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Possible Evolutions Of The A380

Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:54 pm

As I've seen mentioned several time on, the obvious evolution for the A380 is the stretch A380-900. I think it should make full use of the 80m square in which airliners are supposed to be contained.

What then? Is a high density version (similar to some 747) for Japan possible (with smaller range?). Ultra long range low density? is an A380-1000 out of the question (I have never seen it discussed)?
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RE: Possible Evolutions Of The A380

Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:04 am

I can see a high density/shorter range version coming, not only for Japan but perhaps also for QF. With the boom in tourism that Australia is currently enjoying, they could certainly use such an aircraft in the future.

Is for an A380-1000, it's probably out of the question at least for a long time. Not fitting within the 80m square would simply make it incompatible with most major international hubs, which are the only destinations it would serve.
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RE: Possible Evolutions Of The A380

Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:43 am

Personally, I do not believe that we will see a special high-density version of the aircraft come to market. In Japan, neither airline is taking steps to renew 747s with VLAs, but instead with smaller aircraft flying more often (at least from what I understand). That is not to say however that we may not see the -800 or -900 in high densities for JAL or ANA. But 800 people is a lot for an hour flight.
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RE: Possible Evolutions Of The A380

Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:51 am

I think an engine change my occur in a decade when more fuel efficient (same thrust) engines come around. Or course, if the wings of the A388 were meant for 389, then they could take the engine loading of the 389 such that more powerful engines could make an LR/ER version.

I don't think they'll stretch even the 389 until at least 5-10 years after it goes into service, then we'll see how the world likes to travel. By then no doubt Boeing's Y3 will be intended to compete with A388/9, maybe, I don't know.
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RE: Possible Evolutions Of The A380

Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:52 am

Quoting A380900 (Thread starter):
Is a high density version (similar to some 747) for Japan possible (with smaller range?)

This has been discussed numerous times.

On very-short flights (like intra-Japan), the A380 starts to become a logistic dog. Even with dual-jetbridges the aircraft would take longer to turn around than it would spend in the air. The 747-400D will require no direct replacement, and will be replaced by A-model 777 and 787-3. Japan's continued trend toward smaller aircraft, and continued investment in high-speed rail service, make a domestic A380 highly unlikely in Japan.

Quoting A380900 (Thread starter):
Ultra long range low density?

That's even less likely. Why ever put the A380 on anything "low density?" The 787 and A350 and their growth variants will fill the ULR low-density niche to the T.
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RE: Possible Evolutions Of The A380

Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:58 am

B743-SR wasn´t a bestseller, I doubt that the A380-SR will make money on routes like Taiwan-Hong Kong and other.
A freighter version is more likely.
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