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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:03 pm

Wow. I didn't mean to take the cork out of this bottle!

As far as I am concerned, I view airliners like a mother views her kids. They are all equally loved (though some are prettier and better than others).

Besides, when it comes to looks, no one can touch the VC10, so let's end the beauty pageant.  Wink
 
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:07 pm

Quoting Boac747 (Reply 50):
no one can touch the VC10

Or the 727.  yummy 
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:14 pm

Keesje,
Wow! beautiful photographs! 2 big beauties!
I must say, while the 747 looks nice and graceful, the A380 looks mean and to the point (the wingspan ie incredible!)
Cheers to both aircraft! Past and future!
 
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:53 pm

Quoting BrightCedars (Reply 3):

We need to get that A380-900 out there to realize the sheer size of that design.

Have you seen the 380 in person? The thing is massive. SO imposing and gargantuan... it seems to suck all the air out of the surrounding area and create this silence around it.... thats how it felt when I saw it sitting on the tarmac at IAD at night. The -900 will only be even more crazy to look at. The A380 is shorter and taller than the 744, so it looks more...compressed and heavier than the 744.....its simply huge.

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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:00 am

Thanks AA777. Very nice! How can anyone claiming to love commercial avaiation not love that! Regardless of A vs. B.
 
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:02 am

I was lucky to be up close and personal with the 380 when it visited Heathrow for the first time and wasn't overly impressed by the size. It is higher than a 747 and the tale is naturally higher as well. The wings are huge. But as a whole it is not quite the flying ship it is made out to be.

Just my two pence: It is a real ugly plane!
 
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:34 am

Quoting TJCAB (Reply 12):
I guess not as pretty,



Quoting Dambuster (Reply 13):
That plane has no class.



Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 14):
The A380 is a levathon, its cockpit is ugly(outside) and has no grace



Quoting Dambuster (Reply 17):
I don't know how one can say the A380 is beautiful



Quoting 747LUVR (Reply 19):
Sorry, but IMO, the 380 doesnt even come clsoe to grace and beauty of a 747.



Quoting Dambuster (Reply 20):
Even my little cousin who is 10 thinks it's ugly...



Quoting Dambuster (Reply 28):
The A380 is universally ugly. 'nuff said.



Quoting Dambuster (Reply 31):
More people think it's ugly... I don't even need to prove it, look at this topic



Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 38):
IMO if it wasn't for that very ugly nose, the 380 would be a little easier on the eyes.



Quoting Dambuster (Reply 39):
I said the A380 is ugly and most people agree with me,



Quoting Getdonnie (Reply 43):
Simply put Boeing makes birds, Airbus makes buses that fly.



Quoting Planesavvy (Reply 55):
It is a real ugly plane!

yes, and nobody gives a hoot & rushes to every airport it visits  biggrin 

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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:45 am

Quoting StealthZ (Reply 2):

Great pic, thanks!  bigthumbsup 

I'd hate to stir the pot a bit more, but I'm worried by people who are so obsessed by the looks of airplanes, it seems bordering on fetishism. We all know aesthetics play no role at all in modern aircraft hull design. The only thing that matters is aerodynamics, aerodynamics, and aerodynamics. I hope no-one seriously believes the designers of the 747 were Bauhaus graduates bent on producing the most beautiful airframe possible for the handful of geeks clinging to airport fences who can tell planes apart.  duck  A beautiful aircraft exterior is serendipity and nothing else.

That said, apart from its staggering size (thanks again StealthZ), I actually do find the A380 design very elegant. While the 747 looks indeed much more "graceful" due to its front section, the A380 wing is stunning (on which, oddly enough, we almost all seem to agree), and the overall impression is of extreme toughness, power and stability, all of which I imagine the average passenger would like to feel in an airplane. Nothing on the A380 looks flimsy and inadequate. I like that. I also like the fact that the A380 doesn't look like anything else in the sky. It also may have done more than any other aircraft in history to get laymen interested in aviation - even my grandmother, who has never been on a plane, knows what the A380 is, and has asked me questions about it after seeing it on TV.

Long live the A380 - and its more sexy but hairdryer-powered relative, the 747.  duck 
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:56 am

Quoting DIA (Reply 51):
no one can touch the VC10

Or the 727. yummy

Bingo, except, you forgot the DC-10 & DC-8!! (cargo version, the pax ones look spaced out w/ so few windows)
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:20 am

Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 38):
IMO if it wasn't for that very ugly nose, the 380 would be a little easier on the eyes.

Concur. When you look at the cockpit and the nose of the airplane, it makes you wonder whether after spending hundreds of thousands of hours designing the rest of the aircraft, the designers spent 15 minutes on the nose and cockpit windows.

And it's not like Airbus can't design a beautiful aircraft, they can - witness the A330.

Even when the -900 is launched, which will greatly improve the overall looks, it's still going to have that godawful nose.
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:25 am

The A380 is an awful, ugly jet, but it's still impressive! And from the inside, I guess who cares how it looks? The AN-225 is still, IMO, far more impressive to see fly, however, and the 747 is one graceful bird.
 
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:31 am

The A380 is impressive due to its size. The 747 is impressive due to its size AND its looks.

The 380 is one of the ugliest flying machines I have ever seen. I can't wait to fly on one at some point, but I'll always consider it to be FAR uglier than pretty much any commercial wide body flying today.
 
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:46 am

I don't mind the A380 at all except for the position of the cockpit. If it was higher on the front of the fuselage there wouldn'e be the beluga-like-hump. All I know is when the first one lands at YYZ whenever I will be there. You can see on the model photo the difference in wing span which is what limits the airports that can accept it. The tail is huge!
 
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:17 am

Quoting NEMA (Reply 27):
I Agree on here....Well it wouldn't be far amiss to rename this site Boeing.net would it.?

Depends on the day.

Quoting Keesje (Reply 56):

yes, and nobody gives a hoot & rushes to every airport it visits biggrin

Like they did recently - people rushed to see the A380 and started taking pictures of a 747 by "mistake".

Doh!
 
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:34 am

I cant wait to see the A380 when it comes through MCO. Its an amazing aircraft. imo, itl never match the grace and beauty of the 747 but i still say it's an awesome aircraft.
 
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:57 am

Quoting StealthZ (Reply 2):
I took the 2 components of this pic at SYD the day SQ380 departed on the return leg of it's charity flights.

Great work  Smile Too bad this topic got re-routed... How close to each other are potisions from which the photos of each bird were taken? Looks pretty damn close.

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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:02 am

It would be really interesting to compare the two cockpits too.
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:22 am

Quoting TJCAB (Reply 12):
and the 380, I guess, is the king. I guess not as pretty, but neither are men!

That's the best justification for calling it the king I've read. It definately looks more "muscular" and "buff" too, compared to the 744, another trait of men vs. women.

Though kings are just generally fat, at least the older ones...  Wink

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New York's Metropolitan Transportation Authority plans a rail line on an unused right of way of the Long Island Rail Road between J.F.K. and Penn Station to whisk passengers to midtown Manhattan in 20 minutes. But the first trains probably will not be ready until 1974.

Maybe 2074?

Quoting JetJeanes (Reply 30):
look at the two size between those two.. I dont think the size difference is as great of a differnce with the 380..

That's a key factor here. The A380 is big. It's huge, but it's not that much bigger than the 744 other than a crazy large vert stab. Inside, the Y cabin feels like an A340 or a 747 depending on the level (though it has 777 width seats, which is nice). But it's still broken up into manageable cabins, and the 400 Y pax on board most A380 layouts are not going to have a remarkably different experience from the 777, A340 or even the 744 on a good airline that has a modern interior.

But back in the day, there was a very big difference between flying Y in a 747 and in a 707 or DC8. (and of course, many airlines had 9Y seating on the 747 at first...) A huge difference. And the plane was so much larger, too.

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 42):
The 747 "Classics" didn't sell that well either.

Huh. 724 delivered frames for the classics, 694 ordered frames for the -400 family.

That's good anyway you cut it, and the A380 program would be considered a success if it were to achieve 700 frames...

Quoting AA777 (Reply 53):
Have you seen the 380 in person? The thing is massive.

Didn't seem much bigger than the UA 747 that arrived just before, other than the massive engines and the wider wings.

The 748 will have larger engines and wider wingspan...
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:17 am

Quoting Iwok (Reply 65):
How close to each other are potisions from which the photos of each bird were taken? Looks pretty damn close.

The photos were taken from the same position approximately 2 minutes apart.

The only real difference was the zoom used, focal length differed by approx 21mm. Resizing image to closely match tower and fence below engines makes it a pretty close comparison.

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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:28 am

The A380 might not be the best looking aircraft out there but it's wingspan in just amazing. If that doesn't impress you, then you're just being plain biased. I personally thought it was fugly until I saw it's wingspan a few weeks ago and it blew me away. It still looks like an A319 on steroids body-wise but damn, what a freakin' wingspan.

The 747 is my favorite all time aircraft but I gotta say, the engines on it compared to the Whalejet look like hairdryers.
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:29 am

Btw it seems the wings on the 6-engined An-225 aren't much bigger than the A380's! Impressive indeed, and in some angles the plane does look cool. Vive Le A380!!

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 61):
The 380 is one of the ugliest flying machines I have ever seen

The ugliest flying machine I've ever seen is the 318
 
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:34 am

Quoting Atnight (Reply 46):
This thread has become so twisted by those who hate the looks of the A380.... People think that by repeating how in their view the airplane looks ugly, those who find it attractive will somehow be "converted".... please, enough has been said by some of you who somehow insist in making the same old comments of 2+ years when it comes to the looks... If it hurts you folks that there is a new queen of the sky, don't ruin every thread about the A380 with your cheap propaganda.... The A380 is bringing back the joy of flying to the common traveller and to the majority of the world OUTSIDE a.net, people will like the plane, INSIDE and OUT! So your comments of "universally ugly", "airbus making buses fly", or other ones of that sort should go out the window! Is time you folks MOVE on...

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Quoting Toast (Reply 57):
I'd hate to stir the pot a bit more, but I'm worried by people who are so obsessed by the looks of airplanes, it seems bordering on fetishism. We all know aesthetics play no role at all in modern aircraft hull design. The only thing that matters is aerodynamics, aerodynamics, and aerodynamics. I hope no-one seriously believes the designers of the 747 were Bauhaus graduates bent on producing the most beautiful airframe possible for the handful of geeks clinging to airport fences who can tell planes apart. A beautiful aircraft exterior is serendipity and nothing else.



Quoting Toast (Reply 57):
I actually do find the A380 design very elegant. While the 747 looks indeed much more "graceful" due to its front section, the A380 wing is stunning (on which, oddly enough, we almost all seem to agree), and the overall impression is of extreme toughness, power and stability, all of which I imagine the average passenger would like to feel in an airplane. Nothing on the A380 looks flimsy and inadequate. I like that. I also like the fact that the A380 doesn't look like anything else in the sky. It also may have done more than any other aircraft in history to get laymen interested in aviation - even my grandmother, who has never been on a plane, knows what the A380 is, and has asked me questions about it after seeing it on TV.

Seems like flip flopping is going on here.. So if only geeks find planes attractive (just like most people also find cars attractive) why do you go into such a long detail about how it looks like?

Not that anyone cares but the A380 has grown on me. I just try to not look at the nose  Wink

Quoting Toast (Reply 57):
Long live the A380 - and its more sexy but hairdryer-powered relative, the 747.

sexy?? oops! you're a geek too  bigthumbsup 
 
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:37 am

Quoting Toast (Reply 57):
I'd hate to stir the pot a bit more, but I'm worried by people who are so obsessed by the looks of airplanes, it seems bordering on fetishism.

err.... bordering? I still get a hard on every time I see nice planes.  cloudnine 
must admit every time I see a 747. And thats got nothing to do with B or A.

with the 380, well, hum. but then, I havent seen it in real life. And looking at photos of myself, I am F-UGLY as well, despite being a beau in real life.  cheerful 


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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:48 am

I recommend to look at the A380 from diffrent angles. Some angles and distances are very unfavorable others aren't.

Specially this angle is not good, rather terrible.

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But from this angle, one will have to agree it looks at least adorable or impressive, some might find it gracious.

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It may looks better with gear down.


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Finally for all those fans of big wingspan with big engines Big grin :

http://www.asiatraveltips.com/newspics/0611/AirbusA380inHK2.jpg

Anyway i have to agree with most that the 747 is undoubtly much more beatiful, elegant.
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:47 am

Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 14):
The A380 is a levathon, its cockpit is ugly(outside) and has no grace. What ever 38 year old draw back the 744 has it is a graceful bird with its cockpit in the penthouse and first class in the nose. If an elephant could fly it would be an A380.

Just true. Might be an engineering marvel but from an asthetic point of view it is just ugly... to say the least
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:55 am



Quoting Boac747 (Thread starter):
I hope I am not wrong on this, but, it seems amazing to me that we have not yet seen a real, decent photo (side-by-side) comparison between the A380 and 744. Especially given that the A380 is now 'out there.'

I for one, would love to see it.

Sorry for digging up a stale thread, but this recent photo by Sam Chui brings the point home rather dramatically. He must have read this thread Big grin


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Consider that the 747-400 in this photo is in the foreground  eyepopping 
 
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:24 am



Quoting WingedMigrator (Reply 75):
Consider that the 747-400 in this photo is in the foreground

And also at a different angle then the A380. As proved three posts earlier, the angle can make the different. Not that I'm saying this photo doesn't show anything, but just a note to keep this in mind. Nonetheless, it's a great photograph! Thanks for sharing.
 
