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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:47 pm

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 99):
However, it would be a shame given that the route has been operated for decades, and it would be yet another sign of Seattle losing its historic ties to Scandanavia.

Yeah, it will be a shame, but what to do when they loose money on that route???
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:49 pm

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 93):
If my memory serves me correctly, the sign was there well before the PDX/SEA competition for LH service. It's on the same sign board as the United/United Express signs at departure, which would suggest that it's there for codeshare purposes although I'm somewhat certain that its presence predates the founding of Star Alliance and aside from the Northwest/KLM sign, it's the only one that names an airline that doesn't fly to SEA with its own metal.

Iberia is also listed with AA.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:14 pm

Quoting N174UA (Reply 96):
Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 93):
possibly the long-standing SK CPH-SEA route which gets mixed assessments on this site). We'll see what happens

Makes me wonder if a decision by SK to cut CPH-SEA has already been made.

One would assume that this is going to spell the end of the flight. Why have 2 star carriers in SEA to Europe, especially when one, SK, is doing poorly.

Quoting N174UA (Reply 96):
If the FRA-SEA goes into effect, then it seems like they took a page from NW's playbook, i.e. having the same routes from two cities close together. To me, it's a regional monopoly that helps build brand loyalty. NW secures the AS/QX customer base, and LH locks up the *A folks in the PDX/SEA/YVR area. UA no doubt gets a big piece of the revenue sharing pie by putting their customers on LH metal. That way, UA could then reroute aircraft that would otherwise transport them to ORD, etc. And if one flight is full, then it's very easy to run them up or down to the other city, and even by bus if needed.

I don't believe that NW is the only carrier to have the same routes from 2 close cities. Corrext me if I am wrong, but you say LH will lock up the star alliance pax in the PDX/SEA/YVR area, but doesn't AC already do that with them having a large hub up in YVR? I am sorry, if I am understanding you corretly, area you saying that if say SEA-FRA is full, sending pax by bus down to PDX or up to YVR? If so, that would have to be one of the dumbest moves they could make. "Sorry folks, the flight is full, if you wish, we can send you on a bus 4 hours down to PDX to catch PDX-FRA." I would laugh if some one were to tell me that. That's an insult.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:35 pm

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 93):
it's the only one that names an airline that doesn't fly to SEA with its own metal.

Actually.. I'm 90% sure that there's a sign for Iberia (IB) as well...  Silly
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:55 pm

Quoting B752OS (Reply 102):
One would assume that this is going to spell the end of the flight. Why have 2 star carriers in SEA to Europe, especially when one, SK, is doing poorly.

And SK/LH serve entirely different markets. SK can serve Europe well but they are non-existent in the increasingly important India market. I think the alliance factor is being blown a bit out of proportion. No one started talking about the demise of SEA-AMS when AF announced CDG-SEA, and that's a much more direct competitor.

Quoting B752OS (Reply 102):
I don't believe that NW is the only carrier to have the same routes from 2 close cities. Corrext me if I am wrong, but you say LH will lock up the star alliance pax in the PDX/SEA/YVR area, but doesn't AC already do that with them having a large hub up in YVR? I am sorry, if I am understanding you corretly, area you saying that if say SEA-FRA is full, sending pax by bus down to PDX or up to YVR? If so, that would have to be one of the dumbest moves they could make. "Sorry folks, the flight is full, if you wish, we can send you on a bus 4 hours down to PDX to catch PDX-FRA." I would laugh if some one were to tell me that. That's an insult.

That's not what he was saying. What he was saying was that LH will have strong brand recognition in the Pacific Northwest, and that pax will have multiple flights to choose from if they want to remain loyal to LH. No one's talking about a bus.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:09 pm

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 104):
That's not what he was saying. What he was saying was that LH will have strong brand recognition in the Pacific Northwest, and that pax will have multiple flights to choose from if they want to remain loyal to LH. No one's talking about a bus.

