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md90fan
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OS News And Expansion

Sun Nov 25, 2007 8:39 pm


    New Seasonal routes from Innsbruck to Eastern Europe, 777 to PUJ and return of service to Iraq
  • Kiev

    Quote:
    Saturday only service from 29DEC07

    OS669 INN1425 - 1755KBP 738 6
    OS670 KBP1840 - 2015INN 738 6

  • Moscow

    Quote:
    Saturday only service from 29DEC07

    OS671 INN1320 - 1830DME 321 6
    OS672 DME1920 - 2045INN 321 6

  • St.Petersburg

    Quote:
    Sunday service from 29DEC07 with 321, switching to F100 from mid-January

    OS609 INN0705 - 1215LED EQV 7
    OS610 LED1305 - 1425INN EQV 7

  • Charter service to Punta Cana, Dominican Republic will receive Boeing 777s from 19DEC07

    Quote:

    OS9561 VIE1055 - 1645PUJ 772 3
    OS9562 PUJ1815 - 0910+1VIE 772 4

  • And, Austrian plans to return to Erbil, Iraq from 01FEB08:

    Quote:

    OS829 VIE1020 - 1555EBL 32S x246
    OS830 EBL1650 - 1900VIE 32S x246

    This is all on heels of their Focus East strategy with 600 weekly flights to 45 destinations. In Sept., we saw the following:


    • Belgrade: 2 daily flights.
    • Bucharest: gained 3rd daily flight .
    • Kiev: Up to 4 daily flights, (including codeshare with Ukraine International Airlines).
    • Krasnodar: 5th weekly frequency introduced in September 2007 is maintained and the addition of a 6th weekly flight.
    • Podgorica: now 5 weekly service this winter, as opposed to 3 in previous winter season.
    • Rostov: increased from 4 to 5 weekly.
    • Sibiu: increased from 6 weekly to Daily.


    Cheers,
    Devan
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RE: OS News And Expansion

Sun Nov 25, 2007 8:58 pm

Would OS ever consider starting BEY? I know they fly to DAM, but it seems BEY would be a logical market for them.
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RE: OS News And Expansion

Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:22 pm

I'm very surprised that Austrian is sending their 777-200 to PUJ instead of JFK or IAD!
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semsem
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RE: OS News And Expansion

Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:22 am

When I flew OS to Bucharest in 1992, they only had 1 flight daily. They fly to quite a few Romanian cities including Iasi.
 
brightcedars
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RE: OS News And Expansion

Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:55 am



Quoting Copaair737 (Reply 1):
Would OS ever consider starting BEY? I know they fly to DAM, but it seems BEY would be a logical market for them.

They did fly to BEY all year round and then seasonally. But it seems these days they do not fly at all. A pitty because I enjoyed very much their service on the route.
 
NG1Fan
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RE: OS News And Expansion

Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:18 pm

I think all but Erbil are seasonal flights - aimed at the ski-bunnies out there!

Eastern Europe has been a boon to the Austrian skiing industry. I remember sitting next to a resort owner on VIE-INN some two years ago and they were gratefull as anything that the Russians are taking rooms the Germans used to take before they discovered the Dominican Republic as a winter get-away.

Too bad Australia is off that list.

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RE: OS News And Expansion

Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:04 pm



Quoting Copaair737 (Reply 1):
Would OS ever consider starting BEY? I know they fly to DAM, but it seems BEY would be a logical market for them

They used to fly to BEY...but their service has been really strange..I presume it wasn't profitable.

They ran 5x weekly at times and at times 3x weekly during summer seasons (even daily for a short period) while their winter schedule ranged from none to 5 x and equipment ranged fom 737 to A321
 
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RE: OS News And Expansion

Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:23 pm

Do OS serve Constanta or Timisoara??
 
VORFMD
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RE: OS News And Expansion

Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:54 pm

OS 649 EQV 13.25 VIENNA TIMISOARA 15.35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
OS 650 EQV 16.20 TIMISOARA VIENNA 16.35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
OS 647 DH3 22.15 VIENNA TIMISOARA 00.40+ 1 2 3 4 5 7
OS 648 DH3 06.00 TIMISOARA VIENNA 06.20 1 2 3 4 5 6

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 7):
Do OS serve Constanta or Timisoara??

From reliable Sources OS will have the biggest Routeexpansion in 2008 they ever had.

up to 10 new Destinations in eastern Europe and the middle East.

News will follow in the not too distant Future....
 
