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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:26 am

click here and see the third news item

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Sikh air passengers will no longer have to remove their turbans at US screening checkpoints if doing so makes them uncomfortable under new guidelines coming into force on October 27.

The new Transportation Security Administration (TSA) guidelines announced on Tuesday give airport screeners the option to pat down headwear at the metal detector if a passenger does not want to remove it for personal reasons.

The TSA has now removed turbans from its screener guidance. In addition, the TSA will provide all its field employees with mandatory cultural awareness training about Sikh practices.

another link: link 2 - newsday.com
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:11 pm

Quoting Cricket (Reply 4):
the one at Nagpur took a 737-800 out of the picture

How long was it AOG.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:24 am

Railways overtake airlines in fare battle.
http://www1.economictimes.indiatimes...are_battle/articleshow/2479385.cms

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In the race of price war, Lalu’s railways seems to have overtaken budget airlines like SpiceJet, GoAir, Air Deccan and IndiGo. Even as fuel price hike forced airlines to increase airfares by 6-10%, competitor reduced rail fares by 5% across the board.

With aviation turbine fuel (ATF) prices going up significantly and consolidation leading airlines to focus on their bottom line, budget carriers increased fares in the range of Rs 500-600 per passenger in the last six month. At the same time, railways reduced fares by about 5% across the board in 2007-08, removing reservation and superfast charges.

All this has resulted in the talk about airlines luring second class railway passengers a thing of the past. With low-cost leader Air Deccan taken over, and airlines realising that too much red-ink on balance sheets is not good for them, the race is over.

That has left railway officials triumphant and bullish. “Fares were reduced 10% across the board in 2006-07 and 4-6% in 2007-08. Again we could expect a pleasant surprise this year also as it is the election budget. Also, all extra charges like reservation charges, superfast charges have been removed on different routes,” a Rail Bhawan official told ET.

Wooing high-paying rail travellers, low-cost airlines had offered competitive and cheaper fares with an eye on market share. This resulted in huge loss to the airlines, forcing some to stop schemes of Rs 50 and Rs 100 tickets.

“The basic fares have remained same as compared to six months back except a few routes such Delhi-Goa. The tax component has increased to Rs 1,475 during this period from Rs 975 earlier. On some of the routes, fares have doubled,” said SpiceJet CEO Siddhanta Sharma.

In the last three months alone, airlines had to levy a fuel surcharge of Rs 250 per ticket. “We are not in a position to absorb any extra cost. We have to pass on the increased burden to consumers,” he said. “There are chances that ATF price would go up and up only, forcing airlines to increase fare but fuel price hike may not necessarily lead to increase in tier II AC train fares,” said Boeing senior vice-president, sales, Dinesh A Keskar.

But some of the budget carriers still feel they are more competitive than railways. “We sell about 65% of our tickets at least one month in advance. The tickets booked one month or two months in advance are cheaper than rail fares,” GoAir managing director Jeh Wadia argued
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:20 pm

http://dm.airliners.net/discussions/...eneral_aviation/read.main/3666720/
New thread: San Jose airport lures Indian carriers with sops.

[Edited 2007-10-22 16:21:30]

[Edited 2007-10-22 16:22:25]
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:02 am

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 52):
Railways overtake airlines in fare battle.

It is a puff piece for the railways.. it was only for a very short period of time that II AC fares were at par with air-fares. Anyway, even if it costs Rs 5000 return on LCC's DEL-BOM-DEL versus say Rs 4000 on a Rajdhani and even if you factor in that taxi fare to the airport could be more, it is a decision of 20 hours versus 4-5 hours all told... Why for example do most BOM-AMD flights go full, whereas the Shatabdi is still relatively empty. Times and convinience.

Time is money and for someone without much time in hand, the railways are over until they start high-speed rail-links and not fare cuts is the answer!
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:49 am

Quoting Blrsea (Reply 44):
Thanks for the feedback about CDG guys. I have read too many people on this thread advising against using CDG, especially if connection time is less. I looked up the schedule again, and it is a difference of 2 hr 10 min. Flight from SEA reaches CDG at 8:50am, and flight to BLR leaves at 11:00am. On the return journey, flight from BLR reaches CDG at 8:25AM and flight to SEA leaves at 10:45AM, a difference of 2 hr 20 mins. Is this better or should I not consider transit through CDG at all?