Well if you read his post more closely, he mentions busing people from one station to another, in this case PDX, SEA, and YVR. I was just simply pointing out that AC, a memeber of Star Alliance, has a large hub in YVR that serves multiple destinations in Europe on a daily basis.

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 104):
And SK/LH serve entirely different markets. SK can serve Europe well but they are non-existent in the increasingly important India market. I think the alliance factor is being blown a bit out of proportion. No one started talking about the demise of SEA-AMS when AF announced CDG-SEA, and that's a much more direct competitor.

The fact that SK is not that large in India is all the more reason the flight should stop. As it has been mentioned, the flight does very poorly for SK, so why keep it running when yet another European carrier, one in the same alliance no less, is thinking about adding service. Why keep a route that is doing very poorly, and that doesn't have a very large network when compared to LH.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:12 pm

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 104):
And SK/LH serve entirely different markets. SK can serve Europe well but they are non-existent in the increasingly important India market. I think the alliance factor is being blown a bit out of proportion. No one started talking about the demise of SEA-AMS when AF announced CDG-SEA, and that's a much more direct competitor.

I agree it is being blown out of proportion and there isn't necessarily a link between them, but it is a reasonable possibility. SAS entire long-haul network struggles, and Seattle has been in the past few years the poorest performer in their small North American network.
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:18 pm

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 93):
If my memory serves me correctly, the sign was there well before the PDX/SEA competition for LH service. It's on the same sign board as the United/United Express signs at departure, which would suggest that it's there for codeshare purposes although I'm somewhat certain that its presence predates the founding of Star Alliance and aside from the Northwest/KLM sign, it's the only one that names an airline that doesn't fly to SEA with its own metal.

Same here in PHX, LH has a sign at the entrance to Terminal 2 with United/Ted/United Express..I should note the sign was still there when LH served PHX from Terminal 4.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:26 pm

Quoting B752OS (Reply 105):
I was just simply pointing out that AC, a memeber of Star Alliance, has a large hub in YVR that serves multiple destinations in Europe on a daily basis.

If you're referring to direct AC flights from YVR to Europe, they actually only serve one destination in Europe with their own aircraft -- LHR. They codeshare on LH-operated flights YVR-FRA, which isn't even daily during the winter (6/week, no flight on Wednesday). That's it for direct Star Alliance service from YVR to Europe.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:13 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 109):
If you're referring to direct AC flights from YVR to Europe, they actually only serve one destination in Europe with their own aircraft -- LHR. They codeshare on LH-operated flights YVR-FRA, which isn't even daily during the winter (6/week, no flight on Wednesday). That's it for direct Star Alliance service from YVR to Europe.

So, if I understand correctly, YYC will almost have as much European service as YVR once this new LH flight begins?
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:21 pm

Quoting Jamincan (Reply 110):
So, if I understand correctly, YYC will almost have as much European service as YVR once this new LH flight begins?

Except YVR has KL nonstops to AMS. No direct AMS service from YYC since KL pulled out in the mid-90s sometime.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:09 am

Quoting BCAInfoSys (Reply 103):

Actually.. I'm 90% sure that there's a sign for Iberia (IB) as well...



Quoting Sxf24 (Reply 101):
Iberia is also listed with AA.



Quoting BCAInfoSys (Reply 103):

Actually.. I'm 90% sure that there's a sign for Iberia (IB) as well...

Nope. Went through departures today, had a look and didn't see it (that's not to say it hasn't been there in the past). I think the only other airline listed with AA is Sun Country...The LH sign is still there. No picture though...
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:52 am

Just received an eMail from LH this morning, confirming FRA-SEA and FRA-YYC:

LH490/LH491 FRA-SEA VT 1-7 LH/333 F8/C48/M165 starting 30.March 2008,
LH494/LH495 FRA-YYC VT 1-7 LH/333 F8/C48/M165 starting 14.April 2008.
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:42 pm

Quoting Leskova (Reply 112):
Just received an eMail from LH this morning, confirming FRA-SEA and FRA-YYC:

May I ask how you arrange to get such letters?

