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CRJ900 Thread

Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:01 pm

Hey all,

Just wanted to bring up a few issues with the CRJ900 in one thread instead of starting numerous ones.

1. According to the press release on the Bombardier website, the last order for the CRJ900 was made by ALMA de Mexico for 2 aircraft on August 8th. Any potential new orders for this aircraft in the next little while?

2. Will Tatarstan Airlines continue adding the CRJ900 to their fleet even though the Russian authorities have not given the green light for carriers to operate this model? (Think the Canadian Government will respond by not issuing a certificate for the Sukhoi Superjet to operate in Canada?)

Cheers,

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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:30 pm

Quoting CRJ900X (Thread starter):
1. According to the press release on the Bombardier website, the last order for the CRJ900 was made by ALMA de Mexico for 2 aircraft on August 8th. Any potential new orders for this aircraft in the next little while?

DL might order more(i hope so replace more CR2s)
 
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:48 pm

Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 1):
Quoting CRJ900X (Thread starter):
1. According to the press release on the Bombardier website, the last order for the CRJ900 was made by ALMA de Mexico for 2 aircraft on August 8th. Any potential new orders for this aircraft in the next little while?

DL might order more(i hope so replace more CR2s)

I would almost guarantee it eventually. First, they have to digest the MASSIVE orders they have going on for it. Once that settles down, I'd bet we'll see more on the SkyWest side for more SLC flying, since so many have been moved out to ATL. We may even eventually see them popping up on the DL Connection side at LAX for routes that mature well and warrant more lift than just ExpressJet ERJs.
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:50 pm

LH ordered a few very recently along with some E-Jets.
 
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:58 am

Got another question:

I flew the CRJ-900 with Lufthansa Regional on AMS-MUC-AMS last week the last 2 rows were unassigned to passengers, while the rest of the aircraft was virtually full. This led me to believe that it is because of weight and balance issues. However, on the flight back I asked at the gate if I could get a window seat and did get a seat in the last 2 rows (and I was the only one there at that time). When I was on board, 3 other people took seats there as well, and the cabin crew didn't seem to mind, so obviously they weren't blocked. Can someone explain why they don't assign them in the first place?
 
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:25 am

Quoting JRadier (Reply 4):
Can someone explain why they don't assign them in the first place?

I also flew LH CRJ900 this summer NCE-MUC and the last two rows were empty. I spoke to the FA about what it is like to work onboard and she said it is a nice aircraft to work on, and pax generally like it except for the last rows where the engine noise is quite loud. Perhaps it's a "service feature" to keep the pax away from too much engine noise...? Also, the FA had extra work space as she put the cart in the aisle (by the empty seats) while stocking it up from the rear galley.

Quoting CRJ900X (Thread starter):
2. Will Tatarstan Airlines continue adding the CRJ900 to their fleet even though the Russian authorities have not given the green light for carriers to operate this model?

I read somewhere that Tatarstan had leased all aircraft out because of what you mention. I have not seen any pics of Tatarstan CRJ900s.

I read in a thread here that an Indian carrier was to lease CRJ700 and CRJ900. Hope it was more than just a rumour.

BBD has presented a NextGen CRJ900 in NWA livery to LH, I guess they are trying to entice LH to exercise the 15 options into firm orders.

I'm curious about the actual range of the CRJ900LR. BBD's website say it can fly 3,385 km with 86 pax. Can it really fly that far?
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:50 am

Quoting CRJ900X (Thread starter):
2. Will Tatarstan Airlines continue adding the CRJ900 to their fleet even though the Russian authorities have not given the green light for carriers to operate this model? (Think the Canadian Government will respond by not issuing a certificate for the Sukhoi Superjet to operate in Canada?)