Hi Blrsea,

Please relax !! All should work out just fine for you !!
When are you flying ?
A lot more gates will open next sunday, and the India-Usa will be all put next to each other with the start of the Winter schedule.
Since last June things improved a LOT with the opening of the new boarding satellite.

Enjoy your flights
Cheers

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:14 pm

Quoting CDG" class=quote target=_blank>CDG (Reply 55):
A lot more gates will open next sunday, and the India-Usa will be all put next to each other with the start of the Winter schedule.

That's good to know. I do have plans for a LAX-CDG-MAA on AF, with a stopover in Paris on the way out.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:36 pm

Quoting Alangirvan (Reply 47):
I read about Sapphire in Airliner World, and I see there was some discussion in thread 54. Does this airline look serious? Has it progressed since June?

Then dont have any application with DOT for route authority for US-India services yet! Is this another paper airline?
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:43 pm

PIA schedules showing 737 from KHI to both DEL and BOM for the first time ever, also 777 back to BOM once a week, BOM now getting all PK jet fleet.

PLANNED SCHEDULE - Delhi

To : Karachi

28-Oct-07 1-Dec-07 0273 2:30 PM 4:00 PM 737 Y 0
23-Sep-07 27-Oct-07 0273 2:30 PM 4:00 PM 310 C,P,Y 0
28-Oct-07 1-Dec-07 0273 2:30 PM 4:00 PM 310 C,P,Y 0
23-Sep-07 27-Oct-07 0273 2:30 PM 4:00 PM 310 C,P,Y 0
28-Oct-07 1-Dec-07 0273 3:30 PM 5:00 PM 310 C,P,Y 0

To : Lahore

28-Oct-07 1-Dec-07 0271 5:40 PM 6:20 PM 737 Y 0

PLANNED SCHEDULE - Mumbai

To : Karachi

28-Oct-07 25-Jan-08 0275 12:55 PM 2:15 PM 772 C,P,Y 0
28-Oct-07 25-Jan-08 0275 12:55 PM 2:15 PM 310 C,P,Y 0
28-Oct-07 25-Jan-08 0275 12:55 PM 2:15 PM 310 C,P,Y 0
28-Oct-07 25-Jan-08 0275 12:55 PM 2:15 PM 737 Y 0
24-Oct-07 26-Oct-07 0275 2:10 PM 3:30 PM 310 C,P,Y 0
24-Oct-07 26-Oct-07 0275 2:10 PM 3:30 PM 743 C,P,Y 0
27-Oct-07 27-Oct-07 0275 2:10 PM 3:30 PM 310 C,P,Y 0
28-Oct-07 25-Jan-08 0275 4:10 PM 5:30 PM 74M C,P,Y 0
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:05 am

Twice-a-week, daytime flights to Kuala Lumpur from Chennai.
http://www.hindu.com/2007/10/23/stories/2007102359330500.htm

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Beginning October 28 Malaysia Airlines will launch a twice-a-week daytime flight between Chennai and Kuala Lumpur.
The airline currently operates seven night flights every week from Chennai. The additional service will be on every Thursday and Sunday, leaving Chennai at 12.50 p.m. and reaching Kuala Lumpur at 7.10 p.m. local time.

The daytime service will make it easier for Chennai passengers to connect to various destinations, Devinder Singh Bindra, marketing manager (South Asia), Malaysia Airlines, said here on Monday. “Passengers will only have to wait for two hours to connect to destinations in China, South Africa, Japan and New Zealand.”

The current night service arrives at Kuala Lumpur at 4.25 a.m. local time. The airline will also introduce a new service from Bangalore to Kuala Lumpur from November 3, increasing its frequency to four flights a week.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:21 pm

Quoting CDG" class=quote target=_blank>CDG (Reply 55):
Hi Blrsea,

Please relax !! All should work out just fine for you !!
When are you flying ?
A lot more gates will open next sunday, and the India-Usa will be all put next to each other with the start of the Winter schedule.
Since last June things improved a LOT with the opening of the new boarding satellite.