Because you are a senator, a moderator, or what is it?
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:43 pm

Quoting Leskova (Reply 112):
LH490/LH491 FRA-SEA VT 1-7 LH/333 F8/C48/M165 starting 30.March 2008,
LH494/LH495 FRA-YYC VT 1-7 LH/333 F8/C48/M165 starting 14.April 2008.

this isn't loaded to Amadeus yet, but I believe you when you post this... VT 1-7 means daily or only Monday and Sunday operation???
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:00 pm

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 114):
Quoting Leskova (Reply 112):
LH490/LH491 FRA-SEA VT 1-7 LH/333 F8/C48/M165 starting 30.March 2008,
LH494/LH495 FRA-YYC VT 1-7 LH/333 F8/C48/M165 starting 14.April 2008.

this isn't loaded to Amadeus yet, but I believe you when you post this... VT 1-7 means daily or only Monday and Sunday operation???

Judging from a similar post in the thread about MUC-SIN which is to be 5/w I'd say that this means daily. Compare to:

Quote:
LH784/LH785/LH791 MUC-SIN VT2/3/4/5/7 LH/34P F8/C36/M197 starting 08.June 2008.

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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:20 pm

Quoting Leskova (Reply 112):
LH/333 F8/C48/M165

Thanks for the information! So what does all this mean? I'm assuming the 333 is the A330-300, what are the letters and numbers after that referring to?
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:32 pm

configuration of the aircraft.
8 First Class, 48 Business and 165 in Eco...
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:35 pm

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 117):
configuration of the aircraft.
8 First Class, 48 Business and 165 in Eco...

That's what I was thinking it meant, thanks for the confirmation!
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:02 pm

Quoting JoFMO (Reply 113):
May I ask how you arrange to get such letters?

Because you are a senator, a moderator, or what is it?

The company I work for gets LH fare & schedule information fairly quickly...  Wink

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 114):
this isn't loaded to Amadeus yet, but I believe you when you post this... VT 1-7 means daily or only Monday and Sunday operation???

They'll be loaded by 5 November - sorry, I only posted that bit on the MUC-SIN flight thread.

As a side-note, this one is also confirmed in the eMail:

LH466 DUS-MIA VT 1, 3-7 LH/343 F8C48M165
LH467 MIA- DUS VT 1, 3-7 LH/343 F8C48M165

... beginning 28 October 2008.
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:39 pm

Can someone explain the logic of putting the A343 on the DUS-MIA route and the A333 on the FRA-SEA route. This seems a bit strange, given the range issues the A333 on the SEA fights. They have the same capacity, no?
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:48 pm

Quoting Mason (Reply 120):
Can someone explain the logic of putting the A343 on the DUS-MIA route and the A333 on the FRA-SEA route. This seems a bit strange, given the range issues the A333 on the SEA fights. They have the same capacity, no?

Just a wild guess - they're stationing A340-300s at DUS, but no A330-300s... don't know why they're basing A340s instead of A330s there, but that's the way it is.
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:50 pm

Leskova, can you please share the schedule information? The first post says when LH leaves FRA. When does it arrive in SEA and when does it leave SEA and reach FRA?
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:54 pm

Quoting Blrsea (Reply 122):
Leskova, can you please share the schedule information? The first post says when LH leaves FRA. When does it arrive in SEA and when does it leave SEA and reach FRA?

As strange as it sounds - that information was not included in the eMails I got, at least as far as I remember. I left my notebook at the office since I'm taking a couple of days off next week and didn't want to carry it around with me all the time, so I cannot take a look to see if I just overlooked the information... sorry.

Anyhow, the information should be available by Monday, at least that's what was mentioned in the eMails.
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:31 am

So that's awesome, the 2nd city in Canada that LH will fly to will be Calgary. Will be a nice change option from flying the AC 333 to FRA... AND I can still get aeroplan points!
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:38 am

Nothing been loaded in the system yet about the new Seattle flight.......Now even an announcement on Lufthansa web page...............
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:24 am

Quoting Bakersdozen (Reply 124):
So that's awesome, the 2nd city in Canada that LH will fly to will be Calgary. Will be a nice change option from flying the AC 333 to FRA... AND I can still get aeroplan points!