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RE: OS News And Expansion

Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:41 pm



Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 2):
I'm very surprised that Austrian is sending their 777-200 to PUJ instead of JFK or IAD!

It is basically a charter so OS is not loosing or making a lot of money on this route.

Quoting Yegbey01 (Reply 6):
They used to fly to BEY...but their service has been really strange..I presume it wasn't profitable.

True and since those flights have always been full it is hard to understand that they do not serve BEY anymore.
 
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RE: OS News And Expansion

Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:12 pm

Eastward expansion seems like a smart move by OS. Because of geography and *A, OS competes with LH for most connecting passengers. Opening new markets, and expanding existing ones, in eastern Europe and beyond is an excellent way for OS to distinguish itself.
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SA744
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RE: OS News And Expansion

Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:17 am

Goodday all

Do you think OS will ever start there JNB route again.

Thanks
Chris
 
md90fan
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RE: OS News And Expansion

Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:50 pm



Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 2):
I'm very surprised that Austrian is sending their 777-200 to PUJ instead of JFK or IAD!

Those routes aren't as profitable as the extensive charter program OS has.

I'm surprised they never made their way down to Miami, you'd think with easy connections to Eastern Europe, they'd be a major hit.
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RE: OS News And Expansion

Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:12 pm

How many 772ER's does OS have?? I am assuming 5.

They inherited some from Lauda air. I know 1 is flying to DEL these days?? What about the rest?? I am assuming the 777 also fly to PEK, PVG, NRT or BKK and of course the charter to PUJ???
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RE: OS News And Expansion

Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:16 pm



Quoting Mk777 (Reply 13):
How many 772ER's does OS have?? I am assuming 5

3
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VORFMD
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RE: OS News And Expansion

Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:53 pm



Quoting Macc (Reply 14):
3

4

OE-LPA
OE-LPB
OE-LPC
OE-LPD ( the newest one )

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brightcedars
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RE: OS News And Expansion

Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:57 pm



Quoting OHLHD (Reply 9):
True and since those flights have always been full it is hard to understand that they do not serve BEY anymore.

Well, the good old rules of traditional airline economics. Plane was mostly full but not year-round. Plane was mostly full but not upfront. Plane was mostly full but mostly transfer pax that less revenue than O&D accross the network.

I do regret the service as it was one of the most enjoyable ways to fly from BRU to BEY.
 
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RE: OS News And Expansion

Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:31 pm



Quoting VORFMD (Reply 8):
From reliable Sources OS will have the biggest Routeexpansion in 2008 they ever had.

up to 10 new Destinations in eastern Europe and the middle East.

Do you perhaps know if Nis (INI) is one of the new destinations?
 
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RE: OS News And Expansion

Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:34 pm

Are OS doing Bolzano to Birmingham this winter?
 
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RE: OS News And Expansion

Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:04 pm



Quoting BrightCedars (Reply 16):
Well, the good old rules of traditional airline economics. Plane was mostly full but not year-round. Plane was mostly full but not upfront. Plane was mostly full but mostly transfer pax that less revenue than O&D accross the network.

I do regret the service as it was one of the most enjoyable ways to fly from BRU to BEY.

The price for a VIE-BEY was always high. Therefore I cant understand their decision.  Smile
 
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RE: OS News And Expansion

Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:32 pm



Quoting MD90fan (Reply 12):
'm surprised they never made their way down to Miami, you'd think with easy connections to Eastern Europe, they'd be a major hit.

Austrian flew to Miami throughout the 1990s until 9/11, MIA-MUC-VIE. It would be great to see them back.
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RE: OS News And Expansion

Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:47 pm



Quoting Revo (Reply 18):
Are OS doing Bolzano to Birmingham this winter?

Did they ever do this? Bozen is in Italy and not in Austria. (I know that EU airlines may fly between other EU countries but would this be in OS's interest?)
 
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RE: OS News And Expansion

Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:11 pm



Quoting ZRH (Reply 21):
Did they ever do this? Bozen is in Italy and not in Austria. (I know that EU airlines may fly between other EU countries but would this be in OS's interest?)

Yes they have done this the past two winters as charter flights using Q400. I was just wondering if this is returning this winter
 
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RE: OS News And Expansion

Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:54 pm



Quoting JoKeR (Reply 17):
Do you perhaps know if Nis (INI) is one of the new destinations?

As far as i know NO.

