

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 4):
Plus, sometimes on LHR_MAN flights the crew do not get round to serving every passenger so some dont even get chance to buy a drink even!!

I've found this when I took a flight with them on this route when onboard the A321 a while back. For a short flight however it really bit bother me though.,
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RE: Which BA & Bmi Domestic Flights Serve Breakfast?

Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:15 pm

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 2):
Please be aware that C class only exists on a small portion of BD flights anyway now. Expect a LCC product in Y

Most of the domestic served flights have C, the DUB flights certainly do

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RE: Which BA & Bmi Domestic Flights Serve Breakfast?

Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:33 pm

The cabin crew on BMI really havent got to grips with the BOB on routes like LHR-CDG or LHR-AMS, they have to sell, collect and give change, process the sale etc. Many people get no service or opportunity at all. Its a terrible system. Why not a free cuppa coffee and then that would speed up the cabin service. They are still a full service carrier arent they????
 
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RE: Which BA & Bmi Domestic Flights Serve Breakfast?

Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:01 pm

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 8):
they have to sell, collect and give change, process the sale etc. Many people get no service or opportunity at all. Its a terrible system.

Maybe some time we'll see a quicker proccess via self-service machines. You can check-in at home before arriving at the airport and in some cases pay the excess baggage in advance, why not offering BOB payment via the web or self-service kiosks? You just hand in the voucher aboard and get served. No payment, no change... less time involved. They could also offer "miles for food" for frequent flyers.
 
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RE: Which BA & Bmi Domestic Flights Serve Breakfast?

Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:13 pm

I think when they introduced the BOB, they whould have considered the time restraints on short routes and the fact not all passengers might get served. An extra cabin crew member might solve this but then that would be an added expense, just cheaper to give soft drinks or juice free of charge surely?
 
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RE: Which BA & Bmi Domestic Flights Serve Breakfast?

Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:37 pm

I am flying BD MAN-LHR-MAN next week & I didnt realise that they dont serve even coffee without charge. If you see the tckt price for that flight its 140£ one way for tiny fares, & all their other fares are more than that. Surely with fares like that, the least you can expect is a cup of coffee.
I must confess, I dont mind if theres nothing to eat served on short haul or even medium haul, but I get very grumpy if the airline wont serve even tea/coffee. Thats basic according to me.

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RE: Which BA & Bmi Domestic Flights Serve Breakfast?

Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:43 pm

Make sure your in a row near the front with the requisite amount of change or else you will go thirsty. Its crazy now on a full BMI short flight.
 
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RE: Which BA & Bmi Domestic Flights Serve Breakfast?

Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:47 pm

Quoting AI (Reply 11):
I am flying BD MAN-LHR-MAN next week & I didnt realise that they dont serve even coffee without charge. If you see the tckt price for that flight its 140£ one way for tiny fares, & all their other fares are more than that. Surely with fares like that, the least you can expect is a cup of coffee.
I must confess, I dont mind if theres nothing to eat served on short haul or even medium haul, but I get very grumpy if the airline wont serve even tea/coffee. Thats basic according to me.

A) Why did you pay £140 one-way? You can get central Manchester-central London by train for under £10 and it takes 2 1/2 hours.
B) You can get tea/coffee - if you pay for it.
C) As you frequent A.net you must have known what you would and would not get.
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RE: Which BA & Bmi Domestic Flights Serve Breakfast?

Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:07 pm

Dont bank on a tea or coffee reaching your seat row if the flight is full, you wont even have the chance to buy one. At least on [email protected] FR, the cabin crew are expert at delivering a quick BOB service and all passengers get served. A BD 320/321 from MAN-LHR is hard work for a cabin crew who are used to handing out free drinks which are much less time consuming than taking orders and processing monies. They are rushed off their feet and always seem so sorry for requesting money for drinks after all those years of complimentary drinks.
 
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RE: Which BA & Bmi Domestic Flights Serve Breakfast?

Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:18 pm

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 14):
Dont bank on a tea or coffee reaching your seat row if the flight is full, you wont even have the chance to buy one. At least on [email protected] FR, the cabin crew are expert at delivering a quick BOB service and all passengers get served. A BD 320/321 from MAN-LHR is hard work for a cabin crew who are used to handing out free drinks which are much less time consuming than taking orders and processing monies. They are rushed off their feet and always seem so sorry for requesting money for drinks after all those years of complimentary drinks.

You don't half go overboard.  Wink "They are rushed off their feet." They are employed to do that - it's one of their roles. God forbid working hard for your money.
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RE: Which BA & Bmi Domestic Flights Serve Breakfast?

Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:25 pm

Im cancelling our date! No honestly, they do struggle on a full flight. I imagine they would love an extra pair of hands though. Im always impressed with the speed of service from Ryanair cabin crews even on short hops, everyone seems to get served.
 
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RE: Which BA & Bmi Domestic Flights Serve Breakfast?

Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:27 pm

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 16):
Im always impressed with the speed of service from Ryanair cabin crews even on short hops, everyone seems to get served.

Actually, on my last FR flight (SVQ-STN) it seemed like almost everyone was buying stuff, so it took probably 45 minutes to get to us sitting in row 22.
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RE: Which BA & Bmi Domestic Flights Serve Breakfast?

Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:16 pm

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 13):

[email protected], thanks for your reply.
I booked my flight some time back, so I havent paid 140£ oneway, but somebody booking it now would have to pay that much. I doubt if you would find 10£ fares on virgin trains now for travel this week as well.
Unfortunately, I need to get into London quite early, which means I cant use the train, or else I have to arrive the previous day & spend the night in a hotel - not something that I want to do.

& yes I maybe a frequent A-Netter, but I honestly didnt realise that BD have stopped serving even tea/coffee in their flights. I sure wont forget that.

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RE: Which BA & Bmi Domestic Flights Serve Breakfast?

Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:25 pm

Quoting AI (Reply 18):
& yes I maybe a frequent A-Netter, but I honestly didnt realise that BD have stopped serving even tea/coffee in their flights. I sure wont forget that.

Why didn't you book BA?
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RE: Which BA & Bmi Domestic Flights Serve Breakfast?

Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:07 am

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 14):
Dont bank on a tea or coffee reaching your seat row if the flight is full, you wont even have the chance to buy one.

Yes, you have already said that, regardless of it being true or not.

Being a frequent bmi flyer, I can wholeheartedly say that you are full of hot air. They simply are not *that* bad. The staff are 9/10 times more attentive and professional than BA staff. I do get drinks and food free thanks to a premium card, but regardless, its hardly a large price to pay, especially on a 30 minute flight. Do you work for BA or something? Someone really has one mighty bee under their bonnet

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Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:17 pm

I dont work for any airline and I am a big fan of BMI regional who I often use out of LBA so Im not down on all of BD!
 
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RE: Which BA & Bmi Domestic Flights Serve Breakfast?

Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:44 pm

Quoting AI (Reply 11):
am flying BD MAN-LHR-MAN next week & I didnt realise that they dont serve even coffee without charge.

Unless you are getting a connecting flight at LHR, Virgin Trains in 1st class would offer much better service at a lower price.
 
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RE: Which BA & Bmi Domestic Flights Serve Breakfast?

Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:04 pm

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 2):
Funny how BD have come full circle. I remember when they started their domestic routes, it were they and not BA who offered hot meals and a high class of service

Sorry Orion737. It was British Caledonian who first started serving hot breakfasts on UK Domestic flights, not BD.

Back in the 1970s BD was a relatively small airline. The UK's second force airline was then British Caledonian who were not allowed access to LHR and therefore had to make UK domestic services from LGW more attractive to the businessman. Whilst the normal BA (or BEA) in-flight catering for all UK domestic flights in the 70s was tea/coffee and an individual packet of biscuits, BCal went further and offered hot snacks on all UK domestic flights. The breakfasts were better than anything offered by BA. As well as the normal "Full English" (or as near as they could get it in flight), there were small touches like fine marmalade and preserves from Dundee (to reflect the Caledonian image), during the winter flights departing from Scotland even served hot porridge with breakfast, and even the first grouse of the season was usually served on a BCal EDI-LGW flight!

It was due to the enhanced catering on BCal's UK Domestic flights that BA retaliated and also started offering hot breakfasts in lieu of the tea/coffee and individual packet of digestives/rich tea etc.

The last time I flew BA LGW-MAN, they served a full cooked breakfast. It seemed a miracle that the cabin crew could serve breakfast to a full flight, then separately serve tea/coffee and clear everything before landing at MAN 50 mins after departure from LGW.
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RE: Which BA & Bmi Domestic Flights Serve Breakfast?

Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:41 pm

Quoting Edina (Reply 1):
BA - all departures ex LHR/GLA/EDI before 0930 to the whole cabin.

I was looking at LHR-EDI in January (on BA's website) specifically BA1438 dep 08.55 Mon 07/01/2008 no mention of hot/full breakfast. They do state complimentary snacks and drinks though and all for 89.50 rtn (evening same day return).
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RE: Which BA & Bmi Domestic Flights Serve Breakfast?

Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:43 pm

Quoting EDICHC (Reply 24):
I was looking at LHR-EDI in January (on BA's website) specifically BA1438 dep 08.55 Mon 07/01/2008 no mention of hot/full breakfast. They do state complimentary snacks and drinks though and all for 89.50 rtn (evening same day return).

Have checked with catering as it stands now the following flights ex LHR offer Full Breakfast Service

BA1432/BA1434 and BA1438 ex LGW BA2934/BA2936 ex LCY BA8700/BA8794

RETURN EX EDI

BA1433/BA1435/BA1439 to LHR BA2931/BA2935 to LGW and BA8701/BA8711/BA8703 to LCY

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RE: Which BA & Bmi Domestic Flights Serve Breakfast?

Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:03 am

Quoting ThePRGuy (Reply 20):
I do get drinks and food free thanks to a premium card, but regardless, its hardly a large price to pay, especially on a 30 minute flight. Do you work for BA or something? Someone really has one mighty bee under their bonnet

You get free catering thanks to your card, whereas all BA pax get food even on the MAN-LHR route which is only 30 min flying time.
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RE: Which BA & Bmi Domestic Flights Serve Breakfast?

Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:41 am

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 21):
I dont work for any airline and I am a big fan of BMI regional who I often use out of LBA so Im not down on all of BD!

Fair enough.

Quoting AIR MALTA (Reply 26):
You get free catering thanks to your card, whereas all BA pax get food even on the MAN-LHR route which is only 30 min flying time.

Not always, actually. I've flown BA LON-MAN 3 times in the last year and only once were we offered anything complimentary bar water and tea. Anyone know why this was? These were evening/early night flights.
And some bmi flights are still complimentary, bizarrely.

In the end its a £1 investment for a cheap breakfast, I'd rather fly an airline I like on an alliance I like than (usually) pay more for BA, receive generally poor service and get a budget meal and instant coffee!

Food is not all what it is about!

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RE: Which BA & Bmi Domestic Flights Serve Breakfast?

Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:32 am

Quoting BAOPS777 (Reply 25):
Have checked with catering as it stands now the following flights ex LHR offer Full Breakfast Service

BA1432/BA1434 and BA1438 ex LGW BA2934/BA2936 ex LCY BA8700/BA8794

RETURN EX EDI

BA1433/BA1435/BA1439 to LHR BA2931/BA2935 to LGW and BA8701/BA8711/BA8703 to LCY

Thanks for the info....perhaps someone should give that info to whoever manages the BA website!
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