|Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 82):|
but I say again we will not dig ourselves out of this hole by sending our jobs overseas and diminishing the ability of the American people to send their children to higher education schools.
Refusing to acknowledge the root problem and putting the blame on other countries cannot help anybody out of the hole either. The reason why some middle class Americans feel marginalized is largely that they failed to realize how fast the world has been transforming in the past 25 years or so, and they did not realize that until its too late. They'd been living a state of euphoria enjoying the America dream without anybody telling them "we've got to get rid of the complacent attitude and work harder, or else." We are talking about a capitalist system that strives for every bit of efficiency there is; feeling you're entitled to an American dream just by by being an American without hard work, and harder work, runs contrary to the very essence of the capitalist system.
I know this may offend many of my American friends on this board, but I have to say this: the US education system (k-12) has a lot to do with the current decline of the American middle class. For a few decades now, American children have been brought up in an education system telling them they are special and they're the best. But claiming you're special and you're the best does not mean you really are. A student really has to deliver the result to prove that he's worthy of the claim. Once they go to college, lots of them simply flunk out either because they do not cherish the opportunity or they are not able to keep up due to their grossly inadequate preparation in high school. Just to cite an example, in th 80's, of all the undergrad students attending UCLA, arguably one of the best public universities in the country, on average 50 per cent of the students did not finish their degree. I did not make this whole thing up; there are yearly surveys conducted on education attainment among high school students in different countries, the US usually ranks among the lowest of developed countries. Also do not forget the effect on the work ethic or the lack thereof of those students when they go out and compete in the real world.
In the US, the number of students majoring engineering, sciences and math have been on a steady decline. As a result, American universities have not been able turn out sufficient quantities of scientists and engineers to cope with the demand for high skilled workers in the new economy. Notice also that the definition of a high skilled worker has been fundamentally changed with the advent of information technology and increased level of global trade. Assembly line workers are no longer considered high skilled. It's those who can perform the innovative and design work that have become the new generation of skilled workers.
If you take a look at the statistics compiled by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, you will immediately realize It's not there are not enough jobs out there. It's just there are not enough American applicants who possess the qualification to grab them. Small wonder high tech firms are seeking to expand overseas given the limited supply of qualified workers domestically.
Therefore, you see what I am getting at here? Because of the mess-up of the K-12 educational system over the past decades, the current situation is that there's a short supply of the newly defined "high skilled" workers and an excess supply of the newly defined "low skilled" workers. Simple Economics will tell us that the resource that's short supply will experience a rise in price and the resource that's oversupplied will experience a price drop. Hence, the US is supposed to experience an increase in wages among the newly defined "high skilled" workers and a drop in wages for the newly defined "low skilled" workers.
Does that ring a bell if you put the increased level of income inequality into perspective? This is no accident; there is no conspiracy to over-exploit the middle class Americans by corporations; it's simply market forces at work!!! Markets determine wages. If you fail to equip yourself with the skills demanded by the new economy, then your insufficient and obsolescent skills will only earn you diminished wages!! Plain and simple.
|Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 83):|
You show me one workable economic theory where people without wages can afford to buy products(believe me we have tried this, welfare, and look what that has got us) and I will say PIGS WILL FLY)
I do not have any magic economic theory that can make the poor afford everything. But I do know this, in the short term if you want to high wages, you must bite the bullet and acquire new skills, retrain yourself, just put your feet on the ground and do something productive. In the long run, the situation can be reversed only if at the macro level a complete overhaul of the US education system is implemented. All in all, the poor and the newly disfranchised middle class need to take a serious initiative and dig themselves out of hole through learning new skills and hard work. But please do not adopt an ostrich way out and unfairly accuse others for your mishap simply because other countries like China and India have really worked awfully hard to improve the quality of their workforce and made them competitive while you're sleeping.
|Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 82):|
Bill Gates and his co-horts are a big part of the problem, they want to send all the jobs overseas and at the same time cry about the shortage of qualified workers, there is a shortage of qualified workers because for years the wages of the middle class have shrunk to a point that the middle class cannot afford to send their children to a prestigious school where the costs are horrific
Again you're not grasping the root cause. How can Bill Gates hire a college graduate to write computer software who can't even solve a 2-variable 2-equation linear system? There is indeed a shortage of skilled workers here in America. To keep America's competitive edge in innovation and high tech, Bill Gates is doing exactly right thing by taking advantage of the global supply of brain power. The foreign talents are doing America a big favor!! If Bill Gates does not do it, fine, companies in other countries will; and pretty soon you will see America losing its competitiveness in the high tech sector as well.
|Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 82):|
say keep them at home and we will then compete on a level playing field where the brain power of our own and your own will determine who comes out on top in this global competition,
And I say you will lose out because other countries, through collaboration and trade, will produce more efficiently and force you out of the game.
OKay, I see I am getting too far away from aviation. I hereby conclude by non-aviation related input in this thread. Hope I have not offended anyone seriously. But that's just my 2 cents.