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SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:44 pm

The Daily Telegraph has reported that Singapore Airlines is looking to offer flights between Britain and the United States.
Singapore Airlines could soon be competing against British Airways and Virgin Atlantic on lucrative transatlantic routes from London after a new aviation agreement was signed this week.
A spokesman for Singapore Airlines hailed the deal, which gives unfettered access to London-United States routes to non-EU or US airlines for the first time, as "one of the most progressive air service agreements struck in years".
But Singapore Airlines admitted that a shortage of take-off and landing slots at Heathrow has prevented the airline from setting a date for the start of transatlantic flights.
The signing of the "landmark" air services deal between Britain and Singapore also lifts restrictions on flights between the two countries, opening up the route to greater competition, according to the Transport Secretary, Ruth Kelly.
Singapore Airlines was the first to employ the giant double-decker Airbus A380, launching a service between Singapore and Sydney last month. It plans to start using the A380, dubbed the “Superjumbo”, on its London to Singapore flights from February.
 
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:56 pm

Manchester hub PLEASE!

SIN-MAN-IAD
SIN-MAN-JFK

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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:17 pm

Hmmmm - do I sense SQ finding the perfect niche for some of those 773A's? They have CASM thats tough to beat on LHR-East Coast USA.
What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
 
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:22 pm

Doesn't SQ own 49% of VS? Do they really want to compete with them?
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:30 pm

And we have a winner in the naming sweepstakes...Superjumbo, it is.
What the...?
 
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:32 pm

An A380 from Singapore to LHR to JFK, its there style to say they operated the first Trans-Atlantic A380 regularly scheduled flight. Tey can beat BA & Virgin for the bragging rights.
 
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:09 pm

SQ have been wanting to do this for years. Getting the slots is the bigger problem as they would need a departure sometime around 0900-1200 which would allow them to use the inbound SQ322 aircraft. They would also need an arrival slot before 0900 so they could us that inbound aircraft to carry on as the SQ317 to Singapore.
 
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:16 pm



Quoting HUYfan (Reply 1):
Manchester hub PLEASE!

SIN-MAN-IAD
SIN-MAN-JFK

Regards

Mike

You said it, plus BOS or BDL would just do me fine. Why go via the worst connection hub in the world??
 
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:40 pm

Would be great to see SQ UK-USA. It would really shake things up if they had their 77W's on key routes!!!
 
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:27 pm



Quoting Col (Reply 7):
You said it, plus BOS or BDL would just do me fine. Why go via the worst connection hub in the world??

Because thats where the money is. When SQ were pushing for transatlantic rights from Heathrow at the turn of the century they were given the rights to fly from Manchester to the USA. Since then they have never taken up this option so obviously they don't believe there is that much money to be made out of that route.
 
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:29 pm

They already fly JFK-FRA

Used to fly ORD-AMS and EWR-AMS too. Will they ever resume service? When will we see LAS again?
 
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:27 pm



Quoting United Airline (Reply 10):
Used to fly ORD-AMS and EWR-AMS too. Will they ever resume service?

I wouldnt expect EWR-AMS to return since EWR is now served non stop
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:59 pm

Don't they already fly FRA-JFK  confused 

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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:47 pm



Quoting HUYfan (Reply 1):

SIN-MAN-IAD
SIN-MAN-JFK

Regards

Mike

Is SQ still in STAR??? BMI would be rather pissed if SQ started MAN-IAD....ORD-AMS didnt work too well.

Quoting United Airline (Reply 10):
When will we see LAS again?

When did SQ fly to LAS? I think LAS-Transatlantic-SIN would be the long way
 
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:55 pm

Hi
They also use to fly Singapour -bru-jfk in the 90 tees.
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:56 pm



Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 13):
Is SQ still in STAR??? BMI would be rather pissed if SQ started MAN-IAD....ORD-AMS didnt work too well.

Your point being? They may be in an alliance but they are still competitors. If one airline sees an opportunity to fly a route that their partner flies they will take it. *A is so big now you can't avoid competing with your partners. Anyhow why would BD care - they dropped MAN-IAD years ago and don't seem too interested in returning.
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:59 pm

Isn't LHR-JFK saturated already? All I can see is more gridlock.
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:18 pm



Quoting Theginge (Reply 9):
Because thats where the money is. When SQ were pushing for transatlantic rights from Heathrow at the turn of the century they were given the rights to fly from Manchester to the USA. Since then they have never taken up this option so obviously they don't believe there is that much money to be made out of that route.

Glad to hear that all this money is at LHR, probably in all that lost luggage!!!!

It is all well and good that they want to fly from LHR with all the cash there, but without slots no way to put the money bags in the hold!!!

Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 13):
BMI would be rather pissed if SQ started MAN-IAD

BMI grew this route then threw it away, so why should they care if SQ pick up the pieces and show them how a properly run airline does it.

Most of my comments are a little tongue in cheek, I think SQ has already shown their allegience to MAN recently by going from daily, then back to 5 per week, then back daily. Then what an embarrasement when they advertise themselves as the newest Manchester Daily!!!! Love SQ am Gold on them, but those ads were pretty low for them!!
 
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:30 pm



Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 13):
When did SQ fly to LAS? I think LAS-Transatlantic-SIN would be the long way

The used to fly SIN-HKG-LAS vv, using a 772ER. I think it was a 3x weekly flight.
 
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:31 pm

EXT hub!!!

SIN - EXT - BOS
SIN - EXT - YYZ
SIN - EXT - ORD
AF BE BY FR MV PD SZ U2 VZ DHC6, 8-3/4Q, 732/8, 763ER, A319, A380
 
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:32 pm

LHR-JFK Please. Since UA gave that up, there is NO MORE Star Alliance between those two points!!!
 
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:45 pm



Quoting JoeCanuck (Reply 4):
And we have a winner in the naming sweepstakes...Superjumbo, it is.

Yup . . . .which is a big two fingers to the Whalejet crowd, who are looking a bit foolish now . . .
 
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:02 am

I can see them flying LHR-MIA very easily.
 
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:02 am



Quoting A350 (Reply 12):
Don't they already fly FRA-JFK

I was lucky to book JFK - FRA with SQ, a really great experience. Even though some people say SQ's service has degraded a bit, it was still great from check in to arrival. Load factor was only about 60% in Y, but OK, that was november.
I really hope they keep FRA and only add LHR, there are already so many bad routings through LHR.
 
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:10 am

What a bunch of hypocrites the British leadership are. The British Government were bitching about letting CO, NW, DL, US fly to LHR unless they were allowed cabotage within the USA in return and are under the impression the open skies will be revisited if they don't get their way, but they open up the same routes to SQ?
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:41 am

I flew SQ JFK-AMS-JFK on 747-400 back in Sept/ Dec 1995 so..............they have been doing transatlantic for a while.
 
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:13 am



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 24):
What a bunch of hypocrites the British leadership are. The British Government were bitching about letting CO, NW, DL, US fly to LHR unless they were allowed cabotage within the USA in return and are under the impression the open skies will be revisited if they don't get their way, but they open up the same routes to SQ?

UK has got 7th freedom rights out of SIN in return (i.e. if a UK airline wants they can have a hub in SIN, and fly SIN-SYD, SIN-HKG etc) Fair swap.
 
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:24 am



Quoting HUYfan (Reply 1):
Manchester hub PLEASE!

SIN-MAN-IAD
SIN-MAN-JFK

I don't even know if they have slated MAN for a proving flight, if they have please let me know, I would like to see it sometime. I have watched it fly over but not on the ground.
 
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:37 am



Quoting Col (Reply 17):
It is all well and good that they want to fly from LHR with all the cash there, but without slots no way to put the money bags in the hold!!!

Well, CO, US and DL has just recently showed that it's not impossible to get LHR slots....
 
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:43 am



Quoting A342 (Reply 3):
Doesn't SQ own 49% of VS? Do they really want to compete with them?

Rumor has it, this is about to be ditched.
 
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:47 am

How about a SIN-MAN-LAX/SFO-TPE-SIN // SIN-TPE-LAX/SFO-MAN-SIN? 772ER all the way.
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:07 am



Quoting United Airline (Reply 10):
They already fly JFK-FRA

Correct, as well as heap of freighter routes are already transatlantic.
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:09 am



Quoting Oly720man (Reply 30):
How about a SIN-MAN-LAX/SFO-TPE-SIN // SIN-TPE-LAX/SFO-MAN-SIN? 772ER all the way.

Yeah, what a great idea. Take an airline that focuses on premium travelers and has planes in typically high density, and put them on low-yield, vacation routes from Manchester to California.  Yeah sure

Sorry, but I don't see in anyway how MAN-California on SQ makes sense.
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:38 am

It will be interesting to see whether UA and BD codeshare with SQ. UA and BD already do with each other over the pond.

Quoting Fllcontinental (Reply 22):
I can see them flying LHR-MIA very easily.

I can see SQ NOT flying LHR-MIA at all. Where are the premium passengers going to come from. This is a holiday route with limited premium load to make a business case, IMHO.
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:45 am

Quoting UALMMFlyer (Reply 33):
Quoting Fllcontinental (Reply 22):
I can see them flying LHR-MIA very easily.

I can see SQ NOT flying LHR-MIA at all. Where are the premium passengers going to come from. This is a holiday route with limited premium load to make a business case, IMHO.

While I agree that I can't see SQ flying MIA-LHR, saying this route has "limited premium loads" is simply not true. BA, AA, and VS would beg to differ considering how little trouble they have filling the premium cabins to Miami. British Airways and Virgin Atlantic offer their full premium product on Miami-London, not the reduced holiday product they use on other routes, like Denver and Orlando. BA even flew the Concorde to Miami for seven years, while Miami-Heathrow is consistently AA's single most profitable route from Heathrow on a per-flight basis. London itself is one of the twenty busiest O&D markets from Miami, including domestic cities. If there wasn't healthy premium traffic between Miami and Europe, it's selection of European carriers would look more like, say, Orlando or Vancouver.

[Edited 2007-11-29 02:52:48]
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:30 pm



Quoting Someone83 (Reply 28):
Well, CO, US and DL has just recently showed that it's not impossible to get LHR slots....

And where did they get them from - AF/KL, wanting some competition for BA on Transatlantic, let them hurt a little Big grin

Not sure who will give up slots to SQ to hurt BA.
 
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:40 pm



Quoting Lutfi (Reply 26):
UK has got 7th freedom rights out of SIN in return (i.e. if a UK airline wants they can have a hub in SIN, and fly SIN-SYD, SIN-HKG etc) Fair swap.

Would any UK airline even use that capability? Seems to me like it would be very hard to compete with SQ on its home turf.

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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:54 pm



Quoting Mir (Reply 36):
Would any UK airline even use that capability? Seems to me like it would be very hard to compete with SQ on its home turf.

Quite right, Singaporeans are used to a higher quality!!
 
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:04 pm



Quoting Mir (Reply 36):
Would any UK airline even use that capability? Seems to me like it would be very hard to compete with SQ on its home turf.

Firstly, the reply was made to show that reply 24 was clearly wrong, and which was showing the posters usual blatant bias without factual content.
Secondly, whereas a UK airline might indeed choose not to use the rights, they do have the 7th Freedom capability if they choose to exercise it (wheras the Americans wanted a one-way street)
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Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:06 pm



Quoting Col (Reply 37):
Quite right, Singaporeans are used to a higher quality!!

Then it'll be even funnier seeing American airlines trying to compete with SQ on LHR-JFK LOL!!
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:22 pm



Quoting Lumumba (Reply 14):
They also use to fly Singapour -bru-jfk in the 90 tees.

EWR-AMS- SIN replaced the Brussels stop, there was more demand fro Amsterdam for their service.
 
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Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:48 pm



Quoting AirNZ (Reply 39):
Then it'll be even funnier seeing American airlines trying to compete with SQ on LHR-JFK LOL!!

Five to six flight a day against SQ's one. I doubt AA or BA for that matter will lose much sleep. Frequency usually is king on routes like this.
 
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:56 pm



Quoting Col (Reply 17):
so why should they care if SQ pick up the pieces and show them how a properly run airline does it.

SQ is a hated member of Star Alliance precisely becuase they do tend to go out of the way to fly other members routes. SYD-LAX woudl be a perfect example if they ever did do that.
 
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Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:11 pm



Quoting AirNZ (Reply 38):
Secondly, whereas a UK airline might indeed choose not to use the rights, they do have the 7th Freedom capability if they choose to exercise it (wheras the Americans wanted a one-way street)

I'm not debating the merits of Singapore/UK deal versus those of the US-EU deal - I'm talking about the Singapore/UK deal on its own. SQ has the product to definitely steal some passengers from BA and VS on transatlantics, but I'm not sure the reverse is true at SIN. It seems like Singapore came out the big winner since the UK made concessions, and probably won't use the concessions that Singapore made.

Not that I'm unhappy to see SQ flying US-LHR by any stretch, I just don't quite understand the UK's reasoning in making the treaty.

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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:50 am



Quoting UAL777UK (Reply 41):
Quoting AirNZ (Reply 39):
Then it'll be even funnier seeing American airlines trying to compete with SQ on LHR-JFK LOL!!

Five to six flight a day against SQ's one. I doubt AA or BA for that matter will lose much sleep. Frequency usually is king on routes like this.

Which is probably why SQ often has some of the lowest fares available FRA-JFK-FRA.
 
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:16 am



Quoting Megatop747-412 (Reply 18):
Most of my comments are a little tongue in cheek, I think SQ has already shown their allegience to MAN recently by going from daily, then back to 5 per week, then back daily. Then what an embarrasement when they advertise themselves as the newest Manchester Daily!!!! Love SQ am Gold on them, but those ads were pretty low for them!!

Could you explain more about this for the Yanks out there?

Quoting Woodsboy (Reply 25):
What a bunch of hypocrites the British leadership are. The British Government were bitching about letting CO, NW, DL, US fly to LHR unless they were allowed cabotage within the USA in return and are under the impression the open skies will be revisited if they don't get their way, but they open up the same routes to SQ?

Sorry to be thick-headed, but what do you mean? Do you mean that the British government believes that Open Skies will be revised in the Brits' favor or revoked (which is what everyone means by "revisited") in the event that the USA doesn't permit British cabotage in the USA? If that's so, do you have a source? If it isn't so, could you explain what you mean?

Quoting Oly720man (Reply 30):
Quoting A342 (Reply 3):
Doesn't SQ own 49% of VS? Do they really want to compete with them?


Rumor has it, this is about to be ditched.

You mean, sold at a healthy profit.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 32):
Yeah, what a great idea. Take an airline that focuses on premium travelers and has planes in typically high density, and put them on low-yield, vacation routes from Manchester to California.

You probably mean "typically low density," right? In any case I agree with the point you are making.
 
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:25 am

This topic was just discussed 3 days ago when it was reported in the Telegraph and Forbes.
UK/Singapore Sign "Open Skies"? (by Mariner Nov 23 2007 in Civil Aviation)
 
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:05 am



Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 42):
SQ is a hated member of Star Alliance precisely becuase they do tend to go out of the way to fly other members routes. SYD-LAX woudl be a perfect example if they ever did do that.

Really??!!
SQ has to do the legs via NRT, TPE, ICN or HKG for going to US west coast with their Boeings, just like UA is coming in via NRT, HKG etc. There is no really difference there.
If SQ can start flying LHR-JFK, I would see that as a great improvement for *A, since UA were to weak to maintain that route.
Are not the freedom agreements made to be used?
I dont understand how you can call it "flying other members routes".

AFAIK the *A are very happy to SQ for connections in South East Asia and to Australia and NZ.
LH, SK, LX, OS etc use SQ for their connections here and are satisfied with the service level SQ is offering here.

Skyteam solved the LHR slot problem in a very professional way when KL transferred their slots to NW for new transatlantic routes.
Why can't *A do the same?
 
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:27 am



Quoting Col (Reply 17):
Then what an embarrasement when they advertise themselves as the newest Manchester Daily!!!! Love SQ am Gold on them, but those ads were pretty low for them!!

Welcome to the world of marketing. You can do a university degree in this crap!
 
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RE: SQ Keen To Launch Transatlantic Flights

Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:57 pm



Quoting VC10DC10 (Reply 45):
Could you explain more about this for the Yanks out there?

This was my comment from reply 17. SQ had a daily flight from MAN, then dropped to 5 per week when Airbus screwed up the 380 deliveries. About one year after stopping, they restarted, and had the life size Singapore Girls in T2 at MAN stating that SQ were the latest Manchester daily. This was a little too cheesy for me from my favorite airline, back on them again Sunday. I just expected a little more honesty from them, as I didn't see the girl apologising for the drop in frequency the year before.

Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 42):
SQ is a hated member of Star Alliance precisely becuase they do tend to go out of the way to fly other members routes. SYD-LAX woudl be a perfect example if they ever did do that.

You say they fly other members routes, then show a perfect example which doesn't exist - not sure of the logic in this. Routes I can think of where they compete are Japan to USA - ANA, not sure on others. I also don't see a problem with them offering more services everywhere, it will hopefully make some carriers pick up their standards (UA, AA, US, DL, NW to name a few!!).

Quoting MainMAN (Reply 48):
Welcome to the world of marketing. You can do a university degree in this crap!

Just me, expected a little more from SQ. Firstly, dropping the frequency causing me a couple of headaches having to go to LHR on outbound legs when I routed that way. And then having the nerve to promote it as something fantastic a new daily service. But you are right, marketing is mainly BS, and SQ are just like any other business.

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Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos