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The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:05 pm

Aviation Update for North Carolina, United States of America
Version 4.0
Approved December 14, 2007

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Summaries from the last Thread...

Raleigh-Durham International Airport (RDU)
*New Routes = CUN (DL), FLL (B6/WN), MCO (FL)
*Route changes = LAX paused Jan - Mar (DL)
*Construction = Terminal C ongoing
*Other = Restaurants announced
*Other = Medical Air Group moving from Horace Williams in Chapel Hill to RDU with a $16 Million hangar
*Other = Southern Jet sold to Tac Air

Charlotte Douglas International Airport (CLT)
*New Route = Bogota (US)
*Construction = Terminal E expansion of +6 gates
*Construction = 4000 space parking deck
*Construction = $4 Million hangar for Mesa
*Construction = $2.5 Million Corporate Hangar
*Construction = 25 international terminal gate addition
*Construction = New Charter Terminal converted from Old Corporate Aviation Terminal
*Other = 5K Run held November 10

Piedmont Triangle International Airport (GSO)
*New Routes = CLE (CO), GFP (SX), BUR (SX), St Augustine (SX), Punta Gorda (SX), FLL (SX), SWF (SX), Portsmouth (SX), BDL (SX)
*Construction = FedEx complex ongoing
*Construction = Skybus Maintenance Facility

Asheville Regional Airport (AVL)
*Construction = Terminal ongoing

Wilmington International Airport (ILM)
*Route changes = PHL upgraded
*Construction = New 13,500 international arrivals facility

Craven County Regional Airport (EWN)
*Route changes = 40 to 50 seat RJ to ATL (DL)
*Construction = General Aviation Terminal

Other NC Airports
*Other = USDOT awarded Small Community Grant award to NC Consortium for on demand taxi service

That's all I got for now.. Hope this helps start the thread!
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:11 pm

Now, new news for RDU as of today..

The potential spinoff of American Eagle could spell trouble for RDU...

The potenial lost service = CMH, BDL, EWR, XNA, JAX, SDF, and MCI

This due to AA contract that subsidiaries only allowed to fly to/from hubs. There is potential a renegotiation could allow the routes to stay or Eagle could find a buyer that would keep the routes..

See article from the News & Observer.

Eagle currently has 49 flights to 12 destinations from RDU. It could drop to potentially 5 destinations and 24 flights.
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:32 pm

SX goes to GPT not GFP. And at GSO we get all the heavy equipment for MX. There are 2 RG 763's and an OS 763 last I saw.
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:49 pm

I just love riding out of AVL in an ATR!
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:06 am



Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 1):

This due to AA contract that subsidiaries only allowed to fly to/from hubs. There is potential a renegotiation could allow the routes to stay or Eagle could find a buyer that would keep the routes..

Subsidiaries must fly routes NOT involving hubs. Anyone can fly routes to and from hubs (come see us in STL some time...).
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:12 am



Quoting ERJ170 (Thread starter):
Aviation Update for North Carolina, United States of America
Version 4.0
Approved December 14, 2007

Thank you, ERJ170, for starting the new thread. Hopefully this one will be just as insightful as the previous ones have. It certainly should get interesting with the AE buyout!

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 3):
I just love riding out of AVL in an ATR!

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Isn't it a blast? The ATR climbs like a fiend out of AVL to clear the mountains. Lots of fun.
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:36 am

SX will do GSO to CEF, not BDL. Also, the Hondajet manufacturing facility is going up quickly. The new runway is moving along nicely as well. Here is a link of some construction pics:

https://www.flyfrompti.com/gee/doc/9_25_07_board_meeting.pdf
 
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:30 am



Quoting UncGSO (Reply 6):
Also, the Hondajet manufacturing facility is going up quickly.

Crap, beat me to it.. I for one am extremely excited about the HondaJet factory going up. I think it is such a unique and awesome bird that will hopefully be very successful and allow Honda to possibly enter the large bizjet / RJ market sometime in the future. Also, Honda's aircraft division headquarters will also be in GSO.

Does anyone know if UA will be bringing in their widebodies to Timco to get the new J interiors installed? I know many carriers bring in their widebodies for service there ( AZ, Maxjet, UA, among others come to mind )
 
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:30 pm

Anyone wanna show their airport websites? E170 maybe you can list them all. ILM's is www.flyilm.com.
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:01 pm

GSO has about the worst design of any medium-sized airport I have ever seen

http://flyfrompti.com/
 
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:31 pm

Actually Hondajet will be corp headquartered in Burlington, while the plane will be at PTI.
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:38 pm



Quoting Gsoflyer (Reply 9):
GSO has about the worst design of any medium-sized airport I have ever seen

http://flyfrompti.com/

You mean, worst designed website?
 
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:40 pm



Quoting ERAUgrad02 (Reply 8):
ILM's is www.flyilm.com.

Except without the extra period.  Wink

AVL's is www.flyavl.com
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:42 pm

Does anyone have an airport diagram of what GSO will look like when the construction projects (Honda, Skybus, Fedex, new runway) are complete?
 
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:43 pm



Quoting ERJ170 (Thread starter):


Other NC Airports
*Other = USDOT awarded Small Community Grant award to NC Consortium for on demand taxi service

The biggest waste of tax dollars I've ever seen is a government subsidized Air Taxi.
 
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:45 pm



Quoting ERJ170 (Thread starter):
Wilmington International Airport (ILM)
*Route changes = PHL upgraded
*Construction = New 13,500 international arrivals facility

International arrivals at ILM? What for?
 
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:43 pm



Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 15):
International arrivals at ILM? What for?

International arrivals meaning passengers who have connected (such as in ATL, NYC, DTW, etc), but originated internationally.
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:55 pm



Quoting DeltaAVL (Reply 16):

International arrivals meaning passengers who have connected (such as in ATL, NYC, DTW, etc), but originated internationally.

How does that cause you to need an int'l arrival facility? They'd be cleared in (insert hub here) where they connected here in the states.

There can't be that much int'l GA at ILM.
 
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:08 pm



Quoting DeltaAVL (Reply 16):
International arrivals meaning passengers who have connected (such as in ATL, NYC, DTW, etc), but originated internationally.

They get cleared at the hub they connect in. Maybe ILM has something planned that we dont know about.
 
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:05 am



Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 18):

They get cleared at the hub they connect in. Maybe ILM has something planned that we dont know about.

Fly First Class, perhaps? They were planning to fly LGW-BDA-ILM... do they even have a website anymore?
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:11 am



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 19):

Fly First Class, perhaps? They were planning to fly LGW-BDA-ILM... do they even have a website anymore?

Even so, BDA pre-clears. It arrives as a domestic flight.

Quoting ERJ170 (Thread starter):
*Route changes = LAX paused Jan - Mar (DL)

Schedule past March has not been finalized, and RDU-LAX, as well as CMH-LAX, might be discontinued. Considering it does poorly, it wouldn't shock me. Other LAX trans-cons like FLL and BDL are also in jeopardy.

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 14):


Quoting ERJ170 (Thread starter):


Other NC Airports
*Other = USDOT awarded Small Community Grant award to NC Consortium for on demand taxi service

The biggest waste of tax dollars I've ever seen is a government subsidized Air Taxi.

Agreed. What a stupid idea.
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:19 am



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 20):
Even so, BDA pre-clears. It arrives as a domestic flight.

I don't think so. Neither PR nor CX clears in YVR (on their LAS and JFK services).
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:27 am



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 21):

I don't think so. Neither PR nor CX clears in YVR (on their LAS and JFK services).

As that would require moving the planes from international gates to trans-border gates at YVR. I don't believe that would be an issue at BDA.
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Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:58 am



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 22):

As that would require moving the planes from international gates to trans-border gates at YVR. I don't believe that would be an issue at BDA.

I don't think you're thinking this through. The aircraft could arrive at a transborder gate, as everyone clears the same Canadian customs (in fact, I believe YVR is the only Canadian airport where you can transit from the U.S. to an international flight without entering Canada).
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:04 am



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 23):
I don't think you're thinking this through. The aircraft could arrive at a transborder gate, as everyone clears the same Canadian customs (in fact, I believe YVR is the only Canadian airport where you can transit from the U.S. to an international flight without entering Canada).

I don't recall how YVR is set-up exactly, but most major Canadian airports (and Nassau, as well) have terminals that are exclusive for trans-border flights to and form the United States, that allow them to pre-clear.
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:11 am



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 24):
I don't recall how YVR is set-up exactly, but most major Canadian airports (and Nassau, as well) have terminals that are exclusive for trans-border flights to and form the United States, that allow them to pre-clear.

