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Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:02 pm

Since nobody has started one, and the webcast is now starting, I figured I'd kick off a "formal" thread discussing the webcast as it is in progress and post-webcast.

[Edited 2007-12-11 07:20:57]
 
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RE: Boeing 787 December 12, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:06 pm

Scott Carson speaking now:


  • Has full confidence in Pat Shanahan. Feels he is working well.
  • 314 787 sales in 2007 YTD.
  • 52 787 customers.
  • 762 orders total.
  • 787 will EIS five years before A350XWB.
  • Full confidence in the technology and the suppliers and supply chain.
  • Systems prototypes have been ground-tested successfully.
  • First flight still planned for late Q1 2008.
  • EIS on schedule.
  • 109 deliveries by December 2009 expected.
 
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RE: Boeing 787 December 12, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:08 pm

so, they say nothing new in reality...
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RE: Boeing 787 December 12, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:11 pm

Scott Shanahan speaking speaking now:


  • Excited to be part of the 787 program.
  • Began review of 787 program when he joined.
  • Has touched all aspects of the program and met with Alenia and Vought. Is heading to Spirit and the Japanese Heavies.
  • Believes the team has executed design and development phases very well.
  • Transition to full-rate production is now the goal.
  • Retired combined airplane development and production team.
  • Working with Vought to get them up to speed.
  • 787-8 design is now 100% complete.
  • Reorganized into three departments:
  • Development - engineering, certification and delivery activities. Led by Mark Janks.
  • Supplier Management - led by Bob Noble who reports to Pat. Operation experts within Boeing have been re-assigned to this group.
  • Third is Final Assembly by Steve Wesby. No fundamental change to his role, but he has new execs with strong operations experience.
  • Daily routine is now aligned to this new schedule.
  • Pat meets daily under the 787 in the morning and again at night in the offices to ensure that the right processes are being followed.
  • Similar reviews are now in place at all the major partners.
  • Believe the entire 787 team is now aligned around these commitments both at Boeing and their partners.
  • Progress is being made every day.
 
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RE: Boeing 787 December 12, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:12 pm

any links to the webcast?

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Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:13 pm

 
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Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:18 pm



Quoting Brendows (Reply 5):

Thanks a bunch!

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RE: Boeing 787 December 12, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:19 pm

I didn't check the settings on my laptop prior and I can't connect to the webcast. So thanks guys for giving the synopsis.
 
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RE: Boeing 787 December 12, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:20 pm



Quoting Stitch (Thread starter):
Boeing 787 December 12, 2007 Webcast Thread

Isn't it the 11th? Or am I just going crazy?
 
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RE: Boeing 787 December 12, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:20 pm


  • 787-8 design is complete.
  • FAA and Boeing have agreed on what is needed to receive Type Certification.
  • Type certificate should have no problems.
  • CFRP Component testing is 80% complete.
  • Horizontal stabilizer passed design-limit load test.
  • 90% of software (or was it components?) are first-flight-ready.
  • Software is being tested.
  • Weight reduction continues. They will soon be able to weigh the flight-test plane to validate weight testing tools.


ZA001 Update


  • Insulation blankets being installed.
  • Fasteners and parts are arriving faster and faster.
  • Power-On set for end of January 2008 and they are on track to meet it.
  • Production schedule will be more predictable once Power-On is achieved.
  • Flight-control tests will occur after Power-On.
  • Flight control software is ready for Power-On. All 92 systems are ready.


ZA997 Update


  • All sections have arrived.
  • Wing-body join completed.
  • Parts are much more
  • Fasteners and parts are arriving faster and faster.
  • Power-On set for end of January 2008 and they are on track to meet it.
  • Production schedule will be more predictable once Power-On is achieved.
  • Flight-control tests will occur after Power-On.
  • Flight control software is ready for Power-On. All 92 systems are ready.


Other Planes


  • Assembly for ZA002 here by the end of month.
  • ZA003-ZA006 parts by end of January.
  • Both engine families will be ready by flight test.
  • Production rate increases planned to meet 109 by 2009 goal.
  • Structured reviews with partners. Lean manufacturing. Detailed method studies to ensure factory sequence is optimized.
  • Have not found any fundamental flaws in production system design.
  • ZA007 is under production.
  • Alenia is working on ZA014 parts.


Other Data


  • They now know travel work expected and this will continue to decrease.
  • Simulators and other ancillaries are expected to be delivered on time to support EIS.
  • New issues continue to appear daily, but they are being addressed daily.
 
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RE: Boeing 787 December 12, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:21 pm

Quoting Pilotboi (Reply 8):
Or am I just going crazy?

You are going crazy

Nah, just kidding Check the date on the top of your post:

Quote:
posted Tue Dec 11 2007


Thanks for the updates in text form Stitch

[Edited 2007-12-11 07:22:33]

[Edited 2007-12-11 07:23:02]
 
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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:28 pm

Questions And Answers - Part I

Q - (Credit Suisse) Are you endorsing the schedule, Pat?
A - I am committed to the schedule.

Q - (Credit Suisse) Biggest constraint?
A - Travel work. We're making great progress knocking it down.

Q - What were the surprises you experienced when you joined the program?
A - No real surprises, but I now appreciate the difficulty of working off the travel work. The original "brute force" approach to address them was not as effective as the new program which identifies what is needed and tracks that need until it is filled. The big problems have been solved. It is the small details that continue to annoy them.

Q - (Dominic Gates) Have any other planes had fuselage-mating issues like ZA001?
A - No. All subsequent barrels and assemblies are mating fine. All joints are great.

Q - (Heidi Wood Morgan Stanley) - What production rates per quarter through 2009? 109 requires six per month from EIS.
A - Refuses to give a direct answer, but he says that the capital equipment and automation investment will ensure they can make 109 by 2009.
 
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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:35 pm

Questions And Answers - Part II

Q - (Doug Harnet) How do you move from flight test production to deliveries?
A - We'll know within two months how well we are moving to that. I spend lots of time ensuring resources are assigned to each segment (static test, flight test, production) as needed at the right time. System installation involves incorporating the changes found on ZA001 to the rest of the frames.


Q - (James Gonzolez - Bloomberg News) Are the primary suppliers doing fine with major structural pieces? How is the flight software?
A - Yes they are. He is very impressed with how the suppliers are configured to produce these parts and how the lean production system is working. They'd like to see more fasteners in the wings and the doors attached, but that is driven by lack of fastener availability and not any production/design issues and fastener availability is improving.
Flight software and hardware for flight test is now in the simulator so there are no surprises at this time in that department. Honeywell has fixed all the functionality issues.

Q - (Glen Lundsford - WSJ) How are you ensuring the suppliers are providing the right information, and not what they think you want to hear?
A - Frank, eyeball to eyeball discussions with them in person and via video conference. They walk through each plane and list what they have and what they need to complete that part.
 
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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:43 pm

Q&A - Part III

Q - (Ron Epstein with Meryll-Lynch) Boeing and FAA have come to terms on flight certification. Are there any open questions on waivers or such like on the 737NG?
A - No waivers needed. Boeing and the FAA have agreed on everything. Next step is to show compliance with those steps.

Q - What is the highest risk portion of the test?
A - (Scott Carson) - Rudder clearance (?)

Q - (Mike Neecham with AW&ST) Was this a people problem or process problem to fail to meet the original plan?
A - More a process problem then a people problem.

Q - Have to scramble with paper docs. Is that corrected?
A - It is clearing up, but there is still some "paper chasing" being done, but I have my arms around it. Materials management is now centralized. Fastener process is also consolidated under folks who have lots of operational experience in this area. Driving a single database of requirements across the entire 787 program inside Boeing and out to the partners. Can now grab fasteners from partners to direct to their suppliers.

[Edited 2007-12-11 07:43:37]
 
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Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:50 pm

Q&A - Part IV


Q (Steve Binder of Bears-Sterns) - Touch on what metrics used to measure progress on systems and suppliers to meet the production rate increases.
A - Discussion with partners starts with a current assessment of their ability to meet the current and planned production rates. There are about nine metrics looked at and then a separate group audits that. Next, they look at the current performance on what they have delivered and are working on - normal operational metrics. This creates a "flywheel effect" where everyone is aligned on the program risks.

Q - How is the 747-8I production schedule being affected by personnel assigned to the 787?
A - (Scott Carson) Have worked very hard to ensure that the key production metrics on the 747-8 are on schedule even with engineers being moved to the 787. The 747-8 is fully-staffed and on track for late 2009.

Q (Joe Nadel from JP Morgan) - How are negotiations with suppliers on cash and component pricing going?
A - These negotiations have been lengthy and fair. We all want to get them solved sooner rather then later. We will incorporate first flight into those discussions and we feel we will get to closure and everyone will make a nice profit.

Q - What remains on the 787-8 in terms of design?
A - Customer-unique features. Manufacturing corrections. Weight-improvement (a bit more needs to be removed).

Q (George Shapiro from Citigroup) - What have you learned to prevent additional delays?
A - (Scott Carson) We learned how much travel work really existed and it was more then we expected and had planned for. Also, some of the processes in place at Everett to fix them were not strong enough. Pat has identified the weak spots and is working very successfully on addressing them. Risks remain, but Pat is really identifying them and addressing them.
 
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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:57 pm

Thanks for the very speedy and accurate reporting and updating -very precious input from Stitch !!
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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:02 pm

Q&A - Part V

Q (Molly McMillan from Wichita Eagle) - Does tooling need to be improved as the suppliers move to the planned production rate?
A - Not an issue. It will handle it.

Q - How is Spirit progressing on Section 41 for ZA002 and beyond?
A - They are in really good shape in ensuring follow-on Section 41s are wired. ZA002's is now being wired right now so travel work will be much less then on ZA001. They are also advising Boeing on finishing wiring ZA001's Section 41 in Everett. Very happy with their work.

Q (The Cowling Company) - You say weight reduction and design changes are still an issue. Suppliers say integration of these design changes are the biggest stumbling block to reach 109 to 2009. They are at 1.5 per month now and will need to be a 7 a month to meet the 109 in 2009 target.

A - There are compulsory changes that need to be made to deliver the plane. Our work is to identify them and get them into the supplier production process ASAP to help them stabilize their increases. We are block-pointing engineering changes to help lessen the impact, but his happens on every commercial plane program and is not unique to the 787. They have moved all changes to one team instead of the original 35, so less changes are being sent and they are being sent in a way to maximize how quickly they can incorporate those changes into the production process.

Q (James Wallace from Seattle PI) - Were you displeased with Mike B. dissing the suppliers, Scott?
A - Neither pleased nor displeased.

Q (Guy Norris from AW) - When do you expect production to be going smoothly in terms of line number? When do you expect to define the 787-9, especially in terms of weight?

A - No specific line number. That will improve as time goes on. Working on their rate of improvement rather then a hard number. The 787-9 definition will be known once the 787-8 is in flight-test and it will be the better for it.

Q (Joe Campbell from Leehman Brothers) - What can we expect between EIS and the 109th delivery?
A (Scott) - ZA001 through ZA006 will be in the air by Q3. ZA007 is due in March.

End of Questions and Answers.
 
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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:03 pm

Did anyone say how much more weight they need to get out of the 788?
 
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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:04 pm



Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 15):
Thanks for the very speedy and accurate reporting and updating -very precious input from Stitch !!
You deserve a loud applause ...!

I agree... checkmark ..

Thanks Stitch.. Smile

It sounds like things are going according to plan now and there aren't any new delays which have crept up (to the dismay of a few here on A.net).... relieved 
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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:06 pm

Conference Call Highlights


  • 314 787s have been sold so far this year. This brings the current firm total to 762 across 52 customers.
  • The design of the 787-8 is completed. The only remaining work is customer-specfific and some manufacturing/assembly changes as ZA001 is being built.
  • Component quality is excellent. No "out-of-round" or joint issues.
  • The weight is still an issue, but continues to come down. No hard data on how much needs to be or is desired to be trimmed.
  • Power-On, First Flight, and delivery of ZA007 to NH are all still expected to happen on schedule.
  • Boeing continues to expect to deliver 109 frames through the end of 2009 and believes the suppliers are proving themselves up to the task.
  • The 787 program has been re-structured into three teams to tackle Development, Supplier Management, and Final Assembly. All three teams are performing well.
  • Boeing and the FAA have agreed to the entire Type Certification program for the 787. So once Boeing meets them, the 787 will receive her FAA Type Certificate.
  • Production on ZA001 is continuing and accelerating as more fasteners and parts arrive daily.
  • ZA997 and ZA998 are progressing well and should be ready by month-end to be moved to their testing bays. Most parts have arrived for them.
  • ZA002 is proceeding well and travel work on both should be significantly less then on ZA001. Assembly is expected to start by year's end.
  • The horizontal stabilizer has passed it's load-limit test.
  • All flight-control software and hardware is complete and actively being tested.
  • ZA002 through ZA007 are under construction.
  • Alenia has parts through ZA014 under construction.
  • The 747-8 program is fully-staffed and is tracking to plan to take to the skies in 2009.
    [/list

    All in all, it looks very good from where I am sitting (across the street from the factory).

    [Edited 2007-12-11 08:20:24]
 
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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:07 pm

It was interesting to listen to the program update, they sound pretty confident when it comes to the program partners and that they can achieve the goal of 109 planes by the end of 2009. And Pat's answer to the question about the current weight of the 787 was pretty amusing  Smile
 
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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:08 pm

Thanks Stitch great update!! How'd you type so fast?
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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:09 pm



Quoting LY777 (Reply 2):
so, they say nothing new in reality...

???

Confirmation that the new schedule wasn't just some made up thing, that it actually works.

Many more details on progress and future work, and remaining obstacles.

Seems like "something new" to me. Today's conference call was incredible news for the 787 program, as it confirms that Boeing is assuring everyone that they will be "caught up" by the end of 2009, meaning no 18-24 month delays rippling through the program for years to come. By the end of 2009, no delivery will have a delay of more than a week or two, which is contractually meaningless.

They also confirm that the 748 is not delayed. I would of course add: "at this time." One never knows what the future brings.  Wink
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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:10 pm



Quoting Stitch (Reply 16):
Q (Joe Campbell from Leehman Brothers) - What can we expect between EIS and the 109th delivery?
A (Scott) - ZA001 through ZA006 will be in the air by Q3. ZA007 is due in March.

I think LN 2- LN 6 will be in the air by Q2 not Q3 and LN 7 will be out the door by end of Q1. Correct me if I'm worng.
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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:18 pm



Quoting NYC777 (Reply 23):
I think LN 2- LN 6 will be in the air by Q2 not Q3 and LN 7 will be out the door by end of Q1. Correct me if I'm worng.

Scott was hard to hear and a bit broken-up, so I might have gotten it wrong.
 
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Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:22 pm



Quoting Brendows (Reply 20):
It was interesting to listen to the program update, they sound pretty confident when it comes to the program partners and that they can achieve the goal of 109 planes by the end of 2009. And Pat's answer to the question about the current weight of the 787 was pretty amusing

What was it???? Really want to know...

Many thanks Stitch.
 
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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:23 pm



Quoting Justloveplanes (Reply 25):
What was it???? Really want to know...

Q - "How much weight do you need to remove?"
A - "A bit more."
 
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Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:35 pm



Quoting Stitch (Reply 26):
Q - "How much weight do you need to remove?"
A - "A bit more."

the first 6-8 will be heavy, not doubt. it will be interesting how much they can squeeze out of it afterward, and if any of those improvements are "replaceable" parts that can be incorporated into the earliest birds d
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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:42 pm

I think they said that LN 7 will be the first one where it will be at the required weight.
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Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:49 pm



Quoting Stitch (Reply 9):
FAA and Boeing have agreed on what is needed to receive Type Certification.

What about EASA???
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Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:53 pm



Quoting NYC777 (Reply 28):
I think they said that LN 7 will be the first one where it will be at the required weight.

That's why I said the first 6-8. I have a hunch the 9th or even 10th might be a little lighter than the 7th, depending on how everything progresses.
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Quoting Stitch (Reply 26):

Hey buddy, just a quick thank you for all the info here.  bigthumbsup 

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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:07 pm



Quoting Teme82 (Reply 29):
What about EASA?

Nobody asked about EASA or the JAA. I know both will accept the FAA certificate, but they may have additional constraints on it (as EASA did for the 777 ETOPS and the JAA will for the 787).
 
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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:09 pm

Here's some more on the conference call.

Just that we are all clear:

Boeing is saying first delivery is November - December 2008 not May 2008. They made that very clear in October when they announed the 6 month delay. The first delivery schedule was reiterated today at the conference call.

http://fleetbuzz.wordpress.com/2007/12/11/boeing-787-update/
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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:16 pm



Quoting Stitch (Reply 37):
I know both will accept the FAA certificate, but they may have additional constraints on it (as EASA did for the 777 ETOPS and the JAA will for the 787)

Yeah and I think that can cause some problems for 787 program. We all know the EU vs. US battle in WTO about A & B subsidies or what ever they are.  duck 

Anyway I do hope that 787 will fly safely around the world.  Smile
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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:18 pm

Check out the picture from Boeing of the full 787 assembly line:

http://boeingmedia.com/imageDetail.c...ease&CFID=5457985&CFTOKEN=44419140
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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:19 pm

Great news - I'm glad they're confident in the new schedule. Having the design of the 788 100% complete must be a nice milestone.
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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:19 pm

Boeing Picture of the 787 Factory Floor Yesterday:
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/fl...87-factory-floor-december-200.html
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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:38 pm



Quoting Teme82 (Reply 39):
Yeah and I think that can cause some problems for 787 program.

In case you are not joking, I tend to think it will not, if for no other reason then if EASA complicates the 787's EU certification out of pettiness, the FAA will return the favor when it comes to the A350XWB. And I don't believe either agency is that petty.  no 
 
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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:42 pm

Just curious.... Anyone out there surprised by anything in the webcast?

Myself:
Availability of fasteners still are an issue. I obviously don't understand the entire dynamics behind this issue. Is it the lack of raw material or the suppliers were not expecting to have to produce as many as needed? Anyone?

Other than that, pretty much as I would expect.

I would just like to say, in regards to global sourcing. Obviously Boeing didn't truly realize how proficient they are at producing A/C. (The entire process) Apparently their partners were not quite as prepared for the demands of producing sections and or parts for these aircraft. I'm sure Airbus has experienced this to a certain degree with the A380 and will have to learn and secede in sourcing of the A350.

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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:56 pm

Its nice to see 3 787s on the production floor. Even if one was already built and the other 2 are slowly progressing along. At least it looks like an assembly line.

Which one of those an the factory floor is for static testing, and which one of thoses 787s will fly?
 
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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:59 pm



Quoting CP744 (Reply 44):
Availability of fasteners still are an issue. I obviously don't understand the entire dynamics behind this issue. Is it the lack of raw material or the suppliers were not expecting to have to produce as many as needed? Anyone?

Part of this is due to Boeing continuing to tweak the fastener design late in the process, part is due to global availability of raw materials (other countries increasing consumption of raw materials), and part is due to the supplier Alcoa, its market dominance in this area means that there are no other sources to go to and therefore it leverages great control.

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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:09 pm



Quoting Sh0rtybr0wn (Reply 45):
Which one of those an the factory floor is for static testing, and which one of thoses 787s will fly?

The one on the left is the first flying test aircraft. The one in the middle is the static test aircraft and the one on the right is fatigue test aircraft.
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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

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Quoting CP744 (Reply 44):
Just curious.... Anyone out there surprised by anything in the webcast?

I was surprised about how far they've progressed and how that progression reinforces their belief they can meet their targets.
 
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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:07 pm

Very impressive updates and fast typer. Awesome, many thanks.
 
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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:15 pm



Quoting NYC777 (Reply 47):
The one on the left is the first flying test aircraft. The one in the middle is the static test aircraft and the one on the right is fatigue test aircraft.

Ooops NYC... the other left, and right.  Wink
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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:18 pm

I wasn't able to listen to it, but did anyone say or ask about the potential of the 787-10?
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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:20 pm

Quoting JetBlueGuy2006 (Reply 51):
I wasn't able to listen to it, but did anyone say or ask about the potential of the 787-10?

Sadly, there were no questions about the -10, nor any comments from Pat or Scott about it.

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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:28 pm



Quoting Beech19 (Reply 50):
Quoting NYC777 (Reply 47):
The one on the left is the first flying test aircraft. The one in the middle is the static test aircraft and the one on the right is fatigue test aircraft.

Ooops NYC... the other left, and right.

Heh,heh I stand corrected!
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RE: Boeing 787 December 11, 2007 Webcast Thread

Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:49 pm

Stitch, have you considered going into journalism?  Wink Great job!

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