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(Picture curtsy of Al Riyadh Newspaper)


Prince Alwaleed bin talal, the well known Saudi Billionaire, was the first private buyer of the A380.. he decided to call it "The Flying Palace"..

Full Article By Reuters
http://investing.reuters.co.uk/news/...US-ALWALEED-UPDATE-1-CORRECTED.XML

[Edited 2007-11-12 20:58:36]
 
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Thats surprising because

a, he just bought a B744 a couple of years ago

b, even if it meant buying something as extravagant as an Airliner for yourself,he made sure he got good deals on it hence never bought anything brand new.His A342 came from the Sultan of Brunei's royal fleet and the B763 came from a financially troubled GF and he got them for a fraction of its original price.

It would be quite a collection to have a B744 and an A380 as your private jets,lets not even mention the A342 and B763 (which would probably be gone by then anyway).
 
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Is that John Leahy - looking chirpy as a sparrow - on the right?

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Excerpt from the Aviation Week & Space Technology blog covering the DXB airshow:

What’s a billionaire to do when he wants to get to the Dubai air show to sign for his newest aircraft without dealing with traffic and all those other nuisances that come with such an event? One option, perhaps the only fitting one for the first buyer of a private A380, is to fly in. Of course, Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal bin Abdulaziz Alsaud, the chairman of the multi-billion Kingdom Holding, wouldn’t just fly in with any old airplane. Instead, he lands in his 747-400 (the only privately owned aircraft of the type). Prince Alwaleed landed, got out of the aircraft, signed for the A380, took a brief tour of an A380 that was on hand, and then got back on his 747-400 and was off. All in a days work. The aircraft will be powered by Rolls-Royce Trent 900 engines. It will take about two years to do the cabin fitting once Airbus delivers the aircraft, so the prince will have to make do with flying his 747-400 for some time longer. It's a tough life.

Quoting KHI747 (Reply 1):
His A342 came from the Sultan of Brunei's royal fleet and the B763 came from a financially troubled GF and he got them for a fraction of its original price.

And his current 744 is a 15-year-old ex-Air China aircraft.

Quoting Mariner (Reply 2):
Is that John Leahy - looking chirpy as a sparrow - on the right?

Yes.
 
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I am glad my extra .30 cents at the pumps (in a week) is going for a good cause!
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Quoting Nuori5084 (Reply 4):
I am glad my extra .30 cents at the pumps (in a week) is going for a good cause!

Roger that! That alternative energy land mine lurks in his future, so enjoy the big jets while they last.
The Donald weighed in on this a couple of years ago. I can't quote what he said exactly, but something to the effect of personal wide bodies being ridiculous, and he could afford one if he wanted a 748 or A380. I guess he's perfectly happy with his 727. Big grin
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Would be interesting to see its Interiors when ready  Smile
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Prince Alwaleed bin talal of Saudi Arabia: from the camels to the A380.
Good thing he could not buy a Concorde!  laughing 
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Quoting Nuori5084 (Reply 4):
I am glad my extra .30 cents at the pumps (in a week) is going for a good cause!

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So will Prince Alaweed be the sole private owner of A380? Congratulations to him anyway.
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Quoting Nuori5084 (Reply 4):
I am glad my extra .30 cents at the pumps (in a week) is going for a good cause!

he is a global business man .. he does have anything to do with the oil or oil related business.. but if u have an account in citibank or have stayed at the plaza hotel in NYC you might have helped  Smile
 
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If one can judge from the locally preferred style as seen in DXB, EK's F suites, or in the Burj Al Arab (maybe the most hideous hotel interior on earth), a style for which the first word that comes to mind is probably not "restrained" or "subdued", seeing the Flying Palace's interior might well induce uneasyness on the eyes, dizzyness in the head, stomach cramps and possibly, if they really go overboard with its design (and why not?), fainting.

BTW: I really like the title of the thread... VIP Costumer. Just switch two vocals, and one is probably much closer to the truth than with "Customer", in a way...  

Oh, and JL does look very happy indeed in the photo.

[Edited 2007-11-13 01:30:35]
 
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Quoting Nuori5084 (Reply 4):
I am glad my extra .30 cents at the pumps (in a week) is going for a good cause!

= Oh come on ... you stop buying his oil, he stops buying these unnecessary products. I see the 380 as the Hummer for the super rich. Both equally sad.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 8):
Prince Alwaleed bin talal of Saudi Arabia: from the camels to the A380.
Good thing he could not buy a Concorde!

= Maybe he realized (like most airlines), what a big economic loss the Concorde was  Sad.

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Quoting Mariner (Reply 2):
Is that John Leahy - looking chirpy as a sparrow - on the right?