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:34 am

thats what I was waiting for!! Thanks Sam!

Quoting WingedMigrator (Reply 75):
Consider that the 747-400 in this photo is in the foreground

que increible!!!!!  crazy 
I didnt think the difference was that big...
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:39 am



Quoting Macc (Reply 77):
I didnt think the difference was that big...

Just wait for the A380-900.  Big grin

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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:48 am

Thanks for linking to that picture!

That single shot pretty much tells it all, doesn't it?

The 747-400 -in the foreground BTW!- looks like a fragile little old plane compared to the robust, brand new shiny work house taxiing behind it!

Careful in the turn, Airbus, or you'll blow the dethroned queen of the skies over with some idle thrust from your massive engines. 

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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:54 am

Awesome photo! The A380 sure is huge!

But I do think that the angle doesn't help the 747.
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Thu Nov 22, 2007 1:34 pm



Quoting Dambuster (Reply 17):

I don't know how one can say the A380 is beautiful, especially when they admire the Constellation's majesty...

That's because it's just your humble opinion that the A380 is ugly.
 
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Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:13 pm



Quoting Keta (Reply 80):
I do think that the angle doesn't help the 747

Actually it does!

This picture has the 747 in the foreground AND it is a view from some height above, thus hiding the dramatic difference in tail height between both planes, without showing the total size of the A380 wing...

Put the 747 next to the A380 and take a picture from 'roughly' terminal level and you'll get a far more dramatic impression of the A380 dwarfing the 747, just as can be seen in the picture of the 2 scale models in reply 11.
 
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:01 pm

Well there seems to be a majority opinion that the 380 is not a "looker." I would conquer.

However, it is partially simply as factor of it's size. As moving things (such as machinery, birds, animals) are created larger, physics dictates that their extremities become proportionally larger than the body than with smaller versions, due to the forces primarily of gravity, wind resistance, momentum, etc. This gives them their stubby appearance. It's basically the opposite explanation as compared to why small insects experience lives of near weightlessness and can have such small wings and legs compared to their size.

However, compounding the 380s ugly duckling status are it's wings and empennage which were over-designed in anticipation of stretched versions of the A/C. (This can be compared to bear cubs, swan chicks, puppies of large dog breeds who have awkward appearances due to oversized appendages that they have yet to "grow into.") And on that note, I would draw our attention to the 747-SP, which was an interesting bird but not one that we could have described as "attractive," especially if it had been the only 747 variant to be considered.

I have seen artist's conceptions of stretched variants of the 380, and they do seem more proportionate to me, and more visually pleasing. Now that the larger variant (is it the 900?) has been given the go-ahead, we will see a more attractive 380 in the future.

The one design aspect I do fault Airbus on is the placement of the cockpit, giving the A/C that "forehead" appearance. I HOPE they placed the cockpit between decks for technical reasons, such as a similar pilot orientation to other Airbus product, and not for some vain concern about the 380 resembling or appearing to imitate the 747. I think a more upper placement of the cockpit could have potentially been not only more attractive, but more importantly facilitated front end loading. (Is that a legitimate capability for a double decker freighter to have, or in order to make the A/C a candidate for military support application?) Also - I suspect there would have been more efficient and flexible usage of the area immediately behind the cockpit had it been built fully on the 2nd deck (such as additional revenue seating.)
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:04 pm



Quoting Dambuster (Reply 31):
More people think it's ugly... I don't even need to prove it, look at this topic headache

BS. It's more that the haters feel the need to voice their opionions more often.
 
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:16 pm



Quoting Oldeuropean (Reply 78):
Just wait for the A380-900.

By then we'll be able to compare it with the 748.... Big grin
 
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:16 pm



Quoting SSTsomeday (Reply 83):
I would conquer.

Take it easy on the big girl Monsieur Conquerer, It's concur  Wink

I can certainly see the size difference also, spot on shot Big grin would Love to see more angles though.
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Sat Nov 24, 2007 4:28 pm



Quoting Toast (Reply 57):
I'd hate to stir the pot a bit more, but I'm worried by people who are so obsessed by the looks of airplanes, it seems bordering on fetishism.

Caring about the looks of an aircraft is bordering on fetishism? Would you say the same thing about the people who spend hundreds of thousands of dollars rebuilding classic cars and designing newer, more efficient ones? While i agree that looks obviously arent the focal point of aircraft design, you should be thankful there are people who care about the looks of aircraft. Thats part of what makes flight such a beautiful phenomenon.
 
