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AirframeAS
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RE: WN And 737-500's

Sat Nov 10, 2007 8:16 am

Silver1SWA: Which flight numbers/city pairs do the 735's operate into SAN? I have yet to fly on a WN 735 and want the opportunity to do so.
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RE: WN And 737-500's

Sat Nov 10, 2007 8:22 am

Quoting 747fan (Reply 35):
Due to that, can WN (or any other airline, such as UA or CO) pilots fly interchangeably between a 733/735 and a 737-700, despite the significantly different cockpits?

CO pilots fly all 5 of CO's 737 types (-300, -500, -700, -800 and -900). UA has 2 versions, the -300 and -500. IIRC, AS pilots operate all 4 of their sub-types (-400, -700, -800 and -900).

Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 41):

Quoting FlyHoss (Reply 32):
There are at least 2 wingletted -500s flying at CO.

Are there any pics in the database?

I just looked and didn't find any photos in this database, but here's one at another site:

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5942550&nseq=26
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RE: WN And 737-500's

Sat Nov 10, 2007 1:48 pm

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Reply 39

Piedmont was launch for the 737-400, not -300. Peidmont was a great airline
 
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RE: WN And 737-500's

Sat Nov 10, 2007 9:42 pm

Quoting N702ML (Reply 48):
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Last year I flew OKC-LAS, the once a day flight, on a -700. That must have been a fairly empty flight. On my flight, they were asking people to give up seats.
 
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RE: WN And 737-500's

Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:26 pm

Is the -500 the shortest length 737 or is the -600?
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RE: WN And 737-500's

Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:08 am

Quoting 7E72004 (Reply 54):
Is the -500 the shortest length 737 or is the -600?

It's actually the -100 (94'), then the -200 (100' 2"), then the -500 (101' 9"), then the -600 (102' 6")

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RE: WN And 737-500's

Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:11 am

I see...there weren't many 737-600s built were there? Did WN operate any?
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RE: WN And 737-500's

Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:12 am

Quoting 7E72004 (Reply 56):
I see...there weren't many 737-600s built were there? Did WN operate any?

I thought WN was the launch customer for the 736.
 
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RE: WN And 737-500's

Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:41 am

Quoting Tdscanuck (Reply 46):
I've got the giggles thinking about dispatchers as "airplane wranglers". There's a really good TV commercial in that somewhere.

Maybe not dispatchers...

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 47):
one of our equipment routing folks asked if he could replace the -700 assigned to my PHL-LAX flight with a -300

... there are more than just the dispatchers in an operation center.

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 47):

Problem. The problem was that, even with a half payload, the winds aloft were so strong that day that I got a "Need MBF" error, i.e. "need more burnable fuel."

Thanks for that story, I was about to ask the follow-up even without that: if they want to do a swap, you run plans for the entire rest of the rotation? I mean, if they wanted to swap a -300 for a -700 in FLL scheduled for some FLL-MCO-PHL without realizing that they'd have trouble on the subsequent PHL-LAX... so you run the rest of the day, or even more? Do you have a single click to check all those, or need to run each one separately, or just identify the one that will be critical and run that one?
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RE: WN And 737-500's

Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:48 am

Quoting BAKJet (Reply 57):
I thought WN was the launch customer for the 736.

Nope. One type that's never been here.

Quoting 3201 (Reply 58):
... there are more than just the dispatchers in an operation center.

Really?  Wink

Quoting 3201 (Reply 58):
if they want to do a swap, you run plans for the entire rest of the rotation? I mean, if they wanted to swap a -300 for a -700 in FLL scheduled for some FLL-MCO-PHL without realizing that they'd have trouble on the subsequent PHL-LAX... so you run the rest of the day, or even more? Do you have a single click to check all those, or need to run each one separately, or just identify the one that will be critical and run that one?

Not a single click--each dispatcher in each sector has to take a look to see if that aircraft's flight through his/her sector is doable, and the vast majority will be, and one can usually tell by just looking at the pax load and stage length. Long-haul westbound in the winter-time commonly rings mental bells early-on...
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RE: WN And 737-500's

Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:18 am

Well, the US Navy has a 737-600. I'll let you guys pull up the pictures of it, but it's a former Lauda Airlines 737-600. That's really the only 737-600 that I know of flying the skies of the USA. I may be wrong on that, but I can't think of any other carrier with one in their fleet.

WN's '500's make it into BNA daily on BNA-BHM and BNA-MCI routings.
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RE: WN And 737-500's

Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:46 am

Quoting DelawareUSA (Reply 52):
Piedmont was launch for the 737-400, not -300. Peidmont was a great airline

I stand corrected. US took several 733 in early 1984, along with WN launching the type. Up to that point, WN and US had both taken early-80s 732s.

By early 1985, Piedmont was taking 733s. (737-301) which became sister ships with US 737-3B7s soon after.