Oh no. Please don't endanger a Westjet Superjet order. Actually though I jest (and now fantasize), this recalls the speculation that Westjet might follow JetBlue's order for Emb-190s. And a SSJ would look cool in Westjet livery.
But... to stay on topic..... how about Westjet operating CRJ900s?
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:12 pm

Quoting JRadier (Reply 4):
I flew the CRJ-900 with Lufthansa Regional on AMS-MUC-AMS last week the last 2 rows were unassigned to passengers, while the rest of the aircraft was virtually full. This led me to believe that it is because of weight and balance issues. However, on the flight back I asked at the gate if I could get a window seat and did get a seat in the last 2 rows (and I was the only one there at that time). When I was on board, 3 other people took seats there as well, and the cabin crew didn't seem to mind, so obviously they weren't blocked. Can someone explain why they don't assign them in the first place?



Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 5):
I also flew LH CRJ900 this summer NCE-MUC and the last two rows were empty. I spoke to the FA about what it is like to work onboard and she said it is a nice aircraft to work on, and pax generally like it except for the last rows where the engine noise is quite loud. Perhaps it's a "service feature" to keep the pax away from too much engine noise...? Also, the FA had extra work space as she put the cart in the aisle (by the empty seats) while stocking it up from the rear galley.

it is combination of both points. people really care much about the noise level and ask often at check-in for seats far away from the engines. another point is to disembark the aircraft at last if seated in the very last rows. I know it is stupid because everybody have to wait in the bus until the last pax came out, but people don't think about that, they only want to get out at first therefore ask for seats in the front.  Wink
I heard that the CRJ900 has a very good weight&balance performance and the limits are very very high, but I'm not the specialist on that so anybody of you with more information could enlighten us.

how many airlines currently ops the C900?

- Lufthansa Regional
- US Airways Express
- Delta
- Adria Airways
- Atlasjet
- Iberia / Air Nostrum
- Air One
- MAT - Macedonian

Do you know any others and do you know the number of aircrafts opt by these airlines?
 
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:20 pm

On a similar vein - is the CRJ1000 still proceeding as planned?
 
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:22 pm

Thanks Stylo!

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 7):
how many airlines currently ops the C900?

Add Air Canada Jazz to that list. They operate CRJ-705's which are CRJ-900's, only certified for 75 passengers instead of 90 passengers..
 
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:01 pm

Have Air Nostrum any more on order???
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:18 pm

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 7):

- Lufthansa Regional
- US Airways Express
- Delta
- Adria Airways
- Atlasjet
- Iberia / Air Nostrum
- Air One
- MAT - Macedonian

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Arik Air (?) (4?)
 
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:42 pm

Hi all,

my wife told me that Tunisair is operating on Monday a TUN-ORN flight with CR9 equipment.

Has anyone in this forum able to confirm if this flight is operated on behalf other company (read as Tatarstan Airlines former aircrafts)?

Regards,

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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:52 pm

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 7):
how many airlines currently ops the C900?

- Lufthansa Regional
- US Airways Express
- Delta
- Adria Airways
- Atlasjet
- Iberia / Air Nostrum
- Air One
- MAT - Macedonian

Wasn't Pinnacle ordering the CR9 for NW Airlink?
 
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:26 pm

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 11):
Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 7):

- Lufthansa Regional
- US Airways Express
- Delta
- Adria Airways
- Atlasjet
- Iberia / Air Nostrum
- Air One
- MAT - Macedonian

MyAir (4)
Arik Air (?) (4?)

- NW (operated by Mesaba)
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:31 pm

Quoting PiedmontINT (Reply 13):
Wasn't Pinnacle ordering the CR9 for NW Airlink?

No. Pinnacle's CR9s are flown for DL. Mesaba operates the CR9 for NWA.
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:10 pm

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 5):
I read somewhere that Tatarstan had leased all aircraft out because of what you mention. I have not seen any pics of Tatarstan CRJ900s.

I read they were leasing one out to VIP customers, there's a picture of it around here somewhere.

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 12):

Has anyone in this forum able to confirm if this flight is operated on behalf other company (read as Tatarstan Airlines former aircrafts)?

TU's subsidary Tuninter was rebranded as Sevenair and flies x1 CRJ-900.


