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EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:59 pm

U2 today announced two new routes: LTN to JER and LPL to JER.

See this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/jersey/7105469.stm.

All very interesting! Does anybody have any information on frequency or timings? Will these routes be in place of other summer routes or are we likely to see extra aircraft at LPL and LTN next summer?

[Edited 2007-11-21 15:00:05]
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:12 pm

The easyJet press release states they will both be operating daily and timings will be relased late Nov/early Dec.

https://www.easyjet.com/EN/News/cheap_flights_to_jersey.html

The LTN-JER route should be a hit, as ThomsonFly flew this route over the summer (5x weekly)and payloads were reported to be very good. But decided to withdraw the route to streamline their LCC operation and also the runway at JER could not handle 737-800's which will be operating all their routes next summer.

On another thread people were expecting FlyBE to take over the LTN-JER route, as they have recently launched an IOM service. But would not expect this to materialise now.

I think the Jersey government will be pleased to see these routes and would not be surprised if there was an incentive for easyJet. The Jersey tourist board were very upset when ThomsonFly pulled the plug on routes to the island...
 
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:16 pm



Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 1):
JER could not handle 737-800's

I believe they use the 733 at the moment to JER or they did back in July when I was there - TOM 733 delayed NINE HOURS when the plane went tech.
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:25 am



Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 1):
FlyBE to take over the LTN-JER route

They used to operate this route on Saturdays up until at least two years ago - I used to see Q400's and 146's before that.
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Thu Nov 22, 2007 11:44 am



Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 1):
JER could not handle 737-800's which will be operating all their routes next summer.

Do we assume U2 will be using 737-700s on the LTN route and A319s on the LPL route?
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Thu Nov 22, 2007 1:30 pm



Quoting Sam1987 (Reply 4):
Do we assume U2 will be using 737-700s on the LTN route and A319s on the LPL route?

Seeing as there is nothing else based @ LPL other than 319s I reacon that is probably correct.
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:44 pm



Quoting Ryanair737 (Reply 5):
Seeing as there is nothing else based @ LPL other than 319s I reacon that is probably correct.

When will the remaining 737 U2 bases go Airbus?
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:05 pm

When the leases on the remaining B73G's run out in around 2/3 years time.
 
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:57 pm

It'll be good to have variety! I was glad to see that U2 has already said it is looking at other opportunities to expand from here, so hopefully new opportunities will present themselves: Bristol, STN, NCL ... Gatwick? Now that one would really be interesting.
 
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:24 pm



Quoting Kaitak (Reply 8):
Bristol, STN, NCL ... Gatwick? Now that one would really be interesting.

LGW to JER would be brilliant - BE and BA need some competition as their prices are pretty high. I'd be surprised if U2 could find the slots though.

I imagine BRS and NCL to JER are more likely though.
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:33 pm

JER - IOM is getting rather crowded now with BE direct and Manx2 via Gloucester/Cheltenham
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:40 pm

I prefer not to use U2 as they seem to treat passengers as cattle, but booked far enough in advance, cheap LTN-LPL flight's make a decent option to driving to the region, something I do every other week.
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:18 pm



Quoting Sam1987 (Reply 9):
I'd be surprised if U2 could find the slots though.

Well, they just bought a whole load of LGW-slots a couple of weeks ago, by buying GB Airways. U2 will most probably not continue some of the GB routes (like Egypt) and this will free up some slots for other flights.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 11):
cheap LTN-LPL flight's make a decent option to driving to the region, something I do every other week.

They did not announce LTN-LPL. They did fly the route a couple of years ago, but I'd be very surprised if it ever comes back. With current fuel prices, airport taxes and waiting queues at the airport, flying the route is less and less attractive.
 
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:30 pm



Quoting Joost (Reply 12):
They did not announce LTN-LPL. They did fly the route a couple of years ago, but I'd be very surprised if it ever comes back. With current fuel prices, airport taxes and waiting queues at the airport, flying the route is less and less attractive.

LTN to LPL won't be coming back. Most pax were interlining to European U2 services from LTN - now LPL is an established base, passengers don't need to travel via LTN.
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:17 am

Quoting Sam1987 (Reply 9):

I imagine BRS and NCL to JER are more likely though.

I doubt BRS would work, there simply isn't the business. During the summer there is currently two departures to BRS (1 with airsouthwest via PLH and one direct with BE). The WOW departure certainly doesn't carry many pax to BRS, I'd guess no more than 15 on a full load. Also from what I've heard the BE figures aren't much to write home about.

Do we really think U2 could pull in the business to fill a 319/737 a few times a week? I reckon there are far more lucrative destinations currently not served from BRS (mainly European business destinations).

Not sure about NCL-JER though, but imagine it would be a slightly better picture with less services to that region currently being served ex-JER.

[Edited 2007-11-28 16:42:52]
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:23 pm

Had a look at U2 website toda; no sign of JER-LTN scheds, but JER-LPL are as follows:

LPL-JER (1615-1730)
JER-LPL (1800-1915) Weekdays

LPL-JER (1005-1120) Sat
JER-LPL (1150* Dep)

LPL-JER (1435-1550) Sun
JER-LPL (1620* Dep)

* Didn't actually check the return departures, but based on the 30 mins turnaround, it will be in this ballpark.

Will post the LTN schedules when I see them on U2 site (anyone else sees them first, go ahead!!!)
 
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:27 pm

Im surprised that JER may have offered incentives to U2. They dont need the money, their tourist trade is high end/older spenders or fam,ilies who can afford exisiting fares. i dont think JER wants to turn into an ALC and they have their 'market' to protect.
 
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:35 pm



Quoting Orion737 (Reply 16):
Im surprised that JER may have offered incentives to U2. They dont need the money, their tourist trade is high end/older spenders or fam,ilies who can afford exisiting fares. i dont think JER wants to turn into an ALC and they have their 'market' to protect.

It's not that we want to do that; I think incentives are very important and getting an airline like U2 on board, which can deliver more routes over a period of time is very important. Don't forget that when you see the likes of FR marketing tickets to places we never heard of a few years ago, that is drumming up business for these places and their local economies, taking business away from places like JER. Years ago, JER was much busier than it is now; our tourism sector has suffered and many hotels have had to close and have been turned into apartments. I'm delighted to see U2 be offered incentives and while it may sound like splitting hairs, I call it an investment rather than a subsidy, as some here have called it.
 
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:43 pm

I always thought Jersey had maintained its share of older, wealthier holidaymakers as well as thr families market. Both high spend groups who wouldnt want an ALC holiday, for example. If JER as a result of LCC service becomes a destination for stag and hen parties, it may put off these higher spend tourists.

Also the business/financial sector is thriving and still provides wealth to jersey.
 
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:37 pm



Quoting Joost (Reply 12):
They did not announce LTN-LPL.

- Ah, should have read the initial post better, thanks.
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:08 pm

Hi to all,

Dont know if any of you have picked this up, but U2 anounced LGW-SKG yesterday. Begins January 30th 3 x a week until the summer program.

Dont have a link unfortunately

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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:28 pm

Do olympic still do LGW-SKG? they did for quite some time with the beautiful 717. Which seemed an ideal aircraft for that route.
 
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:34 pm



Quoting SergioAEE (Reply 20):
U2 anounced LGW-SKG yesterday

I see they're testing the low frequency high distance leisure market. We'll see more routes like this from March 2008 when they absorb former GT routes.

The U2 website shows that the summer 2008 flights are now available from most destinations - LGW being a notable exception. I'm guessing they're spending time sorting which GT routes to add/drop.
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:31 pm



Quoting Orion737 (Reply 21):
Do olympic still do LGW-SKG? they did for quite some time with the beautiful 717. Which seemed an ideal aircraft for that route.

If im not incredibly mistaken, they still do fly this but with B73x. The B712 no longer exist at OA. And actually this flight used to be 3 x a week and now I think its 5 x. They definately did increase frequency, just not 100% how much.

I think were gonna start seeing alot more of U2 in the Greek market  Wink

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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:39 pm

Does anybody reckon they might expand at BHX? They start GVA daily from 14th December and Grenoble twice weekly from 22nd December.
They said their GVA route bookings are going so well that they have had to up it to 2 daily during the peak periods over xmas and new year.
 
