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Skybus Not So Original Afterall

Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:13 am

Good Day, everyone!

I was browsing photos of the world's greatest and my hometown airport (Chicago Midway, of course) when I stumbled upon this photo and was rather surprised.

I wonder if this Skybus offered $10 airfare?  Smile

Has anyone ever heard of this original, or better yet flown on them?


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RE: Skybus Not So Original Afterall

Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:40 pm

Jogging my memory a bit (And a search of the archives over @ the AJC), but this same airline tried to start service out of FTY back in 1985. They were a charter outfit based out of Denver at the time and were planning on moving their HQ and their hub to FTY. The NIMBYs around FTY protested this planning and their proposal was denied by the Fulton County Commission. They instead moved their HQ and hub to PIE. In 1993, they bought out Key Air, who had a hub @ SAV. I can't find anything on either airline after 1993, so they probably didn't last too long after 1993.
 
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RE: Skybus Not So Original Afterall

Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:37 pm

There were actually two different Skybuses befere the current carrier came into existence.

Skybus Mk I is the Skybus you see in the photo. According to the book "Airlines Remembered" by B I Hengi, their plan was to start service out of FTY, but the NIMBYs killed the plans. So they bought the operating certificate of defunct Frontier Horizon Airlines in 1985 (a Frontier Mk I subsidiary that didn't last) and moved their HQ to DEN (the old Stapleton). As mentioned, they were a charter carrier, flying B737s, DC-9s, and B727s. They ceased operations in November 1986.

There was also a Skybus Mk II, started in September 1992. Tom M. Norwood's "Deregulation Knockouts: Round Two" said that this Skybus was initially a public charter based out of FLL, flying FLL-EWR. Other cities such as MDW, MCI, and LAX were later added. Most of the flights were operated by Private Jet or Express One. The plan was to go scheduled, and they tried to buy the operating certificates of Braniff Mk III and Key Airways to no avail... they even hired 85 pilots who had to spend $10,000 for training (no classes were ever held). Charters ended in late June 1993.

So, the current CMH-based Skybus is actually Skybus Mk III. Let's hope that the third time's the charm...
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RE: Skybus Not So Original Afterall

Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:07 pm

thank you for the detailed information!
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RE: Skybus Not So Original Afterall

Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:04 pm

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RE: Skybus Not So Original Afterall

Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:08 pm

link to the route map:

http://www.departedflights.com/FW011586.html

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RE: Skybus Not So Original Afterall

Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:11 pm

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 2):
There was also a Skybus Mk II, started in September 1992. Tom M. Norwood's "Deregulation Knockouts: Round Two" said that this Skybus was initially a public charter based out of FLL, flying FLL-EWR. Other cities such as MDW, MCI, and LAX were later added. Most of the flights were operated by Private Jet or Express One. The plan was to go scheduled, and they tried to buy the operating certificates of Braniff Mk III and Key Airways to no avail... they even hired 85 pilots who had to spend $10,000 for training (no classes were ever held). Charters ended in late June 1993.

I flew this version from EWR-FLL with a stopover in Sanford-Orlando, at the time I'd never heard of that airport and it was a very strange stop to me. We were on a Private Jet aircraft, I believe a 727. I have a "Skybus" napkin somewhere, maybe I can find it and scan in it.
 
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RE: Skybus Not So Original Afterall

Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:44 am

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 2):
There was also a Skybus Mk II, started in September 1992. Tom M. Norwood's "Deregulation Knockouts: Round Two" said that this Skybus was initially a public charter based out of FLL, flying FLL-EWR. Other cities such as MDW, MCI, and LAX were later added. Most of the flights were operated by Private Jet or Express One. The plan was to go scheduled, and they tried to buy the operating certificates of Braniff Mk III and Key Airways to no avail... they even hired 85 pilots who had to spend $10,000 for training (no classes were ever held). Charters ended in late June 1993.

Interesting...a friend of mine just sent me a timetable from this version of Skybus.

It can be seen at:

www.departedflights.com/FW050193intro.html

Some similarities with the current Skybus.....

Boston/Hartford was served via Worcester.
Orlando was served via Sanford.
Tampa was served via Saint Pete.
Los Angeles was served via Long Beach.

Looks like everything was sold....

coffee, tea, juice and soft drinks were all 1.00

snacks were sold for between $2 and $5.
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RE: Skybus Not So Original Afterall

Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:39 am

Quoting N702ML (Reply 7):
Some similarities with the current Skybus.....

Boston/Hartford was served via Worcester.

The Current Skybus serves Chicopee, MA
 
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RE: Skybus Not So Original Afterall

Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:00 am

Quoting Spinkid (Reply 8):
The Current Skybus serves Chicopee, MA

I just meant that major cities were advertised and smaller cities were served.
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RE: Skybus Not So Original Afterall

Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:04 am

I like the Mexican Carrier Viva Aerobus another good bus name  Smile

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RE: Skybus Not So Original Afterall

Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:21 am

Quoting Itsnotfinals (Reply 10):
I like the Mexican Carrier Viva Aerobus , another airline that is using Airbus A319s

Umm the link says they fly 737-300s(their site says that as well). Are you thinking of Volaris? they fly A319s only.
 
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RE: Skybus Not So Original Afterall

Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:34 am

Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 11):
Are you thinking of Volaris?

thanks for the correction.  Smile



It's nice to have a fun skybus thread for once.
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RE: Skybus Not So Original Afterall

Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:44 am

Quoting Itsnotfinals (Reply 12):

It's nice to have a fun skybus thread for once.

That's quite true..
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RE: Skybus Not So Original Afterall

Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:22 am

Don't forget this one:
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Or this one

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