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Street Crossing The Runway?

Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:33 am

Hello all

I've just found this picture and notice there's a street crossing the runway for residents to drive to the other side of the town. Am I seeing things or is this for real? I thought it was pretty cool. Are there any other airports have street crossing on the runway?



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RE: Street Crossing The Runway?

Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:05 am

I don't know of any civilian airports, but way back when I was a Boy Scout we took a trip to the Marine Corps bast at Quantico, VA, and I remember one of the roads on the base crossing the runway. At the crossing there were the same sorts of flashing lights and gates you'd see at a railroad crossing. In fact if I remember correctly they had the same sort of crosshatch sign as well, except it read "runway crossing".
 
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RE: Street Crossing The Runway?

Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:09 am

Is traffic control a bit like this? http://hellasga.com/gallery/album10/LGKR_1093112587
 
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RE: Street Crossing The Runway?

Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:22 am

Wynard, Tasmania has a railway line across a runway.

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RE: Street Crossing The Runway?

Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:00 am

Not exactly related to GIB or any runway crossing a road, but at XFW, one of the taxiways crosses a road as well.
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RE: Street Crossing The Runway?

Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:28 am

Gisborne in New Zealand also has a railway that crosses the runway
 
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RE: Street Crossing The Runway?

Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:38 am



Quoting AirCanada014 (Thread starter):
I've just found this picture and notice there's a street crossing the runway for residents to drive to the other side of the town. Am I seeing things or is this for real?

Actually Gibraltar is on one side of the runway and Spain on the other. Whilst there is a lot of cross-border traffic, residents do not usually casually trek across to the "other side of the town".  Smile

In LHR there is also a crossing close to T4. If you're lucky, you'll have a B744 pass in front of you. These days, access is tightly controlled using gates etc. but back in the days before 911 there used to be just a low barrier + flashing lights to warn you of the crossing of an aircraft.
 
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RE: Street Crossing The Runway?

Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:02 am

Many former Swiss Air Force airports in Switzerland have roads across their runways or sometimes taxiways across public roads.
 
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RE: Street Crossing The Runway?

Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:09 am

And in Canada, YLW has a taxiway between Kelowna Flight Craft hangers that crosses the road. Good spot to take a few snapshots of the B757s that cross it regularly such as the IcelandAir 757 there now.
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RE: Street Crossing The Runway?

Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:10 am



Quoting Ncelhr (Reply 6):
In LHR there is also a crossing close to T4. If you're lucky, you'll have a B744 pass in front of you. These days, access is tightly controlled using gates etc. but back in the days before 911 there used to be just a low barrier + flashing lights to warn you of the crossing of an aircraft.

You're thinking of Eastchurch Road, just up from Hatton Cross, right? That crossing hasn't been open for well over a year now. All traffic is routed round the back of the BA maintenance area. When it was open though it was a magnificent sight to see a 744 or others being towed across although it DID cause a lot of traffic problems.
 
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Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:10 am

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RE: Street Crossing The Runway?

Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:01 pm



Quoting Ncelhr (Reply 6):
Actually Gibraltar is on one side of the runway and Spain on the other

The airport and border (customs/immigration) are on the other side of the runway, Spain is after that, a little further back. Assuming relations stay friendly, they plan on building a tunnel under the runway so traffic flow isn't disrupted, and the airport will have one entrance in Gib and the other in Spain.
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RE: Street Crossing The Runway?

Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:28 am



Quoting Lapper (Reply 9):
You're thinking of Eastchurch Road, just up from Hatton Cross, right? That crossing hasn't been open for well over a year now. All traffic is routed round the back of the BA maintenance area. When it was open though it was a magnificent sight to see a 744 or others being towed across although it DID cause a lot of traffic problems.

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RE: Street Crossing The Runway?

Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:44 am

Herron Airport in northern West Virginia has a county road that crosses the runway.

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RE: Street Crossing The Runway?

Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:55 am

Wow! When you thought you've seen everything. Can you imagine your speed through one of those signs and you see a 747 coming in!
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RE: Street Crossing The Runway?

Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:01 am

The only road to the small airport serving Bern (BRN), the capital of Switzerland, crosses the end of the runway although it isn't part of the active runway since there's a displaced threshold. However I believe there are traffic lights requiring vehicles to stop before reaching the runway when aircraft are landing. I haven't been there for a couple of years but that's the way it used to operate. You can see the road below crossing the closest end of the runway.


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RE: Street Crossing The Runway?

Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:31 am



Quoting AirCanada014 (Thread starter):
I've just found this picture and notice there's a street crossing the runway for residents to drive to the other side of the town. Am I seeing things or is this for real? I thought it was pretty cool. Are there any other airports have street crossing on the runway?

On Kodiak Island, the Coast Guard Air Station is connected to the State Airport by a long taxiway that is crossed by a road between the mainside of the Coast Guard Support Center and the balance of the facility including the waterfront, exchange and clubs.
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RE: Street Crossing The Runway?

Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:51 am



Quoting Brenintw (Reply 2):
Is traffic control a bit like this? http://hellasga.com/gallery/album10/...12587

So how are those traffic lights activated? Does ATC have to activate them manually every time they clear an aircraft to takeoff or land?
 
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RE: Street Crossing The Runway?

Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:56 am

Here in ANC there is a street that crosses a live taxi way and some less than sober people have driven out on the runway here...
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RE: Street Crossing The Runway?

Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:58 am



Quoting LTU932 (Reply 4):

LGB had a similar setup IIRC with the MDD facilities.
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RE: Street Crossing The Runway?

Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:19 am



Quoting Halls120 (Reply 17):
On Kodiak Island, the Coast Guard Air Station is connected to the State Airport by a long taxiway that is crossed by a road between the mainside of the Coast Guard Support Center and the balance of the facility including the waterfront, exchange and clubs.

Looks like SAN has a similar setup:
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RE: Street Crossing The Runway?

Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:27 am

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 8):
YLW has a taxiway between Kelowna Flight Craft hangers that crosses the road.

Not quite. It's not a taxiway, but an uncontrolled access strip to the new KFC hangar that does cross the public access road to the airside businesses north of the terminal. Vehicle traffic flow is very light and you may have a plane cross (towed only) every few days at best. That same hangar access strip also crosses a railway line, which is also infrequently used.

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RE: Street Crossing The Runway?

Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:35 am



Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 21):
Looks like SAN has a similar setup:

Technically, it is a taxiway that crosses Harbor Drive.

But in all the years that I have watched traffic at SAN, I have never seen a plane use the taxiway or any airplanes parked at the Coast Guard station. I have only seen the Coast Guard Station use helicopters.
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RE: Street Crossing The Runway?

Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:12 am



Quoting LTU932 (Reply 4):
Not exactly related to GIB or any runway crossing a road, but at XFW, one of the taxiways crosses a road as well.

Not anymore, they build a bew road and thy even took down the dyke. The A380 needs room. The road crossed the taxiway from the runway / assembly factory to the completion/delivery centre.


Heidelberg Army Airfield, which is closed now, had a road/runway crossing.
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RE: Street Crossing The Runway?

Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:29 am



Quoting Eghansen (Reply 23):
Technically, it is a taxiway that crosses Harbor Drive.

But in all the years that I have watched traffic at SAN, I have never seen a plane use the taxiway or any airplanes parked at the Coast Guard station. I have only seen the Coast Guard Station use helicopters.

I haven't seen it lately but maybe, what, in the 80s it wasn't that uncommon to see a Lear or other small CG bizjet land on 27 and taxi back to the gate in the chainlink fence, wait while it was manually opened by a couple of guys who then manually switched the traffic light to stop the Harbor Drive traffic (you could easily tell the taxis that were carrying travellers running late for their departures!) The plane "drove" right across the road to the CG hanger/apron right on the water. The process was usually reversed fairly quickly; I don't think I ever saw a plane remain longer than required to just load or unload its passengers.

It was a funky experience to be stopped at a red light on a major, high-traffic, 4-6 lane divided roadway watching an airplane cross right in front of you!

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RE: Street Crossing The Runway?

Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:11 pm



Quoting Flyboy36y (Reply 10):
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He he ...  Smile

Port Blair Airport (IXZ), Andaman Islands (India), approx 200 km west of Phuket had a funny thing back in 2001; the very short runway was at the end of a valley, and at one end of the runway there was a trunk road - however, the runway and this road were so close, that when planes (two commercial a day..) landed or took off, traffic was interrupted by bars going down, looked exactly like a railroad crossing! Cool to watch, you're kind of expecting a freight train to come by, and suddenly there's your 737 3-4 meters above the ground... great!

Sadly, it's history now... they've expanded the runway, and I think they rerouted the road totally..  Sad

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RE: Street Crossing The Runway?

Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:27 pm

RAF Broize Norton has a similar thing. Traffic for runway 26 is coming in real low.
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RE: Street Crossing The Runway?

Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:07 pm

Been a few years now since I was last there but Wick (WIC) the most northerly airport on the Scottish mainland has (or at least had) a public road running across the main runway.

I seem to recall at least one of the smaller airports in the Phillipines has a public road (and quite a busy one at that) crossing the runway. Can't remember which one but I think it's somewhere in the Visayas.
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Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:15 pm


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