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:12 pm



Quoting SergioAEE (Reply 20):
Hi to all,

Dont know if any of you have picked this up, but U2 anounced LGW-SKG yesterday. Begins January 30th 3 x a week until the summer program.

Dont have a link unfortunately

SergioAEE

Also MAD-Tangiers and NCL-murcia

Quoting Revo (Reply 24):
Does anybody reckon they might expand at BHX? They start GVA daily from 14th December and Grenoble twice weekly from 22nd December.
They said their GVA route bookings are going so well that they have had to up it to 2 daily during the peak periods over xmas and new year.

Wonder if they will keep GVA year round?
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:09 pm

When will the summer timetable for MAD-ACE/FUE be entered?
Also will GVA-LPA with EasySwiss continue during the summer?

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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Sat Dec 01, 2007 10:29 am



Quoting Acelanzarote (Reply 26):
When will the summer timetable for MAD-ACE/FUE be entered?

In the next few weeks I imagine.

Quoting Acelanzarote (Reply 26):
Also will GVA-LPA with EasySwiss continue during the summer?

I'd be surprised if not. Surely it is mostly a summer route?
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:54 pm

EZY has just released its JER-LTN-JER schedule:

Monday to Friday:
LTN-JER (1245-1350)
JER-LTN (1420-1520)

Saturday:
LTN-JER (1055-1200)
JER-LTN (1230-1330)

Sunday:
LTN-JER (1125-1230)
JER-LTN (1300-1400)
 
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:51 pm



Quoting Orion737 (Reply 18):
I always thought Jersey had maintained its share of older, wealthier holidaymakers as well as thr families market

Without sounding nasty the older tourists reduce though each year and I can't see Jersey been a top place to go on holiday if most families including mine are anything to go by. By the time you have paid for flights there and accomidation its very expensive.
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:41 pm



Quoting Kaitak (Reply 28):
EZY has just released its JER-LTN-JER schedule:

Along with the rest of the LTN summer 2008 schedule. It's just the LGW schedule we're waiting for now.

The JER flights aren't cheap - around GBP50 return from LTN or LPL. You can go much further than that for a similar price on U2!
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:33 pm

My sister holidays at the Merton with her family, just as we did as kids. there are lots of families at this hotel and others on JER. Short flights and not too hot weather is ideal for kids. She isnt badly off though so price is not the most important consideration.

Demographics show an ageing population, which should see Jersey continue to receive a proportion of wealthier, older tourists for whom price is not important.
 
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:27 pm

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 31):



Quoting Orion737 (Reply 31):
Demographics show an ageing population, which should see Jersey continue to receive a proportion of wealthier, older tourists for whom price is not important.

I don't believe that unless your a multi millionaire, you believe price is not important. Rubbish.

Jersey's tourism industry, in it's present state, will begin to decline. Airlines such as EZY have the ability to change this. This won't mean that lower end tourists will take the place over. Indeed, someone once said that if you take a look at LTN's long stay car park, you will find a wide selection Bmw's, Merc's etc. Someone previously said in an earlier post that EZY et al would make JER the ALC of the Channel Islands. This is laughable. Despite Benidorm, the Costa Blanca attracts thousands of second home owners/golf players who by their very nature, are high earners/high spenders.

[Edited 2007-12-07 06:28:42]
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Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:45 pm

Yes but the crowd flocking to ALC arent likely to switch to Jersey. jersey is chosen for its mild climate and attractions. It never wants to be a 'Benidorm' which is why tourism has been carefully controlled. Easyjet flying in people after a booze up session may put off the retired visitors and families market. I know it would me.
 
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:14 am

The nature of jersey won't appeal to the stag party sector. First and foremost, the beer is expensive and secondly, it's quiet.
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Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:48 pm

Talinn and Prague were not exactly top of the list for stag and hen parties but now they are overrun with drunken men and women and lots of locals being 'employed' in the sex industry to serve these markets bought in coutesy of EZY and FR.
 
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Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:03 pm

I find it fascinating that you think the opening of an easyJet route will automatically mean somewhere will turn into a stag and hen party destination.

There are so many factors contributing to somewhere becoming such a destination, cheap flights is indeed one of them, but by no means are the lowcost airlines reponsible for it!
 
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Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:10 pm

They have been a major contributing factor in countries like Czech Republic and Poland, and Estonia. The sad thing is the drunken rabbles crowding these historic cities have a negative social and cultural impact on these societies. before advent of LCCs these destinations were never on the list of places for a 'piss up'
 
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:14 pm

We've had Thomsonfly here (until next year) and bmibaby for a few years and this hasn't happened yet (Jersey becoming a hen/stag destination). It's very encouraging to see U2 starting routes here and I hope it continues to grow; it will help to arrest the decline in rooms available. Of course, Jersey residents will benefit quite a bit (I'm still trying to work out what bit of the concept "Low cost carrier" Flybe doesn't understand) and it will make the island more accessible, as well as making many U2 destinations from LPL and LTN accessible to us, here in Jersey.

At the end of the day, most people, when choosing options for a place away, have a defined budget (say, for arguments sake, £400); the less spent on flights, the more available for accommodation, eating, retail therapy etc, i.e. spending in the local economy, so it makes sense for us to make the island more accessible. I think it's a huge victory for JER and I hope to see more developments yet.

BE has been mentioned in connection with a CDG route and as much as I'd welcome a route to CDG, I'd much rather see an AF partner airline (Regional, Brit Air etc, which have many suitably sized aircraft) do it, because BE would not connect with AF, which is what we really need. If a subsidy is provided for this, the States and Economic Development should ensure that whatever operator is chosen "ticks all the boxes".
 
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Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:22 pm

Well I hope the impacts are positivce for JER. Stripping, prostitution, sex shows etc have proliferated in some Eastern European countries to cater for the customers of EZY etc. Not nice for the host population. Its income but not what they might have liked.
 
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:29 pm

Its a two sided argument, the other side is that these cities have been happy to cater for that market. Tourism money is big bucks. Having been to Prague I found it neither crowded or overrun with with 'drunken rabbles'. There were plenty of British people there; but there were also plenty of other nationalities and I found the city a fascinating cultural place. At no point did I feel the place was ruined by drunken British tourists. Another good measure is the locals. If the Brits really were having such a negative impact; it would be noticeable in the locals attitude toward the British tourists. However I found the Czech people inredibly friendly and welcoming, they seemed genuinely pleased you were there to visit their city, and would always engage in conversation. But I guess that is just my opinion.

Going back to Jersey, easyJet won't turn it into a stag party destination. The prime reason 'drunken rabbles' are visiting cities accross Europe for their 'piss ups' is the availability, and often cost, of their nightlife. Jersey simply doesn't have that kind of nightlife, and I seriously doubt the authorities would let it develop. Just because easyJet fly there it doesn't mean people will hop on a plane and go. If a destination doesn't offer what people want (in this case nightlife), then people won't go, regardless of the flight price.
 
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Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:34 pm

Reasoned point but by 'nightlife' I think we can say 'sex tourism and activities' I feel sorry for the people in these countries who see this as their opportunity to make money from ugly Brits.
 
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:54 pm

To be honest, U2 isn't as much as a chav airline as FR is. U2 has quite a respectable following in the wealthy, elderly market, especially on the routes BA has abandoned.

I think U2 will do well on its new routes to JER - and it really won't turn JER into chav destination. Chavs like cheap booze and high temperatures...
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:07 pm



Quoting Orion737 (Reply 35):
Talinn and Prague were not exactly top of the list for stag and hen parties but now they are overrun with drunken men and women and lots of locals being 'employed' in the sex industry to serve these markets bought in coutesy of EZY and FR.

Nonono, the situation changed when the countries involved joined the European Union, therefore allowing the LCCs to start flights at low prices. As long as the beer stays cheap they'll go there for hen and stag parties.

Quoting Sam1987 (Reply 42):
Chavs like cheap booze and high temperatures...

And egg + chips on the menu with EastEnders being shown on the TV in the bar...that's the impression I got when we went to Majorca nearly 5 years ago and it weren't even Magaluf!
 
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RE: EasyJet Announce LTN/LPL - JER

Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:08 pm

They dont just go for low price beer, hence the proliferation in Eastern Europe of the sex industry, strip joints, lap dancing clubs etc, catering to stag parties.

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Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos