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LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:28 am

Hi all!!

LH will start flying in S08 to Calgary and Seattle.

SEA from March 30th daily A333 departing FRA 1005
YYC from April 18th daily A333 departing FRA 1215


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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:39 am

Any sources on that?
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:49 am

the most reliable you can imagine.......decision was taken yesterday at very high levels.

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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:15 am

Have LH recived new 330's or are they cutting down on any other routes using this type of aircraft?
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:20 am

Well, just make it be true! That would mean, we got rid of to frequently upcoming questions concerning LH, that would be: "LH -- why no PTVs" and "LH and Seattle"..... in quite a short timeframe.
Atleast "LH's replacement of A300" would be left.

On a related matter: FRA-SEA would be quite the limit for the A333 wouldn't it? Would habe expected them to go with the A343 on such a route. I mean, to Portland they are flying the A343, aren't they?! So they would be serving Vancouver, Portland and just about 200km in between both Seattle, not bad.

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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:08 pm

So still no PHX what is taking LH so long to relaunch?
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:09 pm

Quoting Robbie86 (Reply 3):
Have LH received new 330's or are they cutting down on any other routes using this type of aircraft?

LH will have for the summer '08 5 additional 333s and 3 more 346s. You can reduce 3 A343s which will be used for expansion ex DUS leaves 5 net. These services would probably require 2 a/c plus one for the on the other thread rumoured MUC-SIN, which would leave two more for other expansions/frequency increases, assuming everything else stays the same. Then there are the 300s which are/will partly be reconfigured and used on mediumhaul to Central Asia/Northern Africa.
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:11 pm

Quoting BA744PHX (Reply 5):
So still no PHX what is taking LH so long to relaunch?

I would guess that they don't have a 343 left for this service. Since they will be basing 3 A343 at DUS with the beginning of 2008 they will already be short of A343. They won't put a A346 or 744 on FRA-PHX and the A333 won't make it with a decent payload out of the hot PHX to FRA.

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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:15 pm

After years of flying to Vancouver Lufthansa finally crosses the border to Washington state.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:21 pm

Interesting that LH will be flying to three of the major airports in the Pacific Northwest. I guess that would make three new international carriers potentially serving SEA next year, which includes Hainan Airlines and Vladavia.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:31 pm

Quoting GlobeEx (Reply 4):
On a related matter: FRA-SEA would be quite the limit for the A333 wouldn't it? Would habe expected them to go with the A343 on such a route. I mean, to Portland they are flying the A343, aren't they?

Far from it. The 330 has quite a long range afaik. AF flies CDG-NRT which is 6048 miles. TAM flies GRU-LHR which is 5863 miles. FRA-SEA is only 5108 by comparison.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:35 pm

hahaha I would say another myth is down! Big grin
after "LH and PTV" and "LH and A300" and "LH and SEA" and "LH and YYC" there is no discussions about LH anymore... Big grin

BUTas far as I know LH's A333 have the RR Trent engine and their range is s.th. around 4600-4700nm. a straight route FRA-SEA over Greenland has a range of 5100nm, so a A333 is not able to fly this route. but I'm not sure maybe LH have the the longer range version.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:41 pm

Quoting Cyba (Reply 10):
Far from it. The 330 has quite a long range afaik. AF flies CDG-NRT which is 6048 miles. TAM flies GRU-LHR which is 5863 miles. FRA-SEA is only 5108 by comparison.

these are flights operated with A330-200 which has a higher range than the A330-300 (which LH operates only)
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:42 pm

I remember when I lived in Seattle back in the early 90's reading an article that had statistics on foreign-languages spoken in the Seattle area. German came out on top!

I wonder if this spells the end of SK's long history in SEA. I have been a faithfull user of that flight but now that PDX has two flights to Europe it won't be my preferred option any more.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:50 pm

Quoting Cyba (Reply 10):
Far from it. The 330 has quite a long range afaik. AF flies CDG-NRT which is 6048 miles. TAM flies GRU-LHR which is 5863 miles. FRA-SEA is only 5108 by comparison.

As mentioned, these are flown by A332 as far as I know.... so I don't see LH putting a A333 on FRA-SEA and personally I can't see, where they will get A343 from for this route, as I would guess that there are routes that are more imminent than FRA-SEA needing a A343. In the end, LH is already serving two destinations in the north west of the US i.e. South west of Canada.
Personally, I would guess that LH would use a spare A343 for serving PHX rather than SEA. However, if there would be any delay, one A343 for the FRA-PHX run would be quite a close call.