Apparently, WN now operates some ex-Piedmont 737-301 such as N659SW and N660SW.
 
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RE: WN And 737-500's

Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:27 pm

Quoting Lexy (Reply 60):
Well, the US Navy has a 737-600.

Indeed, you are correct! But it appears it is still owned by Laudia and leased by the U.S. Navy for crew training.
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RE: WN And 737-500's

Sun Nov 11, 2007 10:36 pm

Forgive any "ignorance," but is the -600 the last one of the "classic" 737 before the NGs (700s, 800s, and 900s)?
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RE: WN And 737-500's

Sun Nov 11, 2007 10:38 pm

Quoting 7E72004 (Reply 63):
Forgive any "ignorance," but is the -600 the last one of the "classic" 737 before the NGs (700s, 800s, and 900s)?

No the -500 is the last "classic" 737.
 
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RE: WN And 737-500's

Sun Nov 11, 2007 11:46 pm

LH was the launch customer for the -100
UA was the launch cstomer for the -200
US & SW wre the launch customers for the -300
PI was the launch customer for the -400
SW was the launch customer for the -500
SAS was the launch customer for the -600
SW was the launch customer for the-700
Hapag-Lloyd was the launch customer for the -800
AS was the launch customer for the -900
 
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RE: WN And 737-500's

Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:28 am

Quoting Phllax (Reply 65):

Um, I don't think Air Namibia launched the 737-300/500/700. Try WN ...
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RE: WN And 737-500's

Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:25 am

Quoting N702ML (Reply 48):
For the rest of the month I am scheduled to work a -500 on....

Would you be able to comment on whether or not a 735 flight is more likely to overbook than a 733/73G flight?
 
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RE: WN And 737-500's

Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:02 am

Quoting Lexy (Reply 60):
That's really the only 737-600 that I know of flying the skies of the USA. I may be wrong on that, but I can't think of any other carrier with one in their fleet.

The only airline in North America operating the 737-600 is WestJet. 13 of their 67 737NGs are -600s (also 48 -700s and 6-800s).
 
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RE: WN And 737-500's

Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:21 am

Quoting SW733 (Reply 9):
There are so few left

Few only in that they only ever had a relative few. The 25 in the fleet are the 25 WN took delivery of.

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 17):

I wouldn't say "never"--and I did say that some of the -500s "escape" their normal footprint once in awhile...

Sort of like the -200s did before they retired.

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 34):
SNA is pretty restricted in terms of noise levels and the 73G's level is pretty low compared to its counterparts of the 733 and 735.

I think the biggest reason is payload, which allows them to carry cargo out of SNA

Quoting DelawareUSA (Reply 36):
Why did SW purchase the -500?

Because they best approximated the size of the aircraft that was still the backbone of their fleet, the -200. Also, the -500 is light enough to have a respectable CASM at the right acquisition price.

Quoting LASOctoberB6 (Reply 41):

I thought it was United...

United launched the -200, which essentially turned the 737 into a juggernaut

Quoting BAKJet (Reply 57):

I thought WN was the launch customer for the 736.

No

Quoting 7E72004 (Reply 56):
I see...there weren't many 737-600s built were there?

They are still in production, but you are correct that not many have been built

Quoting 7E72004 (Reply 63):
Forgive any "ignorance," but is the -600 the last one of the "classic" 737 before the NGs (700s, 800s, and 900s)?

The -600 is an NG
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RE: WN And 737-500's

Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:42 am

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 33):
In the waning days of the -200, crews for them were only out of a couple, and then only a single base. Since they're gone, crews from any base can fly any 733/735/737 we have...

Ooh - I was there in the waning days of the 200. My last flight as a WN employee was a 732 from HOU-DAL...I sat in club seating - in style baby - the only way to go!
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RE: WN And 737-500's

Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:51 am

Quoting Planespotting (Reply 70):
My last flight as a WN employee was a 732 from HOU-DAL...I sat in club seating - in style baby - the only way to go!

Too bad WN "re-modeled" the 733's and 735's and got rid of the club seating  Sad
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RE: WN And 737-500's

Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:41 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 69):
I think the biggest reason is payload, which allows them to carry cargo out of SNA.

I disagree. AS stopped flying their 734's into/out of SNA long ago and its a full 737NG station for them. Its all about the noise restrictions.
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RE: WN And 737-500's

Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:11 am

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 50):
Silver1SWA: Which flight numbers/city pairs do the 735's operate into SAN? I have yet to fly on a WN 735 and want the opportunity to do so.

I don't see any daily -500 routes through SAN, but it looks like we get a couple of -500s on the weekends.

-Sat, 674 SJC-SAN turns out 1156 SAN-ELP
-Sun, 3843 OAK-SAN turns out 213 SAN-LAS
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