You can already see LH in YYZ, YUL and YVR.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:39 am

Quoting LHPDX (Reply 125):
Nothing been loaded in the system yet about the new Seattle flight.......Now even an announcement on Lufthansa web page...............

The Port of Seattle is announcing a major new international service monday, any guesses?  Wink
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:57 am

Quoting JoFMO (Reply 126):
You can already see LH in YYZ, YUL and YVR.

Oh, I remember someone saying they only flew on their own metal to YYZ. I thought everything else was code shared.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:35 am

Quoting EVA777SEA (Reply 127):
The Port of Seattle is announcing a major new international service monday, any guesses?

Sounds like LH is coming to town! Good times!
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:03 pm

Quoting Bakersdozen (Reply 128):
Quoting JoFMO (Reply 126):
You can already see LH in YYZ, YUL and YVR.

Oh, I remember someone saying they only flew on their own metal to YYZ. I thought everything else was code shared.

That is definitely wrong!

The only Canadian codeshare destinations they don't fly themselves is YYC so far.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:16 pm

Quoting Bakersdozen (Reply 128):
Oh, I remember someone saying they only flew on their own metal to YYZ. I thought everything else was code shared.

I think it is simply that every other destination (except YYZ) has either AC to FRA and LH to MUC or the other way around, with the other airline codesharing the route. I believe that YYC is just the second airport in Canada (after YYZ) to see service to FRA by both airlines.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:53 pm

Having LH fly into Calgary would be great since at the moment I have to connect through YVR which is a pain when you live in Alberta
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:00 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 106):
I agree it is being blown out of proportion and there isn't necessarily a link between them, but it is a reasonable possibility. SAS entire long-haul network struggles, and Seattle has been in the past few years the poorest performer in their small North American network.

Well clearly it is a problem that has nothing to do with loads bringing revenue down. They had a 95%ish load factor in September. 14,018 pax/60 flights total (30 days, 1 flight each way)/245 (Capacity of A340) = .9536 x 100 = 95.36%
Perhaps they need to raise fares? Their yields must be very bad.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:33 pm

Oh those people in Seattle must be sooooooooooooo excited! Maybe now the constant complaints about "PDX cheating Seattle of what rightfully belong to them( Lufthansa)" will die off on here..............Honestly, both cities really should work together attracting more future flights as a region.............................
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:45 pm

Quoting FlyingSikh (Reply 132):
Having LH fly into Calgary would be great since at the moment I have to connect through YVR which is a pain when you live in Alberta

Why do you connect in YVR when there is already a YYC-FRA flight on which LH codeshares?
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:47 pm

SEA doesn't ALREADY have LH. Wow! Thats good then.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:05 pm

This is great news for Seattle!!!! I flew LH to India for a trip and but had to take a quick flight down to Portland for my connecton to PDX-FRA.

Not only is this route great for Seattle and Europe but India. SEA-FRA-BLR, SEA-FRA-HYD or SEA-FRA-MAA can be just as busy as the poplular SFO-FRA-BLR for IT workers going between the bay area and India. There is a huge demand more than people think for quick routes between Seattle and India's IT hubs and LH will do great.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:34 pm

AF reported recently that its new CDG-SEA service was seeing better loads than expected. SEA has been underserved to Europe, but that's changing quickly.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:44 pm

Quoting Iaddca (Reply 138):
AF reported recently that its new CDG-SEA service was seeing better loads than expected. SEA has been underserved to Europe, but that's changing quickly.

I went back and read the Tacoma News Tribune article/interview from just after that service was announced (http://dwb.thenewstribune.com/business/story/6390522p-5699867c.html) and noticed a detail that I'd previously overlooked--about 50% of Seattle-Europe passengers at that point were still connecting to Europe from U.S. hubs. While I'm sure there will always be pax connecting in this way, it seems there might be plenty of room for all the capacity that's been added to the Seattle-Europe non-stop market recently (I speak of course of BA's additional three weekly frequencies and this pending LH service). We'll see what happens.
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:09 pm

Quoting LHPDX (Reply 134):
Oh those people in Seattle must be sooooooooooooo excited! Maybe now the constant complaints about "PDX cheating Seattle of what rightfully belong to them( Lufthansa)" will die off on here..............Honestly, both cities really should work together attracting more future flights as a region.............................

I haven't seen too many posts like that. Dude, you have some serious anti-Seattle issues that you need to resolve. I think PDX is sitting pretty right now - a flight to Latin America, a flight to Asia, and soon to be two daily flights to Europe, all up from 0 international flights (other than YVR) just a few years ago. PDX is extremely well-served for a city of its size, many other cities are jealous.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:30 pm

Quoting EVA777SEA (Reply 133):

Well clearly it is a problem that has nothing to do with loads bringing revenue down. They had a 95%ish load factor in September. 14,018 pax/60 flights total (30 days, 1 flight each way)/245 (Capacity of A340) = .9536 x 100 = 95.36%
Perhaps they need to raise fares? Their yields must be very bad.

Yields on SAS' Seattle flight have tanked in the past few years. At the same time, it should be noted that all of SAS' long-haul routes, including Newark, are poor performers. However, the Seattle route has been doing a lot worse than others.
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:19 pm

Quoting LHPDX (Reply 134):
Maybe now the constant complaints about "PDX cheating Seattle of what rightfully belong to them( Lufthansa)" will die off on here.

Say again? I can't recall anyone ever saying that. PDX won the LH route over SEA a few years back fair and square. That's what spurred the Port of Seattle to start offering incentives to new international carriers.

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 140):
Dude, you have some serious anti-Seattle issues that you need to resolve.



Quoting RwSEA (Reply 140):
I think PDX is sitting pretty right now - a flight to Latin America, a flight to Asia, and soon to be two daily flights to Europe, all up from 0 international flights (other than YVR) just a few years ago. PDX is extremely well-served for a city of its size, many other cities are jealous.

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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:09 am

Well, the rumors in the local press are getting stronger for SEA-FRA, although they're being fueled by a.net  Silly

http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/stories/2007/11/05/story10.html
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:40 am

Now official... loaded on amadeus.. YYC & SEA-FRA
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:59 pm

LH 490
FRA: 10:05 AM
SEA: 11:20 AM

LH 491
SEA: 2:30 PM
FRA: 9:25 AM +1

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LH 494
FRA: 11:10 AM
YYC: 12:50 PM

LH 495
YYC: 2:45 PM
FRA: 7:55 AM +1
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:39 pm

According to Global News in Calgary there will be an official announcement today of new intl. airline service to Calgary.
We all know what airline that will be!
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:20 pm

Too bad it's not SEA-MUC. That would a provided a) a nice complement to LH's existing MUC-West Coast gateways (LAX and SFO), b) would not have been as predatory on LH's own existing FRA-PDX service and c) would not have been as predatory on SK's existing SEA-CPH service, which provides good connections onward throughout northern Europe.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:18 pm

Cool! There are lots of Indians working in software companies in the puget sound region. LH, with its connections to major cities in India will be a welcome addition to SEA. And there are a large number of parents of these Indians who come to SEA every year, especially in summer. Will it make it easier for them too have a one stop flight to SEA.

AF/BA/LH, wow!! Thats three flights to BLR, my home town from SEA. I am very happy  bigthumbsup   cloudnine 
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:21 pm

Quoting Dolphinflyer (Reply 147):
Too bad it's not SEA-MUC.

I've heard this mentioned often enough in Lufthansa/Seattle threads of the past to make me wonder: is there any precedent for Lufthansa entering a market from MUC rather than FRA? Launching a new station from your largest hub seems to make sense to me.
Picked a hell of a week to quit sniffing glue.

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