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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:01 pm

Quoting GlobeEx (Reply 14):
As mentioned, these are flown by A332 as far as I know.... so I don't see LH putting a A333 on FRA-SEA and personally I can't see, where they will get A343 from for this route, as I would guess that there are routes that are more imminent than FRA-SEA needing a A343. In the end, LH is already serving two destinations in the north west of the US i.e. South west of Canada.

these are some routes which are operated with A343 at the moment, but could be accessable with A333 due to the shorter range:

FRA-RUH (Wednesdays)
FRA-ATL
FRA-LOS-ACC
FRA-BAH-AUH (Fridays)
FRA-DXB (Tuesday, Thurday, Saturday)
FRA-JFK
FRA-PHL


what about the other announced route: YYC??? nay thoughts about that one?
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:15 pm

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 15):
FRA-ATL

I have heard from a pilot years ago (I do not recall exactly the reason) that the 333 could make that run but that contract restrictions with the pilots or LH internal safety restrictions do not allow LH to use the 333 flights of that length. I am not sure though since it has been a couple of years ago...
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:21 pm

is anyone else still hoping to see this in print before jumping for joy?
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:47 pm

Lufthansa finally crosses the border to Washington state after flying to Vancouver for years.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:49 pm

Quoting BA744PHX (Reply 5):
So still no PHX what is taking LH so long to relaunch?

US is most likely going to pick up PHX-FRA with the A333's coming online from the new order.
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:59 pm

I wonder why LH will use the A330-300 on the FRA-SEA route, unless they're higher MTOW versions that includes more fuel capacity. Given Lufthansa's 30-plane A340-300 fleet wouldn't using the A343 be a better choice?
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:07 pm

Quoting Itsnotfinals (Reply 19):
US is most likely going to pick up PHX-FRA with the A333's coming online from the new order.

Could the A333 actually do that trip with a good payload, looking at the hot weather in PHX?

Quoting RayChuang (Reply 20):
I wonder why LH will use the A330-300 on the FRA-SEA route, unless they're higher MTOW versions that includes more fuel capacity. Given Lufthansa's 30-plane A340-300 fleet wouldn't using the A343 be a better choice?

They do have a big A343 fleet. However, LH is a bit short of long haul equipment, not as bad as other airlines but still. And looking at the fact that they are stationed at FRA and MUC and three of them will go to DUS doesn't make the situation much better.

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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:19 pm

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 11):
a straight route FRA-SEA over Greenland has a range of 5100nm

No, it doesn't - it's 4439nm; the TPM is 5101, but that's not "nm" - that's statue
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:11 pm

This will be wonderful. One thing for sure is thast the flight to SEA will have ALOT of passengers in transit to India. LH has extensive services to India, and if the connections work, I see this as a big money maker. There aren't that many options for one stop flights between SEA and India. BA has the market now, but that will change. BA's fares are very high.

I believe that when NW operates A333s on SEA-AMS, there can be weight restrictions, which helped instigate A332s operating the route.
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:13 pm

Quoting PavlovsDog (Reply 13):
I wonder if this spells the end of SK's long history in SEA.

I've heard that CPH-SEA is SK's most profitable route so I doubt they will end it now  Smile
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:21 pm

bola... be careful about posting this kind of stuff on the internet, especially if you work @ LH  Smile

FRA-YYC is a good idea, given the boom in the Alberta area, hope that the timings connect well within the banks in YYC to feed BC and Albertan points. No worries about the A330-300, since AC does it daily on the same route. I assume that this route would be also geared to connect to the oil portfolio @ FRA.

I would have thought SEA would be a MUC endeavor, given FRA's limited capacity growth.

Excited to see what the MUC growth is for SU08
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:30 pm

Quoting GlobeEx (Reply 21):
Could the A333 actually do that trip with a good payload, looking at the hot weather in PHX?

PHX-FRA is on the edge for the A330 for sure in hot conditions.


I have a few HP pilot buddies that say that FRA is possible if not with the A330 then possibly with A340's US Might pick up as rumored.
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:31 pm

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 15):
what about the other announced route: YYC??? nay thoughts about that one?

Yeah, everyone seems totally focused on SEA here! This is AWESOME news for YYC! Great to see international expansion there! I really hope it does well for them!
Good goes around!
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:34 pm

Is there actually a source on this? Something about the phrase: "the most reliable source you can imagine" just doesn't do it for me especially from someone who seems to have no logical association with the airline in question.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:37 pm

Quoting Flyyul (Reply 25):
I would have thought SEA would be a MUC endeavor, given FRA's limited capacity growth.

I agree. On the surface it would appear, with YVR and PDX flights to FRA and the connections from SEA, that SEA-MUC would have made more sense.