Russia, Bulgaria and Romania is on the card for expansion, as well as one Destination in Poland.
For the middle east: Bahrain/Abu Dhabi, Jeddah/Riyadh and/or Kuwait is on the Cards
 
Damian
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RE: OS News And Expansion

Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:59 pm

Hoping for VIE-EDI with OS.

LH recently indicated that a significant number of passengers use their FRA-EDI service to connect between Edinburgh and Vienna, so there must be plenty of potential for a direct link.
 
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RE: OS News And Expansion

Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:23 pm



Quoting Damian (Reply 24):
Hoping for VIE-EDI with OS.

you´re not the only one hoping this, but i think that NE will serve VIE-EDI before OS will do......
 
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RE: OS News And Expansion

Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:20 pm



Quoting Revo (Reply 22):
Quoting ZRH (Reply 21):
Did they ever do this? Bozen is in Italy and not in Austria. (I know that EU airlines may fly between other EU countries but would this be in OS's interest?)

Yes they have done this the past two winters as charter flights using Q400. I was just wondering if this is returning this winter

Also LGW-Bolzano and MAN-Bolzano. Tour operator is Inghams

Far more importantly Austrian Arrows has a new HUY-INN charter this winter  Wink
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ZRH
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RE: OS News And Expansion

Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:24 pm



Quoting Humberside (Reply 26):
Also LGW-Bolzano and MAN-Bolzano.

Thanks for the answer. But BTW say Bozen not Bolzano. The people there speak German and not Italian and most don't like the Italian name Bolzano.
 
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RE: OS News And Expansion

Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:30 pm

If there is another large expansion planned (as mentioned on this thread), where will Austrian get the aircraft for this. They let go of their A330 fleet. Are new aircraft planned, or will cuts have to be made elsewhere?
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VORFMD
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RE: OS News And Expansion

Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:00 am



Quoting FlyDreamliner (Reply 28):
If there is another large expansion planned (as mentioned on this thread), where will Austrian get the aircraft for this. They let go of their A330 fleet. Are new aircraft planned, or will cuts have to be made elsewhere?

Well, the B736 come back from the US Navy and the two Lauda A320 will transfered back to Austrian. No Expansion on the Longhaul network of Austrian....
 
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RE: OS News And Expansion

Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:21 pm



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 20):
Austrian flew to Miami throughout the 1990s until 9/11, MIA-MUC-VIE.

Well it was flown actually by Lauda-Air. My brother often did the VIE-MUC hop in C-Class.  Smile
 
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RE: OS News And Expansion

Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:38 pm

Will we ever get a OS service back to DUB??? We only see the odd charter now but would be great to get a DUB-VIE 2 to 3 times a week.
 
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RE: OS News And Expansion

Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:26 pm



Quoting ZRH (Reply 27):
But BTW say Bozen not Bolzano. The people there speak German and not Italian and most don't like the Italian name Bolzano.

Well, not exactly.
German is more spread across the whole province of Bolzano (also known as Alto Adige-Südtirol) contrary to Bolzano/Bozen City and surrounding area where the most of people is Italian-speaking (about 73% of total).


Back to OS news, on a sad note : Vienna-Turin (2 daily) seems to be dropped.
 
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RE: OS News And Expansion

Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:50 pm



Quoting VORFMD (Reply 29):
No Expansion on the Longhaul network of Austrian....

In the footsteps of BMI and such, OS's newly reconfigured A320s (with lie-flat J class seats to boot;C24Y102) will be deployed on the following routes:

Vienna-Astana Cairo,Damascus,Dubai and Erbil.

Also, as mentioned in other threads, OS's 2008 cities have been announced:

-Adler/Sochi
-Baia Mare
-Jeddah
-Mostar
-Nizhniy Novgorod
-Riyadh
-Wroclaw


Adler/Sochi and Nizhniy Novogrod skeds below:

Quote:
OS615 VIE2230 - 0330+1AER F70 135
OS616 AER0510 - 0625VIE F70 246



Quote:

OS617 VIE2230 - 0340+1GOJ F70 247
OS618 GOJ0435 - 0615VIE F70 135

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RE: OS News And Expansion

Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:26 pm



Quoting MD90fan (Reply 33):
Quote:
OS615 VIE2230 - 0330+1AER F70 135
OS616 AER0510 - 0625VIE F70 246



Quote:

OS617 VIE2230 - 0340+1GOJ F70 247
OS618 GOJ0435 - 0615VIE F70 135

I think it's great that OS use F70/100 and CRJs on longer flights (2-4 hour nonstops). Shows that these jets are quite capable, despite being slammed here on A.net constantly  Smile
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