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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:57 am

Even though no airline has opted for the feature, are the 900s still available with an aft galley door?
 
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:32 am

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 16):
Tuninter was rebranded as Sevenair and flies x1 CRJ-900.

Is that sole CRJ900 a Tatarstan bird or did they order it from BBD?

Quoting Flyboy80 (Reply 17):
are the 900s still available with an aft galley door?

I wonder about that too, as well as on the CRJ1000. I read a reply in a thread here a while back that the GECAS rear galley config (Galley 5 + Galley 6) made the aircraft too tail heavy... LH has a three-cart galley in the back of their CRJ900, though, and their aircraft haven't tipped backwards yet  Smile
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:50 am

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 16):
TU's subsidary Tuninter was rebranded as Sevenair and flies x1 CRJ-900.

They even have ordered a 2nd one to be delivered in 2008.
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Thu Oct 18, 2007 11:36 am

Quoting Voodoo (Reply 6):
how about Westjet operating CRJ900s?

Yeah, how about that? 80-84 seats @ 32-34 inch pitch with seatback IFE, just like AC Jazz, for thinner routes. Would be a hit, I'm sure.

Quoting Acelanzarote (Reply 10):
Have Air Nostrum any more on order???

I think Air Nostrum ordered 16 and have received 11 so far.

Quoting TOLtommy (Reply 15):
Pinnacle's CR9s are flown for DL. Mesaba operates the CR9 for NWA.

76-seat two-class CRJ900s are becoming very popular in the US... how are the operating economics vs 84-90-seat CRJ900s flying in Europe? Do those 12 First class seats (with higher prices) save the day, financially, or is the CRJ900 so economical already with, say, 74-76 Y-seats that 80-90 seats means pure profits? I have read in threads here over the years that the CRJ900 is only slightly more expensive to operate than the 70-seat CRJ700. Apparently US/Mesa's 86-seat CRJ900 are big money makers...?
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Thu Oct 18, 2007 2:51 pm

LH has a galley in the back on the 900? So they use the full size carts or the half carts?
 
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:30 pm

Quoting Flyboy80 (Reply 17):
Even though no airline has opted for the feature, are the 900s still available with an aft galley door?

Yes, it remains an option, however it is at the expense of at least two seats.

Quoting Flyboy80 (Reply 21):
LH has a galley in the back on the 900? So they use the full size carts or the half carts?

Three half carts in the aft, giving available space for 13 half carts total.
 
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:25 pm

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 20):
Apparently US/Mesa's 86-seat CRJ900 are big money makers...?

Yes they are. I only wish they'd put FC in the CRJ-900/700 and E-170/175's.
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:47 pm

Maybe not really worth for the topic itself but the CRJ900 is a super comftable aircraft. I flew this year MUC-ZRH on a LH CRJ900 and I was really impressed because I thought it would follow the CRJ family with low windows and not much space but it was really different!

Very nice aircraft and I can´t wait to fly it again.  Smile
 
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:56 pm

Quoting ERAUgrad02 (Reply 23):
I only wish they'd put FC in the CRJ-900/700

I only wish they'd put more windows in the things. I flew on one a couple of weeks ago, and it seemed as though each window seat actually only had 1/2 a window to use.

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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:00 am

Arik Air ordered three more CRJ-900's (not yet announced officially though).
 
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:00 pm

Libyan Arab Airlines will fly them!
 
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:38 pm

Quoting ENU (Reply 26):
Arik Air ordered three more CRJ-900's (not yet announced officially though).



Quoting ENU (Reply 26):
Libyan Arab Airlines will fly them!

So, the 3 x CRJ900 announced for Libyan some months ago were ordered by Arik but sold/leased to Libyan? Or will Libyan take 3 plus 3 more?
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:43 pm

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 28):
So, the 3 x CRJ900 announced for Libyan some months ago were ordered by Arik but sold/leased to Libyan? Or will Libyan take 3 plus 3 more?

I don't think the two comments are related. I expect Arik Air to operate the CRJ-900's themselves.
 
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:58 pm

Quoting CGOJZ (Reply 22):
Quoting Flyboy80 (Reply 17):
Even though no airline has opted for the feature, are the 900s still available with an aft galley door?

Yes, it remains an option, however it is at the expense of at least two seats.

At bombardier.com, the Regional Update, October 2007 issue mentions this about the CRJ1000 NextGen design: "removal of structural provisions for previously unselected options." I guess that spells the end of ordering the aft galley door on all NextGen 900 and 1000...? Also, seats and windows will be better aligned, apparently, at least on the 1000.
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Sun Oct 28, 2007 11:05 pm

I recently flew on a Mesa CRJ 900 - not sure how I felt about it -- I was in the exit row with a man who didn't speak english -- bag was all out in the row -- and the seat was rather uncomfortable. The flight attendant even said it was the worst seat on the plane. It was probably just the seat. I liked the large windows and the cabin felt spacious when standing -- but the aisle...can't BMD do something about the aisle...just another inch wider?
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Sun Oct 28, 2007 11:17 pm

Quoting ATWZW170 (Reply 31):
and the cabin felt spacious when standing

I recon you're not that tall  Silly. Damn, I hate regionals.
 
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Sun Oct 28, 2007 11:53 pm

Well, I'm 5 10 -- so not that short.
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:41 am

Quoting ATWZW170 (Reply 31):

I agree with you on that.. I found the exit row to be horribly uncomfortable and it was mostly the seat I thought. There is not an armrest (at least on the Mesa / US Ex CR9s) on the exit rows, the seat seems to be less padded than a normal seat, and the old green HP seats are so damn itchy and poorly designed in general.

However, that being said, you can give me a PSA CR7 anyday of the week Big grin
 
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:06 am

Quoting JRadier (Reply 32):
Damn, I hate regionals.

Hopefully, you'll have a chance to fly on SSJ100. It's expected to provide unprecedented comfort amongst competing regionals with 18 1/4" arm-to-arm seat width, 20" aisle width and 85" floor to ceiling.  Smile
 
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:07 pm

Quoting PiedmontINT (Reply 34):
However, that being said, you can give me a PSA CR7 anyday of the week

Those are nice jets. I wish PSA got another 20 CR7s. I think it's the right plane for them. And Piedmont should get some Q400s. Evidently no one at US is eager to order BBD though  Sad
 
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:50 pm

PSA Mangment is negotating with the pilots on new planes, but we are hearing 900s and 1000s.
 
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:24 pm

Pinnacle is supposed to take delivery on their first 2 CRJ900s for DL today.
 
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:27 pm

Quoting PiedmontINT (Reply 34):
on the exit rows, the seat seems to be less padded than a normal seat

If you're referring to the seat right next to the exit itself, on all carriers where the seat is within so many inches of the exit the cushion is required by the FAA to be thinner than those around it to allow for greater clearance of the exit hatch as it's removed during an evacuation.
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:02 am

PSA pilots wont ever take the pay that Doug Parker wants to pay to operate the CRJ 900. Heck, regionals are going for each others throats to the point where we are killing ourselves -- at some point the employee groups need to take a stand and not accept substandard wages, benefits and work rules.
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RE: CRJ900 Thread

Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:50 am

Quoting ATWZW170 (Reply 40):
PSA pilots wont ever take the pay that Doug Parker wants to pay to operate the CRJ 900. Heck, regionals are going for each others throats to the point where we are killing ourselves -- at some point the employee groups need to take a stand and not accept substandard wages, benefits and work rules.

Yeah, and then you have more Horizon's in the world. It's to the point now where a quality of life issue comes into play. Horizon pays more, so naturally theres a longer upgrade time, by time one hits that upgrade they typically turn into a lifer because to go over to someone else, outside of maybe fedex and WN is close to pointless pay wise.

But Yes, I agree, Pinnicle, Trans, Mesa..few others in particular really need to do something, it could be a lot better.

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