Enjoy your flights
Cheers

CDG

= Having just flown through CDG yesterday (TR to follow), I can sadly say nothing has really improved ... and then there is the omnious threat of industrial action. Good luck if you use CDG. Do write us a TR.

Cheers,
A.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:21 pm

Boeing Dreamliner delivery to AI delayed by 4 months.
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/002200710241757.htm

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The delivery schedule of Boeing's B-787 Dreamliner to Air India has been delayed by four months, but it would not affect the operations of the national carrier which has ordered 27 of these long-haul aircraft. The US aircraft manufacturer has informed Air India, which is the third launch customer of this next-generation plane, about the delay.

While the first customer, All Nippon Airways of Japan, would get its first B-787 six months later than scheduled, the delivery to Air India could be delayed by about four months only, a senior airline official said, adding that the first of these aircraft could be inducted by the third quarter of next year.

"Our operations will not be affected by this as we have not yet finalised our schedules for these planes," the official said in reply to questions. The national carrier could operate these aircraft for direct flights to the US, Europe or Australia and China.

To questions regarding the operations of the low-cost carrier Air India Express, the official said though the airline was primarily focused on international operations, it would also start domestic services from the winter season.


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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:28 pm

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 61):
a senior airline official said, adding that the first of these aircraft could be inducted by the third quarter of next year.

Bull sh#$t they were originally expected to take delivery in that time frame, add 4 months to that and we are looking at early 2009.

Which means more life in the aging fleet of the worlds largest A310 pax operator

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:19 am

Jet airways to operate from Karipur from Jan '08.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...rom_Jan_08/articleshow/2487479.cms

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Private carrier Jet Airways will start its services from the Karipur international airport here from January 2008, Union Minister of State for External Affairs E Ahamed said on Wednesday. "The airways will initially operate in sectors other than the UAE," he told reporters here.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:14 am

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 61):
which is the third launch customer of this next-generation plane, about the delay.

I thought it was ANA, NW and Royal Air Maroc who were launching the plane.. AI would be among the first 10 customers, but third?
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:29 am

Quoting Cricket (Reply 64):
ANA, NW and Royal Air Maroc who were launching the plane.

Cricket all these get the 6 +2 test beds, but even i dont feel AI is the 3rd launch customer

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:51 pm

Oh yeah, I saw a ATR-42 in AI colours at DEL last night, was in the bus and couldn't take my camera out, though I did feel that all the vehicles on the apron were moving a lot slower than usual, I guess because of the tragic death of the Deccan engineer.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:23 pm

Interesting article on India-China aviation routes or lack of it.

http://chasingthedragon.blogs.fortun...na-india-business-travel/#comments

On a related not, where is 9W with beginning the India-PVG-SFO route.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:31 pm

AI DEL-JFK Non-Stop From Feb. 08 (by LAXDESI Oct 25 2007 in Civil Aviation)
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:21 pm

BZ 3rd B752SPF arrived today.This is RB211-535E4 powered.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:22 am

 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:44 am

Quoting Manny (Reply 67):
Interesting article on India-China aviation routes or lack of it.

Weirdly Chinese airlines have been very aggressive MU (I think, because that is what a friend's ticket says) is starting a Kolkata-Kunming service on a 737 in October. MU's DEL-PVG service has gone from the initial once a week to 4x and there are plans for the service to go Daily.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:59 pm

BA lists India 2nd largest market after US

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Observing that India was a 'voluminous route', British Airways has listed the country as the second largest market after the US and the third after Australia in terms of its revenue share.

The premier airline, which used to operate 19 weekly flights to Indian destinations two years ago, now operates 43 services from London Heathrow to five cities in India.

"India will be the next biggest after the US in the long-haul market. ... As far as revenues are concerned, India is the third largest closely competing with Australia (in the second place after the US). Our plans are to stay big here," Robbie Baird, BA's area general manager for the Asia-Pacific region, told PTI.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:43 pm

Hi,

I had a question about BOM airport....I noticed a lot of new and extremely good pics taken from the Eastern end of Rwy 27....in many of these pics, you can see an IT A320 parked at a remote stand near the international terminal....question is, why are these planes parked out there when they should preferably be closer to the domestic terminal...?
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:53 pm

Article mentioning 9W new first class suites. As always there are slight inaccuracies about destinations currently served.

http://money.cnn.com/2007/10/24/life...s/index.htm?postversion=2007102609
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:57 pm

Quoting Cricket (Reply 71):
Weirdly Chinese airlines have been very aggressive MU (I think, because that is what a friend's ticket says) is starting a Kolkata-Kunming service on a 737 in October. MU's DEL-PVG service has gone from the initial once a week to 4x and there are plans for the service to go Daily.

I see your point. But are the services enough to satisfy market demand ? Or other third country carriers like CX, TG, ANA walking away with lions share of the Indo-China market ?
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Sat Oct 27, 2007 3:37 am

Quoting Manny (Reply 67):
On a related not, where is 9W with beginning the India-PVG-SFO route.

This was recently posted.

http://www.business-standard.com/com...page_c.php?leftnm=10&autono=302421
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:11 am

Quoting Manny (Reply 75):
I see your point. But are the services enough to satisfy market demand ? Or other third country carriers like CX, TG, ANA walking away with lions share of the Indo-China market ?

CX??? CX can hardly meet India-HKG demand with the restrictive bilateral over there. What is pretty crazy is that very often you end up flying quite a way south just to get up anywhere in China. Thai, Malaysian and Singapore are the biggest gainers!
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:34 pm

Kingfisher acquires 45.97% of Air-Deccan through open offer..
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/..._in_Deccan/articleshow/2495007.cms
fair use..

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The offer opened on September 12, 2007 and closed on October 1, 2007. The notification to the BSE by Edelweiss Capital, the manager to the open offer, indicates that post the offer, while Kingfisher Radio holds 52.586 million shares, UB Overseas has 9.76 million shares which amounts to 62.348 million shares or, 45.97% stake in the Bangalore-based aviation company.

BSE filing..
http://www.bseindia.com/qresann/news...DB2D5-022B-4F8A-856F-02A3AE303D9A}

Looks like IT will use DN certificate to fly abroad.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:50 am

Air India Dubai-Jaipur Flights From Sunday, and Dubai-Lucknow flights from Monday.
http://avindia.blogspot.com/

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The Air India Express will begin its flights to Dubai from here Sunday, making Jaipur the 11th Indian city for the airline to have direct flights to the Gulf. The flights will be on Wednesdays, Fridays and Sundays.

The airliner will also commence its flights from Lucknow to Dubai on Mondays, Thursdays and Saturdays, making it the 12th city to have flights to the Gulf.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:23 am

Jet Airways likely to set up MRO facility in Chennai.
http://www.business-standard.com/com...=302521&leftnm=1&subLeft=0&chkFlg=

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Jet Airways is examining the possibility of locating its aircraft maintenance, repair and overhaul (MRO) operations and flight training academy in Chennai, Chairman Naresh Goyal said on Sunday.

“We are looking at Bangalore, Chennai, Hyderabad to set up an MRO facility. However, Chennai will be a priority location for this operation as well as for setting up a flight training academy,” he said.

He was addressing a function on the launch of Jet’s Chennai-Toronto flight, which will go through Brussels. Union Finance Minister P Chidambaram flagged off the inaugural flight.

Jet Airways is in discussions with a some international players like Lufthansa on the MRO facility and it expects to finalise plans in the next few weeks. The flight academy will train pilots and engineers, and also staff for ground support, commercial operations and inflight crew. The academy will also train staff for other airlines.

Goyal also hinted that Jet Airways would float a dedicated cargo airline next year. He said that with Indian exports soaring there was huge potential for separate cargo operations. Besides, the government had also created a more liberalised regime for imports. Cargo operations account for 6-7 per cent of the Jet’s revenues and the company intends to increase that to 10 per cent this fiscal.

The Airbus 330-200 flight from Chennai to Toronto is the airline’s first long-haul service from the southern region.

The flight takes off from Chennai at 0115 hrs and arrives in Brussels at 0715 hrs. It will depart Brussels at 0915 hrs and arrive in Toronto at 1255 hrs. These times will be changed from November 4. The inaugural economy return fare is Rs 36,000 plus taxes.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:28 am

Jet Airways To Start BOM-PVG-SFO In Feb. 2008 (by LAXDESI Oct 28 2007 in Civil Aviation)
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:19 pm

SilkAir to spread its Indian wing

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SilkAir, the regional wing of Singapore Airlines, would focus the secondary cities of India to start its services soon, so that both tourism and business prospects could be improved, a top company official has said.

Since major cities and metros in the country having already reached a saturation level, it would be fruitful to tap fast growing cities, David Lim, SilkAir's vice-president, Commercial, told reporters on Sunday night at the Coimbatore Airport.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:45 pm

Looks cute!


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Photo © Christian Mueller



Plus DEL's new runway will be called 11/29 DIAL announced today!

So DEL will have 09/27 10/28 and 11/29 Hmmm...
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:41 pm

Quoting Cricket (Reply 84):
Plus DEL's new runway will be called 11/29 DIAL announced today!

Well why are they making it so confusing...why not 10R/28L?? Is it not parallel to the existing 10/28?

weird, very weird for me!!

on this note, any pics of what airside at DEL looks as of now....when is rwy due for completion?
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:50 pm

KLM to add two more flights to HYD, and increase capacity to DEL.
http://www1.economictimes.indiatimes..._Hyderabad/articleshow/2500544.cms

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KLM, Royal Dutch Airlines will operate two more weekly flights between Hyderabad and Amsterdam (from 4 to 6 flights) from this winter and a direct flight between Delhi and Amsterdam will be operated daily.

Additionally, KLM will raise its capacity on its daily flights from Delhi to Amsterdam by 45 per cent by utilising Boeing 747-400, instead of the MD-11 aircraft, announced Sanjeet, India representative and Warner Rootlip, General Manager for India, Nepal, Bangladesh, Bhutan, Sri Lanka and the Maldives.

Duo said, that KLM will introduce its additional fifth frequency between Amsterdam and Hyderabad starting October, 31 while the 6 weekly flight between the two cities will be introduced starting January, 8, 2008. For its services between Amsterdam and Delhi, KLM has deployed a Boeing 747 aircraft from October, 28, with a capacity of 42 seats in World Business Class and 386 seats in Economy Class, Sanjeet said.

KLM's partner Air France will also add an additional frequency on its Chennai-Paris services, thus taking the total number of flights offered by Air France, KLM and Northwest Airlines between India and Europe to 45 weekly flights this winter, Sanjeet said.

Its partner Northwest Airlines will maintain its daily A 330 operations between Mumbai and Amsterdam while Air France will operate daily flights from Bangalore, Delhi and Mumbai to Paris and a four times weekly flight between Chennai and Paris, he added.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:45 pm

Hello, I just returned from a trip to India. As our AI-777 was taxing for take off at Delhi, I must have noticed some 30-40 aircraft, Jet, Kingfisher, Indigo and others parked on the aprons. Since airlines don't make revenue when aircraft are on the ground, does anyone know why so many planes were sitting idle ? It was about 6:00 a.m.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:56 pm

Quoting Tonyban (Reply 87):
Since airlines don't make revenue when aircraft are on the ground, does anyone know why so many planes were sitting idle ? It was about 6:00 a.m.

Probably all of them were being loaded up for the morning rush hour to various Indian destinations.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:47 am

Jet flies back into profit, nets US $ 7 million. JetLite loses nearly $50 million during the first half of the year, which is an improvement over a loss of $170 million over the same period last year.
http://www1.economictimes.indiatimes..._Rs_28_cr_/articleshow/2501082.cms

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In a turnaround aided by higher sales, India’s largest airline by marketshare, Jet Airways, on Monday reported a profit after tax of Rs 28 crore for the June-September ’07 quarter compared to a loss of Rs 55 crore in the same period last year. About 30% of the airline’s revenue now comes from international operations.

Meanwhile, JetLite, the airline’s low-cost subsidiary lost Rs 192 crore in the first half of the year. The airline, that was acquired from the Sahara group earlier this year, had posted a loss of Rs 690 crore in financial year 2006-7. Speaking to ET on the prospects for JetLite, the Jet Airways CEO Wolfgang Prock Schaeur said, 20 of the airline’s 24 planes are operating.

The carrier is expected to come back to profitability in the second half of the year. Jet Airways had loaned about Rs 400 crore to JetLite for its working capital expenses, which have now been repaid. JetLite has raised a similar amount from IDFC.

Jet lost Rs 118 crore on its international routes against a pretax loss of Rs. 111 crore in the same period last year. This was largely on account of the start up of new routes to New York and Toronto.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:47 am

The Press RElease from DIAL

New Delhi, October 29 2007: Indira Gandhi International Airport, Delhi is on its way to join the league of the most modern airports in the world. The development work being carried out by Delhi International Airport (P) Ltd. (DIAL) is well underway, and soon the capital's airport will boast world class infrastructure and passenger amenities.



DIAL has drafted a Master Plan for the development of the airport site, which in its first phase will see the addition of a new runway and an integrated passenger terminal building to serve both international and domestic passengers. In addition, a brand new domestic terminal and a modernized Terminal 2 will serve passengers as well.



Runway 11-29



Work is progressing fast on IGI Airport's third runway; to be christened '11-29'. This runway, at 4430 m will be one of the longest runways in Asia and will feature CAT IIIB Instrument Landing System at both ends. This equipment will allow landings in visibility as low as 50 m. This 60 m wide, Code F runway will also cater to new generation large aircrafts such as the Airbus A380.



Work on the runway and associated taxiways is more than 50% complete and the runway will be commissioned in mid 2008. The commissioning of the new runway will increase IGI Airport's capacity to handle aircraft movements substantially, making flight delays and congestion a thing of the past.



Construction of the runway is a feat in modern engineering, involving an astounding 1.1 million m³ of earthwork and embankment filling. That is enough to form a 210 km long freight train!! The runway will be more than 2 m thick, comprising 12 layers of Filling, Concrete Treated Base, Asphalt & Adhesives. Over 625,000 tonnes of asphalt will be used during the construction of the runway, a load which can help build a 75 km long six lane expressway!!



Terminal 3



The centerpiece of the IGI Airport modernization will be the new integrated passenger terminal, Terminal 3. Spread across a footprint of 20 acres, the building will have more than 480,000 m² of floor space. The building will serve both domestic and international passengers through 168 common use check-in counters. Further, an advanced 5 level in-line baggage screening system will provide both efficiency and security.



Immigration would be a breeze for both arriving and departing passengers with over 90 desks dedicated to the purpose. Passengers can board aircraft through 75 aerobridges spread across 4 boarding piers, which can be interchanged between domestic and international operations. Even, the most modern airports in the world do not have such a high number of aerobridges. For example, Singapore's Changi Airport or Kuala Lumpur International Airport (KLIA) have only 68 aerobridges each. The high number of aerobridges will ensure that over 90% of passengers transiting through T3 will be served by aerobridges.





Construction work on the Passenger Terminal Building (PTB) and boarding piers is in full swing with the building scheduled for inauguration by March 2010, well in time for the Commonwealth Games being hosted by Delhi.



T3 will have a capacity to cater to 27 million passengers a year. Naturally, a building of its size involves engineering of mammoth proportions. The building will be 300 m long & 250 m wide with a 6 lane approach road from the city. In addition, there will be dedicated high speed Metro line connecting the airport to the city centre along with city check-in facility.



Over 550,000 m³ of concrete will go into the construction of T3 along with 100,000 tonnes of rebar (reinforcing steel which is nearly four times the amount that went into the construction of the famed Howrah Bridge in Calcutta.



Even more challenging is the fact that all this construction will be finished in less than four years, which will perhaps be a record on its own. Similar projects across the world have taken substantially more time. For example, KLIA took about four and a half years to build. Work T5 in Heathrow, London was started in 2002 and is scheduled to open for commercial operations only in 2008.



Design & Construction



A host of Indian and international experts are involved in the development of the Terminal and Runway. Mott McDonald and HoK of UK are the principal designers and architects of T3 while Parsons Brinckerhoff of USA is the Project Management Consultants. Indian engineering giant L&T are the Engineering, Procurement & Construction Contractors for the project. Airbiz of Australia is the airport planners, while Woodhead from Australia are designing the interiors.



Equipment used in construction



A host of hi-tech construction equipment has been deployed for the construction of the runway:

· 8 Vibratory Soil Compactors with 18 tonne capacity exclusively imported from Germany for this project. These are being used for embankments and stabilizing the base soil of the runway. These machines are equipped with the latest microprocessor technology for best results.

· 10 Electronic Sensor Pavers built by Vogele of Germany have been pressed into service for laying the surface of the runway. These machines can lay surface of 200 mm thickness at the rate of 60 m per hour.

· Two 240 m³ per hour batching plants, among the biggest in Asia, for producing ready-mix concrete have been set up at the site. The total facility can produce more than 825 m³ of ready-mix per hour and is based on German technology.

· For fabrication of rebar steel, a mammoth 'Steel Service Centre' has been set-up with a capacity of 8,000 tonne per month.



Quality Control



A specially set-up fully equipped Quality Control Laboratory has also been commissioned to ensure the best quality concrete, asphalt and other materials associated with the concrete.



Workforce & Training

At present, a workforce of over 8,000 is involved in the construction of the new site. Besides Indians, experts from countries like USA, UK, Australia, China, Singapore, Malaysia amongst others, are involved in the development. The team also involves nearly 7,000 construction workers who have been housed in a specially built colony at the site. To ensure quality of life for the workers, the colony is complete with its dining & sanitation facilities. The workers are also being trained in a special 'Skill Training Center' where they undergo various vocational and safety awareness programme ranging from 3 – 45 days in duration, depending on their nature of duties.



The progress of the construction work is a step towards the realization of a dream – the dream to build an airport that showcases India to the world. GMR Group is committed to building infrastructure projects that help in the country's progress to take its righteous place as one of the leading economies of the world and IGI Airport will be the jewel in its crown.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:46 am

I dont know if i have mentioned it earlier but credible sources [rumours] told me that 9W is looking for A380s and 748F/772LRF, expecting an order early next year.

Also the A380 seems to be getting popular amongst Indian carriers
Air India To Purchase 10 To 12 A380s (by Timo007 Oct 29 2007 in Civil Aviation)

Karan
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:02 am

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 91):
I dont know if i have mentioned it earlier but credible sources [rumours] told me that 9W is looking for A380s and 748F/772LRF, expecting an order early next year.

The 777F is likely to be ordered next year as part of a tie-up that Naresh Goyal is planning with Mukesh Ambani (his to-be neighbour on Altamount road) to set upa cargo carrier under the Jet brand.

The A380 or 748i has been mentioned, but no-one in 9W can give any confirmation.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:52 pm

Quoting Tonyban (Reply 87):
Since airlines don't make revenue when aircraft are on the ground, does anyone know why so many planes were sitting idle ? It was about 6:00 a.m.

The last part of your post is the key as mentioned by Mk777....a lot of flights to all over India, depart from DEL and BOM between 6.00am and 9.00am and most of these planes would have been gone a couple of hours later.... smile 
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:02 pm

So Airbus can soon expect an order for 10-12 A380's from Air India ..
http://www.hemscott.com/news/latest-news/item.do?newsId=52587579611546
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:13 pm

Quoting Cricket (Reply 90):
Work is progressing fast on IGI Airport's third runway; to be christened '11-29'. This runway, at 4430 m will be one of the longest runways in Asia and will feature CAT IIIB Instrument Landing System at both ends. This equipment will allow landings in visibility as low as 50 m. This 60 m wide, Code F runway will also cater to new generation large aircrafts such as the Airbus A380.

Work on the runway and associated taxiways is more than 50% complete and the runway will be commissioned in mid 2008. The commissioning of the new runway will increase IGI Airport's capacity to handle aircraft movements substantially, making flight delays and congestion a thing of the past.



Quoting Cricket (Reply 90):
Terminal 3
The centerpiece of the IGI Airport modernization will be the new integrated passenger terminal, Terminal 3. Spread across a footprint of 20 acres, the building will have more than 480,000 m² of floor space. The building will serve both domestic and international passengers through 168 common use check-in counters. Further, an advanced 5 level in-line baggage screening system will provide both efficiency and security.

Immigration would be a breeze for both arriving and departing passengers with over 90 desks dedicated to the purpose. Passengers can board aircraft through 75 aerobridges spread across 4 boarding piers, which can be interchanged between domestic and international operations. Even, the most modern airports in the world do not have such a high number of aerobridges. For example, Singapore's Changi Airport or Kuala Lumpur International Airport (KLIA) have only 68 aerobridges each. The high number of aerobridges will ensure that over 90% of passengers transiting through T3 will be served by aerobridges.

Construction work on the Passenger Terminal Building (PTB) and boarding piers is in full swing with the building scheduled for inauguration by March 2010, well in time for the Commonwealth Games being hosted by Delhi.

T3 will have a capacity to cater to 27 million passengers a year. Naturally, a building of its size involves engineering of mammoth proportions. The building will be 300 m long & 250 m wide with a 6 lane approach road from the city. In addition, there will be dedicated high speed Metro line connecting the airport to the city centre along with city check-in facility.

Cricket,
Thank you for posting the DIAL press release. I am very excited about the progress at Delhi Airport.

With CATIIIB landing system, integrated terminal, and the best geographic location for flights to NA, Europe, and Asia, Delhi is on its way to become an important hub. When completed, it will open up opportunity for Indian carriers to make Delhi a hub instead of looking for hubs in Europe.

Imagine non-stop flights from Delhi to tens of cities in NA, Europe, and Asia with decent connectivity from any Indian city. Delhi could become a stop on the Europe-Australia route.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:59 pm

Air Deccan seeks nod to fly abroad

Quote:
Kingfisher Airlines chairman Vijay Mallya on Tuesday said budget carrier Air Deccan has applied for permission to fly overseas from next year.
"Air Deccan has sought government approval to fly overseas from next year. The company is looking for a licence to start flights to Middle East, South East Asia and the US," he said on the sidelines of the Fortune Global Forum in New Delhi.

Now that IT has a 46% stake in DN - it will probably be easier for IT to use DN certs. to fly abroad from next year.... why doesn't IT acquire DN completely? Don't think monopoly would be any issue....
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:09 pm

Quoting PNQIAD (Reply 96):
Now that IT has a 46% stake in DN - it will probably be easier for IT to use DN certs. to fly abroad from next year.... why doesn't IT acquire DN completely? Don't think monopoly would be any issue....

Good question. How about adding 5% more and at least becoming a majority stakeholder. One never knows what objection will come its way regarding its application to fly abroad.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:28 pm

Can DN wetlease from IT and operate flights to US? Will that cause any issues? Only the flight numbers will be DN flight numbers, but service will be IT? That may also be the reason why DN livery resembles IT, so that when IT is able to operate flights on its own, brand recall will be easier?
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 62

Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:13 pm

Surprised that it's day 3 of JFK operations for 9W and no reports or pictures. Did drive in to JFK on Sunday and noted Jet Airways sign on the terminal 8 (American Airlines) directory. Signs point to a future Sky Team membership?

LAXDESI, suggest you wait till Nov. 1 to start # 63. Also in the future if we go over 100 posts towards the end of the month, let the string run out till the end of the month... So if form holds up we will have two threads per month, beginning of the month and at the middle of the month.
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