I wonder if this reflects a skepticism of the PDX market. Will the NW service to AMS draw passengers from LH? If so, will PDX-FRA remain sustainable? If not, it'd make sense to already be established in the bigger market to the north before discontinuing the route.
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:37 pm

Quoting Bagoldex (Reply 28):
Something about the phrase: "the most reliable source you can imagine" just doesn't do it for me especially from someone who seems to have no logical association with the airline in question.

To me neither !!!

I'll wait for the offical LH press release.
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:38 pm

Quoting Bolu340 (Thread starter):
Bolu340 From Spain, joined Jan 2006, 37 posts, RR: 0
Posted Tue Oct 23 2007 12:28:45 your local time (5 hours 3 minutes 53 secs ago) and read 1552 times:

Hi all!!

LH will start flying in S08 to Calgary and Seattle.

SEA from March 30th daily A333 departing FRA 1005
YYC from April 18th daily A333 departing FRA 1215


Regards

Before the celebration begins.........is there any comfirmation or anything offical concerning this announcement?

Quoting Flyyul (Reply 25):
bola... be careful about posting this kind of stuff on the internet, especially if you work @ LH

Very true.

Quoting Robbie86 (Reply 24):
Quoting PavlovsDog (Reply 13):
I wonder if this spells the end of SK's long history in SEA.

I've heard that CPH-SEA is SK's most profitable route so I doubt they will end it now

And, SK has suggested that all of its longhaul operations, including the SEA route lose money, so who knows what to believe?
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:58 pm

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 23):
This will be wonderful. One thing for sure is thast the flight to SEA will have ALOT of passengers in transit to India. LH has extensive services to India, and if the connections work, I see this as a big money maker. There aren't that many options for one stop flights between SEA and India. BA has the market now, but that will change. BA's fares are very high.

I believe that when NW operates A333s on SEA-AMS, there can be weight restrictions, which helped instigate A332s operating the route.

NWA flies to India from Amsterdam.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:07 pm

Quoting Robbie86 (Reply 24):
I've heard that CPH-SEA is SK's most profitable route so I doubt they will end it now .  Smile

I have heard the same for many years, but the most recent SK financial filing said that SEA was one of the five worst long-haul markets for the company and that none of their long-haul operations were doing well, so perhaps SK wants out of long-haul and is partnering with LH to take over?

SEA is an international gateway for UA and has some connecting traffic in the area (though nothing like pre-9/11), and LH splits their trans-Atlantic revenues with UA. Currently UA flies SEA-ORD-FRA, SEA-IAD-FRA, FRA-IAD-SEA and FRA-SFO-SEA (all with plane changes, though the SEA-IAD-FRA and FRA-IAD-SEA flights are through flights on the same flight number).
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:09 pm

Quoting LH506 (Reply 16):
I have heard from a pilot years ago (I do not recall exactly the reason) that the 333 could make that run but that contract restrictions with the pilots or LH internal safety restrictions do not allow LH to use the 333 flights of that length. I am not sure though since it has been a couple of years ago...

Considering that they're starting MCO-FRA with A333s, I think their 'contract restriction' has been changed since then. And unless I'm losing it, I'd swear I saw an A333 at ATL a few weeks ago.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:19 pm

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 11):
hahaha I would say another myth is down! 
after "LH and PTV" and "LH and A300" and "LH and SEA" and "LH and YYC" there is no discussions about LH anymore... 

Don't forget "LH and Latin America?" respectivly "LH and GIG?" ^^
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:26 pm

Quoting GlobeEx (Reply 4):
FRA-SEA would be quite the limit for the A333 wouldn't it

It would

Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 9):
Interesting that LH will be flying to three of the major airports in the Pacific Northwest.

They are flying to THE three major airports in the PNW  Wink

Quoting Itsnotfinals (Reply 19):

US is most likely going to pick up PHX-FRA with the A333's coming online from the new order.

I think you mean A332s, though are those aircraft still on order or what?
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:28 pm

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 23):
One thing for sure is thast the flight to SEA will have ALOT of passengers in transit to India. LH has extensive services to India, and if the connections work, I see this as a big money maker.

Yup, thats true!! I was waiting for this for a long time. LH offers more connections to India than NW. LH flies to BOM/DEL/BLR/MAA/CCU in India and there are lots of Indians here working for the high tech companies. I wouldn't be surprised if atleast 20-40% of the flight is for connecting passengers to India.

BA fares are pretty high. For me, BA and AF are still the fastest options to BLR, but transit at CDG and LHR is a pain.And fares on both AF/BA are around $1600 + for SEA-BLR routes. I hope the competition reduces the price further.

Bolu340, can you please share the arrival and departure times for the SEA-FRA-SEA flight? I would like to see how the connections are onwards to BLR/rest of India.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:28 pm

Quoting Stitch (Reply 33):
have heard the same for many years, but the most recent SK financial filing said that SEA was one of the five worst long-haul markets for the company and that none of their long-haul operations were doing well, so perhaps SK wants out of long-haul and is partnering with LH to take over?

Last year was the first year in a long time that SAS Intercontinental made a profit, so I personally don't belive they will end long-hauls. They have actually stated that they want to start flights to HKG and SFO from CPH and NRT from ARN.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:28 pm

Quoting GlobeEx (Reply 4):
On a related matter: FRA-SEA would be quite the limit for the A333 wouldn't it?

I was also wondering. I think on this route they will have a payload restriction with the 333 (probably no cargo).

Quoting Cyba (Reply 10):
Far from it. The 330 has quite a long range afaik. AF flies CDG-NRT which is 6048 miles. TAM flies GRU-LHR which is 5863 miles. FRA-SEA is only 5108 by comparison.

Of course they do. But you are speaking about the 332 which have more range than the 333.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:31 pm

LH's new FRA-YYC-FRA flight timings are expected to be as follows :

Dep FRA 1215
Arr YYC 1400

Dep YYC 1530
Arr FRA 0915+1

Thus enabling in both directions easy connections to its entire African, Middle Eastern and Indian Subcontinent network via FRA.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:34 pm

Quoting Blrsea (Reply 37):
LH flies to BOM/DEL/BLR/MAA/CCU in India

Don't forget HYD  Smile
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:36 pm

Quoting Kohflot (Reply 29):
Quoting Flyyul (Reply 25):
I would have thought SEA would be a MUC endeavor, given FRA's limited capacity growth.

I agree. On the surface it would appear, with YVR and PDX flights to FRA and the connections from SEA, that SEA-MUC would have made more sense.

FRA has much better connections to India, middle East and North Africa than MUC. So it's no surprise if they start this service in FRA and not MUC. But it doubt to see an A333 on FRA-SEA.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:37 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 36):
I think you mean A332s, though are those aircraft still on order or what?

Indeed they are, just reconfirmed by US a couple weeks ago. 10 332s on order, according to their website. They have the flexibility to change them to 333s or 340s if need be.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:37 pm

Quoting Thenoflyzone (Reply 30):
I'll wait for the offical LH press release.

Ditto on that. I checked this morning on LH's press releases and saw zilch on SEA or YYC new flights.
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:38 pm

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 40):
Dep FRA 1215
Arr YYC 1400

Dep YYC 1530
Arr FRA 0915+1

That seems to be a pretty quick turnaround for the 330 here in YYC. Think they can pull it off? Or do they have to due to gate space on the B/C pier here?
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:55 pm

Quoting C172Akula (Reply 45):

That seems to be a pretty quick turnaround for the 330 here in YYC. Think they can pull it off?

It isn't THAT quick. They should be able to turn it in 90 minutes.
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:37 pm

I too thought LH would operate SEA out of MUC. It is likely that the A346 will do PDX duty, freeing up a few 343s for the SEA run (esp. in the summer?). If I were flying LH, I would rather connect in MUC than FRA, but glad to have another carrier to Europe.
 
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:45 pm

Quoting Blrsea (Reply 37):
BA fares are pretty high. For me, BA and AF are still the fastest options to BLR, but transit at CDG and LHR is a pain.And fares on both AF/BA are around $1600 + for SEA-BLR routes. I hope the competition reduces the price further.

I've done SEA-LHR-BLR and thought the connection was rather painless. You stay within terminal 4, so it isn't that bad. You just have to reclear security and then you are set.

Quoting Mason (Reply 47):
I too thought LH would operate SEA out of MUC. It is likely that the A346 will do PDX duty, freeing up a few 343s for the SEA run (esp. in the summer?). If I were flying LH, I would rather connect in MUC than FRA, but glad to have another carrier to Europe.

I'll be laughing at the logic giving PDX the larger plane over SEA. There is some reason in it, but it still makes me laugh.
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RE: LH To Calgary And Seattle

Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:52 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 36):
I think you mean A332s, though are those aircraft still on order or what?

Yes, A330-200's my bad. yes the order is:

18 A350-800
* 4 A350-900
* 10 A330-200 (the press release specifically says these are newly ordered)
* 10 A319
* 40 A320
* 10 A321

92 aircraft in total.

The A340's wold be coming from the used market presumably (not the AC -500's as we all know, they would be -300's)


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Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos