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avi8tir
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New Arrival Into SNA?

Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:35 am

I've been noticing a change in the arrivals into SNA over the last week. I have no doubt it is due to the fires (I believe the santiago fire is still burning). The normal arrival for aircraft coming from most east destinations would be the KAYOH 4 arrival. it seems the aircraft are heading south of santiago peak to the ocean and then inland and then a 180 degree turn to the left for 19R. any official word on this?

thanks!


see this example


http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N205EE

[Edited 2007-11-04 18:40:40]
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boeingfever777
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RE: New Arrival Into SNA?

Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:51 am

http://www.ocair.com/newsandfacts/ne...sreleases/2007/NR-2007-10-221.html

Simple look on there site and you will see...


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RE: New Arrival Into SNA?

Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:10 am

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 1):

Not quite, this information is probably still interesting to some people who wouldn't think to look on the website.

Anyway, without checking the websites of every major airport in southern California, are operations still affected anywhere else?
 
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RE: New Arrival Into SNA?

Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:35 am

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 1):
Simple look on there site and you will see...

Since the linked page is dated Oct.22, what were you trying to indicate? That info is way out of date.

Quoting Avi8tir (Thread starter):
it seems the aircraft are heading south of santiago peak to the ocean and then inland and then a 180 degree turn to the left for 19R. any official word on this?

Nothing "official" but there remains a TFR over the Santiago fire area which prohibits using the Kayoh arrival. SoCal has been vectoring airliners south of the TFR, then north to either a left or right downwind (depends upon traffic). Private planes from the east are being vectored north of the TFR, then straight to the airport. Only change on departures is that there are a bit more vectors than normal (non-fire) ops.
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RE: New Arrival Into SNA?

Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:28 am

Quoting AAR90 (Reply 3):

Don't cry...  Sad We all those those winds and Fires are still causing havoc... Parents reside in Laguna Beach, they both fly SNA-SFO and overseas for their jobs. The thread starter answered his own question from the beginning. Nuh said...
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RE: New Arrival Into SNA?

Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:29 am

Flew into SNA fron DFW last Sunday. Fires were still raging in the foothills. We entered over Lake Forest/Mission Viejo area (South County) (flew right over my house!), turned right over Ivrine, then did a tight left turn over Orange because we lined up to land over the 55 Freeway (which is the normal route).
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RE: New Arrival Into SNA?

Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:31 am

This website should answer your question

www4.passur.com/sna.html, you can check flight activity by date and time.
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RE: New Arrival Into SNA?

Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:21 pm

Quoting BoeingFever777 (Reply 4):
Don't cry...

Not crying, but your "answer" provided no answer. Originator wanted to know if there was any "official word" about what he was observing "over the last week." Providing reference to two week old information (more than a week PRIOR to his observations) can not possibly answer his question. The Santiago fire (the only one affecting SNA operations) has created a minor change to flight ops (very similar to Rwy-01 ops). Nothing major and still no official announcements.

Quoting McMax (Reply 5):
Fires were still raging in the foothills.

IMHO, "ongoing" but not "raging." Our different definitions are probably because I have lived through both Cedar and Witch Creek fires... Now those were "raging" fires.
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