jawake
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United 747 W/ Olympic Rings

Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:25 pm

First, let me apologize for the photo quality. I got this poster from a family member and I took a digital picture of it on the kitchen table. Certainly not worthy of the airliners.net photo database.

What I am curious about is that I can not find this 747 in the database and the family member who gave it to me has not seen this 747 as well for a very long time.

Clearly it is a UA 747. New colors. I looked up on the US Olympic Site...

http://www.usoc.org/12962.htm

And UA is a sponsor, so I do not think this image was messed with using a photo editor.

I do not know the date of the photo.

Can anyone help me find this aircraft?

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RE: United 747 W/ Olympic Rings

Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:26 pm



Quoting Jawake (Thread starter):
Can anyone help me find this aircraft?

What photo?
 
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RE: United 747 W/ Olympic Rings

Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:30 pm

It might very well be one that has just recently been painted in the new livery and has not yet been snapped in the wild.
 
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RE: United 747 W/ Olympic Rings

Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:32 pm



Quoting United787 (Reply 1):
What photo?

The one in my initial post, am I the only one that sees it?
 
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RE: United 747 W/ Olympic Rings

Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:34 pm



Quoting Jawake (Reply 3):
The one in my initial post, am I the only one that sees it?

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RE: United 747 W/ Olympic Rings

Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:36 pm

I see it. The thumbnail is microscopic. It is indeed a UA 744, in new colors sporting a decal for its support of the Olympics. I was kind of expecting the tail to have the Olympic rings or something like that. Not a decal above/near door 1R.
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RE: United 747 W/ Olympic Rings

Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:38 pm

Does this work? Looks like you have uploaded onto your profile, but it didn't appear in your initial post for whatever reason.

https://www.airliners.net/uf/536941982/phpAL11dH.jpg
 
jawake
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RE: United 747 W/ Olympic Rings

Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:39 pm



Quoting National757 (Reply 6):
Does this work?

Thanks! Sorry guys. for any trouble. This is what I was seeing every time.
 
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RE: United 747 W/ Olympic Rings

Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:44 pm



Quoting National757 (Reply 6):
it didn't appear in your initial post for whatever reason.

It is still there, mind you microscopically (been seeing that a lot on other threads as well). It is centered in the post just under this:

Quoting Jawake (Thread starter):
Can anyone help me find this aircraft?

and above the "(already read)" in the "__ replies, __ compressed (already read), showing __ unread" line above all other posts.
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RE: United 747 W/ Olympic Rings

Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:56 pm

I can see it fine.

Looks a little fake to me, like a mock up. May be wrong though
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RE: United 747 W/ Olympic Rings

Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:06 am

 
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RE: United 747 W/ Olympic Rings

Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:06 am

The aircraft you mention is N199UA. It operated the inaugural IAD-PEK-IAD flights on 28MAR07.

However, later photos of the same aircraft in the database do not have the Olympic rings on the aircraft. It's entirely likely they were applied for the flight and perhaps a short period afterward, so perhaps the photos were taken then. Most likely, you will see them reappear on an aircraft closer to the 2008 Beijing Olympics.
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RE: United 747 W/ Olympic Rings

Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:07 am

[duplicate message, tail number just posted while I was typing the question]

[Edited 2007-12-16 17:10:04]
 
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RE: United 747 W/ Olympic Rings

Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:09 am



Quoting ScrubbsYWG (Reply 10):
more http://wireless.smugmug.com/gallery/...51950



Quoting OH-LGA (Reply 11):
The aircraft you mention is N199UA. It operated the inaugural IAD-PEK-IAD flights on 28MAR07.

You guys are brilliant. Thanks. I think that is highly likely that the rings were decals and they are no longer on. I think you are right, they will reappear closer to the Olympics.

Thanks again!
 
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RE: United 747 W/ Olympic Rings

Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:13 am

http://www.flugzeugbilder.de/show.php?id=609097

Here it is in full earlier this year in April, with the logo. I dont know if the sticker was carried on both sides.
 
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RE: United 747 W/ Olympic Rings

Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:05 am

Cool. I wish they'd do what Delta did and put a decal on more of their planes!
Too bad United chose to terminate service to my entire state of residence earlier this year... Guess I can't fly them to the Olympics, huh? Worldwide service my foot!

That state being Alaska.... which, incidentally, is booked solid for the next two weeks... and yet United just "couldn't get the load factors they needed"... on a dinky Airbus 319. While Continental has overbook 757-300s... doesn't add up to me.

Back on topic, cool pic.
 
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RE: United 747 W/ Olympic Rings

Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:46 am



Quoting NA (Reply 14):
I dont know if the sticker was carried on both sides.

A photo of the left side of N199UA at PEK after the IAD inaugural flight may be found on that other aviation photos site.
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RE: United 747 W/ Olympic Rings

Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:57 pm

Expect to see UA doing a lot more Olympic marketing as IIRC they are a sponsoring corporate sponsor for Chicago's bid for the 2016 Olympics.
 
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RE: United 747 W/ Olympic Rings

Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:50 pm

I thought United's new livery was pretty great-looking before, but the rings really punch it up! But IF they are decals, won't they, umm, peel off? Or do they use really special glue?
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RE: United 747 W/ Olympic Rings

Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:55 pm



Quoting HOOB747 (Reply 18):
Or do they use really special glue?

Absolutely. The "AA" and Scissor Eagle as well as the letering on the fuselage are all decals. The decals save weight and more importantly maintenance and time spent in the paint shop. Small items such as alliance logos and such are universally decals as you can get more detail on a printed sticker than by spraying the aircraft.
Every now and then you will see decals begining to peal on an aircraft. Usually that is due to a botched installation of the aircraft is ready to go into a heavy C or D check for a repaint/decal.

Hope this helps.
 
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RE: United 747 W/ Olympic Rings

Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:04 pm

Yeah, there is a good closeup here on a.net of a CRJ7 in United Express colors (a SkyWest bird) at SFO, and you can very easily make out that the big U on the tail is a decal.


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RE: United 747 W/ Olympic Rings

Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:05 pm

This is rather ridiculous. Why on earth do they apply such tiny rings ? Are they afraid of being taken for Olympic Airways?

Is the great athletic nation of the USA in shock after all the revealed doping abuse (Gatlin, Marion Jones et al.)?

The rings are such a great symbol - they certainly earn more presence. It is quite interesting to look at some of the aircraft that once wore them:


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Lufthansa's 737: advertising Munich 1972 (note the timeless - and suitable - OA tail in the back) and the bid for Berlin 2000 (which failed)


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Military support: the games of 1936 in Berlin. Those were the games of the great Jesse Owens (with whom Hitler refused to shake hands because of his black skin) and the games of the Swiss football national team beating Nazi Germany (my grandfather told me proudly about this).


1992 in Barcelona: Tomcat support for the dream team was close, apparently.



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SR's HB-IOC was appropriatedly decorated, a BU 737 celebrates an anniversary with the rings:


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...well there are many more probably, however, let's pay the glorious 747 some appreciation with looking at some more stunning olympic colors of the past two games...Ansett, RIP, and Atlanta Cargo 747F:


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...well, and I guess a tribute to the real olympic carrier is due, too. Their colours are still one of my all time favourites. I certainly do miss their tail at ZRH (along with their classic Boeings):


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Let's hope for great games in Beijing ...great clean games!


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RE: United 747 W/ Olympic Rings

Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:10 pm



Quoting HBIHLtoEZE (Reply 21):
Let's hope for great games in Beijing ...great clean games!

Yeah, we'll be traveling in the PRC during the games I suspect, and I am NOT looking the slightest bit towards it - for I envision a travel and security nightmare  Wink
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RE: United 747 W/ Olympic Rings

Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:11 pm



Quoting ORDagent (Reply 19):
Quoting HOOB747 (Reply 18):
Or do they use really special glue?

Absolutely. The "AA" and Scissor Eagle as well as the lettering on the fuselage are all decals.

Wow! Thanks for the informative reply. I had no idea those logos were decals. I figured they were applied in the paint shop with a template during livery application. I'll pay closer attention next time I'm at the airport. I didn't figure in the weight factor either. Great reply.
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RE: United 747 W/ Olympic Rings

Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:25 pm

I believe it was in the thread of "Guess The Airport" recently that the issue of some computers using the microscopic thumbnail (and it not working on some of them) came to light. If I recall, certain browsers support the thumbnail while others do not.

Also, I believe that the Olympics Committee owns the rights to the name "Olympics" as well as the five ring emblem. One must be an "official licensed sponsor" of the games, and it is possible that designation wasn't official at the time of UA's inaugural flight. It is also possible that United has other advertising plans for itself and the Olympic games.

As a side note, N199UA was the 747-400 that I flew several years ago LAX-ORD, primarily as a chance to fly a 747 while they were still operated domestically. I had a wonderful flight and after having made friends with the flight attendants, I got a personal tour of the plane AND had a chance to visit the cockpit after landing. I was smiling for weeks!!  biggrin 
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RE: United 747 W/ Olympic Rings

Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:46 pm



Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 15):
Cool. I wish they'd do what Delta did and put a decal on more of their planes!
Too bad United chose to terminate service to my entire state of residence earlier this year... Guess I can't fly them to the Olympics, huh? Worldwide service my foot!

That state being Alaska.... which, incidentally, is booked solid for the next two weeks... and yet United just "couldn't get the load factors they needed"... on a dinky Airbus 319. While Continental has overbook 757-300s... doesn't add up to me.

They'll be back.... but not sure you would want to fly them to Bejing anyway. DEN service starts 2/13 and later this summer they will have flights to SFO and 2x to ORD. Connections to Bejing don't work however.
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RE: United 747 W/ Olympic Rings

Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:39 am

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I totally forgot to get some close up shots of the logo on the tarmac at PEK. I was a bit tired and overwhelmed walking down the stairs.

They rushed to get it on the plane before the IAD-PEK inaugural, so I imagine it wasn't the most permanent option. It was raining the night before, too.

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