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If I were JL I would of course be happy about another sale but would probably avoided being in the picture.
Something obscene and grotesque about these vulgar displays of wealth.
 
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Quoting Philzh (Reply 12):
If one can judge from the locally preferred style as seen in DXB, EK's F suites, or in the Burj Al Arab (maybe the most hideous hotel interior on earth), a style for which the first word that comes to mind is probably not "restrained" or "subdued", seeing the Flying Palace's interior might well induce uneasyness on the eyes, dizzyness in the head, stomach cramps and possibly, if they really go overboard with its design (and why not?), fainting.

If you've ever seen the inside of a historic palace of an old Islamic caliph in Turkey or the Middle East, "restrained in style" is definite not it. I wouldn't be surprised the interior of the VIP A380-800 will be quite lavish in design, especially with stunning Arabic calligraphy.  Smile
 
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Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 7):
Would be interesting to see its Interiors when ready

As to what sort of amenities the Prince will choose to trick out his new plane, Airbus has remained mum. Perhaps we could suggest a lovely virgin cow-hide psychiatrist's couch where he can discuss all those mummy issues?

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusive...ad-superrich-feel-supermalaise.php

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Quoting Caljn (Reply 14):

Something obscene and grotesque about these vulgar displays of wealth.

The man just bought an A380....this is an aviation board...how is that not every a.netters dream?

Your jealousy probably clouds your thinking.
 
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I am still trying to figure out how they are going to engineer in a Jacuzzi into the 380. Imagine pulling one neg G during heavy turbulence. All those naked bodies and water sloshing around the cabin.

[Edited 2007-11-13 08:09:14]
 
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Nice, now if Airbus can find 200 more of him they will be in business  biggrin 
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Quoting Nuori5084 (Reply 4):
I am glad my extra .30 cents at the pumps (in a week) is going for a good cause!

Remember that a good deal of those extra 30cents goes into the pockets of the American oil companies.... Big grin
 
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Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 3):
It will take about two years to do the cabin fitting once Airbus delivers the aircraft,

Two years?? whoa!
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Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 19):
Nice, now if Airbus can find 200 more of him they will be in business

Well, looks they've already found the next two...
http://www.airbus.com/en/presscentre...s/07_11_13_al_jaber_a318elite.html

Only 198 left to go. wink 
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Good for him (and Airbus workers) he bought one. This is why I do not have an account at Citi but my local credit union. Anyway, maybe the guy is compensating just like guys with a lot less money compensate by buying Hummers. (I am sure y'all know what I am talking about). Some men simply cannot function without exterior signs of their manhood.  mischievous 
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Quoting BlatantEcho (Reply 17):
The man just bought an A380....this is an aviation board...how is that not every a.netters dream?

Your jealousy probably clouds your thinking.

Nah...just a socialist.
 
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Call me whatever you want but I'm actually sickened by that picture.

A man in charge of a dark middle ages-apartheid-misogynist-religious-oppressive regime. He gets a big plane and we are all supposed to clap our little hands. Makes me ill. A sale is sale but not this one.
 
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Quoting BlatantEcho (Reply 17):
Your jealousy probably clouds your thinking.

Nope, just tha fact that it was funded by the average American's and European's wallet. The sad part is that it's the one's who can least afford it who get hit the hardest. Jealous? Hardly...
Yeah, I know he has investments, but he invests daddy's money, and we all know where dear old dad's money comes from.  Wink
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Quoting KHI747 (Reply 1):
even if it meant buying something as extravagant as an Airliner for yourself,he made sure he got good deals on it hence never bought anything brand new.His A342 came from the Sultan of Brunei's royal fleet and the B763 came from a financially troubled GF and he got them for a fraction of its original price.

He sold them off when he bought the Air China 744. How long will he keep the 744 after his new TOY arrives?
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Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:35 pm

Shocking!
If the guy want's to spend that kind of cash. I can think of over a hundred charities that would more than welcome a donation.
They would also be very grateful!
Out of interest what happens when he is not using it it? Presumably it just sits on the tarmac somewhere gathering dust.
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The U.S is considering that Air Force One will be replaced by the A380, so who will pay for it; the American tax payer or your extra .30 cents on gas a week? Or sorry, only Air Force One has the right be an A380 or Concord for that matter...?
 
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Look at it this way, that cash for the A380 has not gone to funding even more Madrassas 'teaching' an extreme form of Islam.

While it is extravagant, can we really say that the objections here would be the same if some US billionaires were out buying some new 747's for themselves?
I doubt it, while of course peoples personal politics all differ, to have posts from the nation most associated with uber-capitalism and who usually is not shy of flaunting great wealth, all those TV shows, magazine articles effectively celebrating it, sets my irony detector off!
 
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Quoting Rams777 (Reply 29):
The U.S is considering that Air Force One will be replaced by the A380

While the US may officially 'consider' the 380 to replace the current Boeings. I doubt there is a member of this site that believes Airbus has a hope in Hades of supplying aircraft for that role.
With the current US financial situation and a likely shift in government in a years time, will they even be seriously looking to replace what are likely the best-condition 747s on the planet?

Quoting GDB (Reply 30):
can we really say that the objections here would be the same if some US billionaires were out buying some new 747's for themselves?

In my case, yes. Extreme wealth is fine, and I don't feel there is an obligation to play Robin Hood if you've gone to all the trouble of amassing that money, or even been lucky enough to be born to it.
But how much does one really need? Would a GV or even BBJ not be more than adequate to ferry yourself, family and toys across the oceans? That 744 that dropped into the Dubai airshow...how full (empty) was it? Exactly.
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Quoting Himmelstormer (Reply 25):
A man in charge of a dark middle ages-apartheid-misogynist-religious-oppressive regime. He gets a big plane and we are all supposed to clap our little hands. Makes me ill. A sale is sale but not this one.

= Us vs. Them. Lets play another round of it. Why can't we just accept that the guy is rich (and come on people he is rich because EVERYONE around the world buys his stuff) and needs to show off? Show offs are there in various degrees and manifestations everywhere. Why does everything on A.Net have to ignite national fervour?

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Quoting Nuori5084 (Reply 4):
I am glad my extra .30 cents at the pumps (in a week) is going for a good cause!

I'd be more concerned about other millions of gas guzzlers around the world rather than one single additional VLA...


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can someone post the picture of his 744? thanks
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Bit drab but hey it's better looking that my 747  Wink

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Quoting Nuori5084 (Reply 4):
I am glad my extra .30 cents at the pumps (in a week) is going for a good cause!

 checkmark  Couldn't of said it better.
 
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It would be cool to have some billionares like this as a.netters as they would probably buy some nice classics and fly them around, especially ones with historical significance. Are there any famous billionares on a.net?
 
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Quoting JAM747 (Reply 37):
Are there any famous billionares on a.net?

You're kidding, right?

Quoting Threepoint (Reply 31):
But how much does one really need? Would a GV or even BBJ not be more than adequate to ferry yourself, family and toys across the oceans? That 744 that dropped into the Dubai airshow...how full (empty) was it? Exactly.

Indeed, there's no logical need for something the size of a 380. It's nothing more than a status symbol, something he can say he has, and right now at least, he can be proud of the fact that he's the only private citizen in the world that will have an Airbus 380.

It's gross, just as gross as the soccer mom's I see on the highway driving around their empty Hummer H2s, though on a much smaller scale of course.
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Does anybody else find it strange that a company that takes every opportunity to tell us how "green" they are is selling individual superjumbo jets to avaricious douchebags for their personal use? Just curious.

In any case, "The Flying Palace" is easily the most lamentable name applied to an aircraft since The Offspring's Dexter Holland painted "Anarchy Airlines" on his private jet.
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Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 39):
Does anybody else find it strange that a company that takes every opportunity to tell us how "green" they are is selling individual superjumbo jets to avaricious douchebags for their personal use? Just curious.

A sale is a sale, I'm sure they wouldn't care if they were selling it to Osama Bin Laden himself.
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Quoting Nuori5084 (Reply 4):
I am glad my extra .30 cents at the pumps (in a week) is going for a good cause!

Luxury is relative, some people don't have cars.

I'm sure you would all do the same if you had his wallet. I know i would.
 
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Quoting RUHFlyer (Reply 11):
he does have anything to do with the oil or oil related business.. but if u have an

no kidding, just like how everyone associates Dubai = Oil

Quoting BlatantEcho (Reply 17):
Your jealousy probably clouds your thinking.

Jealously

Quoting Himmelstormer (Reply 25):
A man in charge of a dark middle ages-apartheid-misogynist-religious-oppressive regime

hahahahhaahahhahahaha, do a little bit of reasearch sir. He hired the first woman pilot in Saudi Arabia, he is not a misogynist. read about his political involvement, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alwaleed#Charitable_activities. He is a progressive minded individual, its easy to steretype all Arabs as misogynists and supporters of Terrorism.

BTW, I believe the people who post cynical comments about this guy, are actually Jealous of seeing a rich middle-easterner living their dream (come on, youre telling me you dont want a private jet). sort of like how some whites feel enraged when they see a rich Black man. This man has absolutely nothing to do with the Oil business.
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Quoting MCIGuy (Reply 6):


Quoting Nuori5084 (Reply 4):
I am glad my extra .30 cents at the pumps (in a week) is going for a good cause!

Roger that! That alternative energy land mine lurks in his future, so enjoy the big jets while they last.
The Donald weighed in on this a couple of years ago. I can't quote what he said exactly, but something to the effect of personal wide bodies being ridiculous, and he could afford one if he wanted a 748 or A380. I guess he's perfectly happy with his 727

Wonder why we are not driving around in alt fuel cars ... hmmm ....

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 20):
Remember that a good deal of those extra 30cents goes into the pockets of the American oil companies

Nope - thats additonals 20cents - thats how it all adds up to 3.09 / gall . Every time we fill the tank up he can pay for another gold faucet on this plane ... now thats a thought that'll fester for a while.

Quoting RUHFlyer (Reply 11):
he is a global business man .. he does have anything to do with the oil or oil related business.. but if u have an account in citibank or have stayed at the plaza hotel in NYC you might have helped

well he is a global business man because hes got way too much moolah from oil - not like he build all this ground up. His interview on CNN money was an eye opener ...

http://money.cnn.com/2007/11/08/news...tigroup_alwaleed.fortune/index.htm

Wonder how much of the world is owned by these sheiks...  irked 
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Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 42):

hahahahhaahahhahahaha, do a little bit of reasearch sir. He hired the first woman pilot in Saudi Arabia, he is not a misogynist. read about his political involvement, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alwaleed#Charitable_activities. He is a progressive minded individual, its easy to steretype all Arabs as misogynists and supporters of Terrorism.

Good of you to point this out. I'm not sure how buying an A380 (again, an A380!) for personal use can be considered "progressive" by any definition.

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 42):

BTW, I believe the people who post cynical comments about this guy, are actually Jealous of seeing a rich middle-easterner living their dream

Quite possibly. Frankly, I don't see why anybody needs that kind of aircraft for themselves...given that Airbus has often billed the A380 as an efficient aircraft on the basis that it moves more people on one airframe, selling them to individuals seems a little silly. As 777STL said though, "a sale is a sale."

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 42):
(come on, youre telling me you dont want a private jet).

No.
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Quoting 777STL (Reply 40):
I'm sure they wouldn't care if they were selling it to Osama Bin Laden himself.

Well, they are a French company!!!  Wink
 
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Quoting Threepoint (Reply 31):
Would a GV or even BBJ not be more than adequate to ferry yourself, family and toys across the oceans?

He has the KINGDOM 5KR for that.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Yacht123.jpg


Quoting MCIGuy (Reply 6):
The Donald weighed in on this a couple of years ago. ..... I guess he's perfectly happy with his 727.

So he sold the above yacht (at a tidy profit, might I add) to Khashoggi who then resold it to the Prince (or was it the other way around?)

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Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:12 pm



Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 42):
BTW, I believe the people who post cynical comments about this guy, are actually Jealous of seeing a rich middle-easterner living their dream (come on, youre telling me you dont want a private jet). sort of like how some whites feel enraged when they see a rich Black man. This man has absolutely nothing to do with the Oil business.

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Quoting MCIGuy (Reply 26):
just tha fact that it was funded by the average American's and European's wallet.

thats the funniest thing I have ever heard yet in this thread .. can you please explaine how did you "fund" his airplane ? .. and please don't say by buying gas.. for gods sake he DOESNT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH OIL.. the problem is that when people think middle east wealth = oil which is not always true

Quoting Himmelstormer (Reply 25):
Call me whatever you want but I'm actually sickened by that picture.

A man in charge of a dark middle ages-apartheid-misogynist-religious-oppressive regime. He gets a big plane and we are all supposed to clap our little hands. Makes me ill. A sale is sale but not this one.

thats so stuiped and ignorant.. what "regime" is he in charge of ?

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 20):
Remember that a good deal of those extra 30cents goes into the pockets of the American oil companies....

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RE: The Mysterious A380 VIP Customer..revealed

Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:20 pm



Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 33):


Quoting Nuori5084 (Reply 4):
I am glad my extra .30 cents at the pumps (in a week) is going for a good cause!

Funnily enough...some of that money does go to a good cause....in YOUR country as well as others around the globe....So some of that money does come back to America in the form of charity....He's trying to bridge a gap between eastern and western cultures.

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Al-Walid is heavily involved in charitable activities across the Middle East, Asia and Africa, and is estimated to donate more than $100 million annually to charity. Much of this expenditure is in the field of educational initiatives to bridge gaps between Western and Islamic communities by funding centers of American studies and research in universities in the Middle East and centers of Islamic studies in American universities.

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RE: The Mysterious A380 VIP Customer..revealed

Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:32 pm



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 8):
Prince Alwaleed bin talal of Saudi Arabia: from the camels to the A380.
Good thing he could not buy a Concorde!

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