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Sun Nov 25, 2007 3:53 am



Quoting NwAflyer07 (Reply 87):
you should be thankful there are people who care about the looks of aircraft.

Not among those who design them, apparently - there are no fundamental aesthetic differences between modern jets. Their shape is dictated by economic factors and nothing else, that's why they're so difficult to tell apart by laymen. And no, I really don't care what an airplane looks like, as long as it isn't rusty and there isn't chewing gum on my seat.  Smile What the F/As look like is of much greater interest to me.  duck 

Quoting NwAflyer07 (Reply 87):
Would you say the same thing about the people who spend hundreds of thousands of dollars rebuilding classic cars

Perhaps my unfortunate use of the word "fetishism" is what got me flamed... What I meant is it's futile to expect any kind of new aircraft design where aesthetic considerations would trump efficiency. Moan all you want about the exterior looks of any aircraft, they ain't gonna change for yours or for anybody's viewing pleasure. I like planes, but let's be reasonable - they're still just machines meant to haul people and cargo, not awe spectators at airshows. They're doomed to be all nearly identical tubes with wings for the foreseeable future.


Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 71):
So if only geeks find planes attractive (just like most people also find cars attractive) why do you go into such a long detail about how it looks like?

I commented on its size and solidity, not its "beauty". And no, I don't like cars.  Smile

Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 71):
sexy?? oops! you're a geek too

Forgot the quotes " "... I think I'm probably one of the least geeky people around here as far as aviation is concerned - never been spotting, and I don't own a single aviation-related book or object... And I still can't tell the 737 variants apart. Maybe I shouldn't admit that openly here...  boxedin   Smile
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Sun Nov 25, 2007 8:10 am



Quoting StealthZ (Reply 7):
the wings are impressive( I am the first to admit that from an engineering and aesthetic perspective, they are just gorgeous)



Quoting Swallow (Reply 10):
Agreed. It is the gull-wing shape that catches the eye. Those wings are massive!



Quoting Birdbrainz (Reply 37):
The A380 has continued the new tradition of a tube with wings on it.

Granted, they are some very cool-looking wings.



Quoting StealthZ (Reply 49):
I doubt I will ever call it beautiful or graceful(except for those stunning wings)



Quoting JMULAH (Reply 52):
(the wingspan ie incredible!)



Quoting Planesavvy (Reply 55):
The wings are huge.



Quoting Toast (Reply 57):
the A380 wing is stunning (on which, oddly enough, we almost all seem to agree)



Quoting Norcal773 (Reply 69):
it's wingspan in just amazing. If that doesn't impress you, then you're just being plain biased.

Some gals have the legs, some have it up front, some have it in the face, some have a body that won't quit. While I can't speak for everybody, I think many, many are with me when I say that for me with the A380, its the wings! They are big, they are beautiful, they have curves and lift that can't be denied.

They are amazing!

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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:50 am



Quoting StealthZ (Reply 7):
possibly with somewhat less fanfare



Quoting StealthZ (Reply 7):
I do think Boeing, if they cared to, could have achieved the same result... possibly with somewhat less fanfare(and perhaps less angst)

i really doubt that!! from we have seen at the 787 "rollout"  duck 
 
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:03 pm



Quoting Jfk777 (Reply 14):
The A380 is a levathon, its cockpit is ugly(outside) and has no grace. What ever 38 year old draw back the 744 has it is a graceful bird with its cockpit in the penthouse and first class in the nose. If an elephant could fly it would be an A380.

the A380 is the new big predator and is eating the B747 RAW!!! as simple as it is, it's what i call Evolution.

simply put
 
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RE: A380/744 Real Photo Comparison

Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:14 pm



Quoting Dazeflight (Reply 84):
The one design aspect I do fault Airbus on is the placement of the cockpit, giving the A/C that "forehead" appearance. I HOPE they placed the cockpit between decks for technical reasons, such as a similar pilot orientation to other Airbus product, and not for some vain concern about the 380 resembling or appearing to imitate the 747. I think a more upper placement of the cockpit could have potentially been not only more attractive, but more importantly facilitated front end loading. (Is that a legitimate capability for a double decker freighter to have, or in order to make the A/C a candidate for military support application?) Also - I suspect there would have been more efficient and flexible usage of the area immediately behind the cockpit had it been built fully on the 2nd deck (such as additional revenue seating.)

The cockpit is where it is due to:
Ease of taxi concerns,
Aerodynamics,
etc...

Nothing to do with resembling the 747. Remember that the 747 cockpit was placed on the upper deck (and the upper deck created as well) just to have a hinged nose for cargo, as when it was designed, everybody thought eventually passengers would be using SST and not 747s.

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