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The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:31 pm

I will try to follow in "wings" big fotsteps and do an official 787 first flight countdown. The time limit that Boeing has set is 15 dec, and I think that a flight prior to this is very unlikely, based on the last delays and problems.. so lets use this timeline for the countdown.

I will kindly ask you to post comments, pictures and rumours up until first flight.

Good luck,

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RE: The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:39 pm

I'm curious to know what the status of N787BA is.. Is the plane still "in pieces" or has it been re-assembled yet?
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RE: The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:40 pm

Quoting Andhen (Thread starter):
Boeing has set is 15 dec

from KPAE or KBFI?
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RE: The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:42 pm

Uh guys, You do know that first flight for the 787 is not until around the end of March next year, right?
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RE: The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:56 pm

Quoting Ba777-236 (Reply 1):
Is the plane still "in pieces" or has it been re-assembled yet?

Looking good, all control surfaces are back on

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 2):
from KPAE or KBFI?

Would be hard to have a first flight from BFI
 
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RE: The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:02 pm

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 4):
Would be hard to have a first flight from BFI

Teleportation, maybe?
 
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RE: The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:33 pm

There was a fire alarm in the 40-26 on Wednesday and 600 people were evacuated.
600 x 1 hour = 600 hours behind schedule.
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RE: The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:37 pm

huh. Usually it is the spice from "Taco Salad Thursday" that sets off the fire alarm...
 
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RE: The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:44 pm

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 2):
from KPAE or KBFI?

Defintely PAE. The aircraft may later be based in BFI for flighttesting after first flight though.
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RE: The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:46 pm

University Mechanical was soldering and forgot to bypass the alarm when the solder smoke started
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RE: The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:51 pm

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 2):
from KPAE or KBFI?

So there was another reason why they took it apart!
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RE: The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:11 pm

Quoting Andhen (Thread starter):
I will try to follow in "wings" big fotsteps and do an official 787 first flight countdown. The time limit that Boeing has set is 15 dec

You haven't been paying attention to the news. Boeing press release dated October 10:
http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2007/q4/071010d_nr.html

First 2 paragraphs:

CHICAGO, Oct. 10, 2007 -- The Boeing Company [NYSE:BA] today announced a six-month delay in its planned initial deliveries of the 787 Dreamliner due to continued challenges completing assembly of the first airplanes.

Deliveries of the strong-selling Dreamliner are now slated to begin in late November or December 2008, versus an original target of May 2008. First flight is now anticipated around the end of first quarter 2008.
 
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RE: The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:13 pm

Quoting Mattcawby (Reply 6):
600 x 1 hour = 600 hours behind schedule.

Not exactly. I see what you are saying, but let's use the context most everybody abides by.

Your reasoning makes it seem like the program would be 15 weeks behind schedule (if going by 5 work days per week, which equals 600 hours), but that is not the case. The fire alram set back the program by one (1) hour because the fire alarm interuption was...well, one hour.
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RE: The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:23 pm

I was in the Boeing Everett Assembly facility 2 weekends ago and looks like the first B787 is still being assembled.. I saw 2 B787's in the assembly line, the one that was rolled out is still in the works with its nose detached, and the 2nd B787 in the assembly line, I think I saw only half of its fuselage and it's covered in green vinyl..

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RE: The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:54 am

Quoting Mattcawby (Reply 6):
600 x 1 hour = 600 hours behind schedule.

That would be 600 "man hours", as opposed to 600 "temporal hours".  Smile
 
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RE: The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:59 am

150 days until first flight...  Wink
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RE: The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:30 am

I think "Mattcawby" was making a joke.
 
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RE: The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:52 am

i want to see this thing fly more than anyone here, but its way to early to have a countdown thread, especially since there is no definitive date set yet. And its months away still.
 
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RE: The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:17 am

I am interested to see if Boeing can pull off 2007 "787 first flight".
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RE: The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:21 am

Quoting Seabiscuit (Reply 18):
I am interested to see if Boeing can pull off 2007 "787 first flight".

The odds of that are zero since they said it won't be until the back side of the first quarter of 2008.

Now, can they make power-on in 2007? That'll be interesting to see.

And will they begin some ground testing in 2007? There's an outside chance of that, I suppose.
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RE: The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:13 am

Quoting Seabiscuit (Reply 18):
I am interested to see if Boeing can pull off 2007 "787 first flight".

... if they load all the bits into an An.225, then maybe, just maybe...  crazy 

I am inclined to believe that if Boeing say that the first flight will be late 1st quarter 2008, then it will be, er, late 1st quarter 2008, but of course they might be trying to mislead everyone....!

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RE: The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:29 am

Quoting Mattcawby (Reply 6):
There was a fire alarm in the 40-26 on Wednesday and 600 people were evacuated.
600 x 1 hour = 600 hours behind schedule.

It seems like each factory gets evacuated every year or so because of fire alarms. They aren't that uncommon when you are talking about a factory setting as large as Boeing's final assembly buildings.

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 8):
Defintely PAE. The aircraft may later be based in BFI for flighttesting after first flight though.

Flight testing will be based at BFI, but initial flight will be PAE-PAE. Boeing's flight test organization is headquartered at Boeing Field. All commercial test flights go out of there other than the widebody test flights for each plane (usually 4-6).

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RE: The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:53 pm

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 7):
huh. Usually it is the spice from "Taco Salad Thursday" that sets off the fire alarm...

Somebody's obviously never had the Taco Salad.
 
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RE: The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:55 pm

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 21):
It seems like each factory gets evacuated every year or so because of fire alarms.

Maybe it was a scheduled practice drill?

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 16):
I think "Mattcawby" was making a joke.

Wouldn't surprise me. Though I think I have a dry sense-of-humor, I still sometimes can't pick it up in others...online that is...stupid smilies.
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RE: The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:27 pm

Quoting Works4boeing (Reply 22):
Somebody's obviously never had the Taco Salad.

I once heard that everyone at Boeing has lunch at the same time?



Is the first flight still going to use N787BA? My guess is April 1, 2008.
 
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RE: The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:34 pm

Quoting CoolGuy (Reply 24):
I once heard that everyone at Boeing has lunch at the same time?

I wasn't on the factory floor, but I can assure you my team took lunch in shifts.
 
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RE: The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:49 pm

Quoting Works4boeing (Reply 22):
Somebody's obviously never had the Taco Salad.

Or heard of sacrasm  Yeah sure
 
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RE: The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:11 pm

I hope I'm not veering too far off topic, but is there a specific route the first flight(s) will take that takes it away from heavily populated areas?
 
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RE: The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:04 pm

149 days until first flight.

Approximately.  bored 

Quoting BWphoto (Reply 27):
I hope I'm not veering too far off topic, but is there a specific route the first flight(s) will take that takes it away from heavily populated areas?

Actually, they just take off, buzz CaptainX's house at about 25ft off the ground, then land.  Smile
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RE: The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:02 pm

This thread will long be archived before the first flight of the 787 takes off.
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RE: The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:09 pm

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 29):
This thread will long be archived before the first flight of the 787 takes off.

Ha, ha, ha.....!  rotfl 

We'll just have to pass the next 148 days admiring the A.380 as it becomes a familiar sight at SYD, SIN and no doubt a few other places with SQ...!  Smile

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RE: The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:17 pm

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 21):
It seems like each factory gets evacuated every year or so because of fire alarms. They aren't that uncommon when you are talking about a factory setting as large as Boeing's final assembly buildings.

Don't they also have regular fire drills, like once every 6 months or so? I'm sure they do in order to comply with building safety regulations.

Quoting BWphoto (Reply 27):
I hope I'm not veering too far off topic, but is there a specific route the first flight(s) will take that takes it away from heavily populated areas?

I believe in the case of the A380, the aircraft was routed out of TLS in a way so it would avoid as much residential area as possible, not to mention any possible obstacle issues that may arise from its proximity to the Pyrenees. PAE has the advantage of having a sea nearby and little, if any, obstacles, so whatever hazards there could be to the civilian population, as a result of flying a totally experimental aircraft on its first flight, can be reduced to a minimum this way.
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RE: The Official "787 First Flight" Countdown

Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:50 pm

Quoting BWphoto (Reply 27):
I hope I'm not veering too far off topic, but is there a specific route the first flight(s) will take that takes it away from heavily populated areas?

Most Boeing test flights depart PAE and head out over Puget Sound (which is a few miles to the west of the field). Once everything is okay, then they head to Southeastern Washington State for either a touch-and-go or a quick turn. I expect the 787 will spend her first few flights mostly over the Sound and then follow a similar track as the other planes.

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