I'm pretty sure D (international) and E (transborder) dump into 1 arrivals area... it's not the best map, but see http://www.yvr.ca/guide/maps/index.asp?mapid=itb2

I know that the normal rule is that those arriving the US clear at the first point of entry regardless. I wonder if there's some sort of regulation about preclearance points.
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Sun Dec 16, 2007 5:30 am



Quoting Flyf15 (Reply 13):
Does anyone have an airport diagram of what GSO will look like when the construction projects (Honda, Skybus, Fedex, new runway) are complete?

I wish, it seems that things change so much here lately.

There is some major constructions going on near the Air National Guard and ComAir facilities. I have no clue what is going here, but it is too small to be a hanger.

The HondaJet facility is coming up fast and is MUCH bigger than I thought it would be. You used to be able to see across the runway to the Cargo Facility from West Friendly Ave, not anymore.

I have no idea where the Skybus Maintenance Facility will go. I initially thought there were going to take over the old Piedmont/US Airways hanger as it looked like Timco wasn't using it anymore, but lately, Timco has been using it. So, again, no clue. The FedEx facility is much bigger than I thought it would be too.

Crosswind runway lengthening seems to have stalled. I thought they were extending it out to near NC 68/Eastchester Dr, but may be not the case anymore. I thought it was being lengthened for Tradewinds and other cargo heavies to use on heavy wind days.

I am also curious to know where the group of Skybus gates will be. Since I always fly on Star Alliance, I am never in the North Terminal.

Also, living in High Point, I absolutely hate the new entrance. You can tell Greensboro is the primary city now since the new entrance adds about 10 minutes if you are coming from anywhere BUT Greensboro. Ugh.

Someone told me a new tower may be built. Not sure if that is true or not.

Also to the NC Aviation thread, perhaps the new HondaJet Engine Facility and runway lengthening should be added for BUY.
 
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:50 am

Why does JetBlue serve RDU with E90s?
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:22 am



Quoting Gsoflyer (Reply 26):

I am also curious to know where the group of Skybus gates will be.

The News&Record said it would be a ground-level concourse built north of the current North Concourse.
 
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:39 am



Quoting Uncgso (Reply 28):

Quoting Gsoflyer (Reply 26):

I am also curious to know where the group of Skybus gates will be.

The News&Record said it would be a ground-level concourse built north of the current North Concourse.

Until SX goes out of business. Sorry but it is what it is.
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:51 pm



Quoting ThegreatRDU (Reply 27):
Why does JetBlue serve RDU with E90s?

Because they don't need any more capacity on the routes. RDU-NYC is quite saturated.
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:46 pm



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 20):
RDU-LAX, as well as CMH-LAX, might be discontinued.

Maybe true. Time will tell. For what it's worth, the DL management (not at RDU station but in ATL) stated that the yield they are getting out of RDU is far exceeding expectations even if the loads were average. But that was last month. Who knows what they will really do.
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:57 pm

Wasnt RDU at one point one of DL's top ten highest yielding stations thanks to all of the business traffic? I wonder what the top ten are right now?!
 
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:15 pm



Quoting Uncgso (Reply 28):
The News&Record said it would be a ground-level concourse built north of the current North Concourse.

That's the concourse to be built later if Skybus sticks around. Slated for 3-5 years from now.

I am talking about all their gates presently. Heard they have 4.

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 29):
Until SX goes out of business. Sorry but it is what it is.

By that mentality, all the airlines should be out of business in the US. Skybus isn't going anywhere for a while at least.
 
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:37 am

ILM gets alot of Business Jets that clear customs here. We get alot of G5's and Citation X's. People like Oprah, Britney Spears, etc use ILM a lot because clearance is much quicker. GE which moved its' HDQ here last year is rumored to be basing some larger business jets here in the near future. ILM wants to be able to clear planes that seat up to 100 pax as they can only handle jets up to 25 pax. There are many other International airports that dont get scheduled service. DAB and MLB to name a few. ILM cleared something like 8,000 pax this year so far.

Yes ILM's website is www.flyilm.com w/o the other period. Thx AVL...
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:08 am



Quoting Gsoflyer (Reply 33):

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 29):
Until SX goes out of business. Sorry but it is what it is.

By that mentality, all the airlines should be out of business in the US. Skybus isn't going anywhere for a while at least.

I wouldn't be to sure. GSO is stupid for investing in facilities for an airline with a future that, at this point, can't be determined. You are using a very poor analogy.

The analogy should be that, "by that mentality, all start-up airlines should be out of business." And it's almost true. Very few start-ups are successful, and there are no tell tale signs that Skybus won't follow that path.
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Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:13 am



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 35):
I wouldn't be to sure. GSO is stupid for investing in facilities for an airline with a future that, at this point, can't be determined. You are using a very poor analogy.

The analogy should be that, "by that mentality, all start-up airlines should be out of business." And it's almost true. Very few start-ups are successful, and there are no tell tale signs that Skybus won't follow that path.

Do you ever bother to read, or do you just intentionally post in every thread to be as negative as possible. I suggest that if you are going to comment on something, you at least read and be knowledgeable about it. After all, it was you that said Skybus wouldn't make it out of the summer. And they did. You said routes like GSO to CMH wouldn't make money, and they do.

So in review:
GSO isn't building anything for Skybus until they meet certain requirements in passenger loads and flights per day.
GSO is giving every airlines incentives for new service, this isn't isolated to Skybus.
GSO did give Skybus ann advertising incentives package, and that is all they got for now, and that really wasn't that big.

So, in review so that you might remember for next time and stop making these types of negative comments and perhaps so you can stop being wrong all the time, GSO gave Skybus very little on the front end. Everything hinges on numbers over a 3-5 year period.

And seeing that you are using a Swedish flag, it says you are from Sweden and I know you claim to be living in Chicago, I don't understand why you feel you have to comment on Skybus and GSO every time it comes up.
 
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Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:39 am



Quoting Gsoflyer (Reply 36):
You said routes like GSO to CMH wouldn't make money, and they do.

You don't have proof of that.
 
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Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:41 am

A little update from CLT

They will be doing a small $1M renovation of the Baggage Claim. Replacing the carpet (which is only a few years old) with a hard surface (terrazo?) and putting in new lighting. This project is due to start in 1Q08.

Next up they will be putting in $800K worth of flat panels for the Flight Information Displays in 3Q08 (finally!) replacing all the old CRT screens.

Also in a CBJ article I came across a pricetag for the Ticketing Hall Expansion/Renovation: $150M and about 3 years of construction to complete.

Thats it for now...
 
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:44 am



Quoting Cltguy (Reply 38):
Next up they will be putting in $800K worth of flat panels for the Flight Information Displays in 3Q08 (finally!) replacing all the old CRT screens.

OMG.. thank the LORD! That is soo needed.. those CRT screens.. I wish US would switch their gate displays to LCD panels too.. I do like the CLT gate numbers..
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Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:47 am



Quoting Cltguy (Reply 38):

Also in a CBJ article I came across a pricetag for the Ticketing Hall Expansion/Renovation: $150M and about 3 years of construction to complete.

What are they doing upstairs? Ticketing seems to work fairly well now (at least as compared to baggage claim).

Quoting Cltguy (Reply 38):
They will be doing a small $1M renovation of the Baggage Claim. Replacing the carpet (which is only a few years old) with a hard surface (terrazo?) and putting in new lighting. This project is due to start in 1Q08.

IMO, the biggest thing they can do to improve baggage claim would be to tell people on which carousel their luggage will be arriving straightaway... the guessing game within Zone B or Zone C gets real old real fast.
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:50 pm



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 40):
What are they doing upstairs? Ticketing seems to work fairly well now (at least as compared to baggage claim).

The ticketing hall is too narrow. They will be expanding it by pushing the building 30 ft out towards the roadway. They will also be relocating the roadway and rebuilding the parking decks. Baggage Claim will also be expanded during this project.

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 40):
IMO, the biggest thing they can do to improve baggage claim would be to tell people on which carousel their luggage will be arriving straightaway... the guessing game within Zone B or Zone C gets real old real fast.

Yes baggage claim does seem to be a clusterphuck at CLT. The general rule of thumb is if you arrived in Concourse B then your baggage will be in Zone B...Concourse A means Zone A and so on and so forth. My other tip is to first check the Information Displays along the Landside wall next to the Rental Car Counters. That will tell you exactly which carosel your luggage will be on and the info is usually on there before it shows up on the Red LED signs on the airside wall. Even after doing all that it is quite possible that your luggage will show up on an entirely different carrosel. I have had that happen and I sent in a complaint letter to US Airways and got a $50 flight coupon.
 
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Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:01 pm



Quoting Cltguy (Reply 41):

The ticketing hall is too narrow. They will be expanding it by pushing the building 30 ft out towards the roadway. They will also be relocating the roadway and rebuilding the parking decks. Baggage Claim will also be expanded during this project.

Oh, that project... definitely another plus. CLT has a very healthy attitude toward building projects (unlike so many other airports).
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Tue Dec 18, 2007 4:20 am



Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 37):
You don't have proof of that.

When a Skybus official says for newspapers that GSO-CMH is their most profitable route, that says that GSO-CMH makes a profit. Profit means it makes money whether it is $1 in the black or $100 per person in the black.
 
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Tue Dec 18, 2007 4:25 am



Quoting Gsoflyer (Reply 43):

When a Skybus official says for newspapers that GSO-CMH is their most profitable route, that says that GSO-CMH makes a profit. Profit means it makes money whether it is $1 in the black or $100 per person in the black.

Nope. You can have negative profit. "Most profitable route" could just as easily mean "the route that loses the least amount of money," because it is a good way to put a spin on something, and not lie.

I'm not saying that GSO-CMH doesn't make a profit, and it probably does because I'm sure there are some routes that Skybus has that are profitable, but you can't make that inference automatically.
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Tue Dec 18, 2007 4:25 am



Quoting Gsoflyer (Reply 43):
When a Skybus official says for newspapers that GSO-CMH is their most profitable route, that says that GSO-CMH makes a profit. Profit means it makes money whether it is $1 in the black or $100 per person in the black.

...unless, of course, no SX route is making a profit. However, I'm almost certain that's not the case. Even XE no doubt makes money on some routes.
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:19 pm

Quick AVL update:

The Renovations Continue! AVL has updated their website with new information about the renovations and other things:

"Travelers through the Asheville Regional Airport have likely noted the various construction projects in and around the terminal this season.

On the south end of the runway, the Rental Car Ready Facility is being constructed to provide a space for the rental car agencies to care for rental vehicles. This project will also serve to open up additional space for passenger parking.

In the B-Boarding Gate area, crews are enclosing the outdoor walkway and installing Regional Boarding Ramps, which will allow passengers to walk from the terminal to the aircraft without being exposed to the elements.

In addition, a temporary baggage belt has been installed in the bag claim area (pictured above) while the space is remodeled to include two baggage carousels that will enhance safety and security at Asheville Regional.

Finally, passengers may have noticed the temporary wall behind the airline ticket counters. The airline offices are being remodeled to give airlines and the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) a more streamlined workspace, which translates to better customer service and enhanced security.

We appreciate your patience as we work hard to enhance your travel experience at Asheville Regional Airport."


They're almost done with the enclosed boarding walkways and ramps - in case you're not familiar with "boarding ramps", here's a picture of one similar (not quite as nice) to the ones that will be used at AVL:

http://www1.airpics.com/avimg/big/74998.jpg

This will enable passengers to board the plane through the B gates without ever being "outside". Ahhh, the not-so-fond memories of sprinting to ATRs during downpours...  Smile

They've still got a ways to go with the baggage claim renovations - they tore down the old claim and installed a short, temporary one. When complete, there will be two large baggage claim systems. Shot of the temporary system:



The site also released October's pax information. It looks like pax counts are up 4.6% from the month of October last year, despite a 14.6% decrease flights. Total pax count thus far this year is 425,382 pax and 56,723 pax in October.

That's it for the AVL news for now!  Smile
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:27 pm

Awesome. Do u work at AVL? I had a friend who worked for DL. BTW is skywest removing ASA on airplanes and putting skywest on them?
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:00 am



Quoting ERAUgrad02 (Reply 47):
Awesome. Do u work at AVL? I had a friend who worked for DL.

No, unfortunately not, but I live 10 minutes away and I'm there quite often. I'm currently starting my PPL training at WNC Aviation, which is located right next to the terminal at AVL, though, so I'm pretty close to the action.

Your friend worked at AVL? Did he/she like it?
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RE: The North Carolina Thread - Version 4.0

Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:53 am

I guess..lol. He got married and had a baby.
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