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RE: MAN News 43

Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:38 pm

Quoting david_itl (Reply 37):
EK8018 12:30 Dubai Scheduled 12:30
EK018 14:10 Dubai Scheduled 14:10

The two A380s looked good together in glorious weather at MAN. Shame that the EK8018 left around the time EK018 was scheduled to leave, and EK018 left one hour later than scheduled as well...
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RE: MAN News 43

Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:28 am

Where did they park the tech A380 overnight? Presumably one was loaded on a remote stand while the other used stand 12?
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RE: MAN News 43

Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:11 am

Quoting mhodgson (Reply 51):

Parked it on Papa, nose facing T2.
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RE: MAN News 43

Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:25 am

AA reducing MAN-ORD to 5 x weekly for winter
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RE: MAN News 43

Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:18 am

Quoting gkirk (Reply 53):
AA reducing MAN-ORD to 5 x weekly for winter

You lucky people. That means for two days people will be able to use another carrier to USA rather than having to fly AA and their terrible 757's. This goes in the good news column.
 
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RE: MAN News 43

Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:44 pm

Quoting gkirk (Reply 53):
AA reducing MAN-ORD to 5 x weekly for winter

Didn't they do this last winter, and the winter before that?
 
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RE: MAN News 43

Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:20 pm

Quoting col (Reply 54):
You lucky people. That means for two days people will be able to use another carrier to USA rather than having to fly AA and their terrible 757's. This goes in the good news column.

Are AA's 757s really that bad? (rhetorical question - I'll take your word for it!)

Whereas it's good to see them adjusting capacity to accommodate lower winter demand, it's still rather a shame to witness what was once MAN's flagship transatlantic service reduced to a 5 weekly 757. Still, now we have the added bonus of a year round AA/BA JFK schedule. Long may they both be viable!
 
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RE: MAN News 43

Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:35 pm

Quoting mainMAN (Reply 56):
Are AA's 757s really that bad? (rhetorical question - I'll take your word for it!)

I'll second Col on AA. I have flown them twice and i wont again. Their 757's are as bad on the inside as they look on the outside! Very tired, ripped seats and stains etc. Service was pretty terrible too!
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RE: MAN News 43

Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:10 pm

Quoting david_itl (Reply 55):
Didn't they do this last winter, and the winter before that?

6 x weekly IIRC?
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RE: MAN News 43

Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:30 am

Quoting mainMAN (Reply 56):
Are AA's 757s really that bad? (rhetorical question - I'll take your word for it!)

Yes they are bad. Flew them once BOS-MAN, that was enough. Have flown CO and DL 752's to MAN, much better than AA. That is why I do not understand the push for Oneworld to grow at MAN. This love for AA because they were the first Transatlantic carrier just blows me away. I would stick with the DL, US and UA/CO. The 752 is also a noisy SOB. My problem is that I have been 340'd and 380'd, so like the peace and quiet.
 
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RE: MAN News 43

Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:52 am

Quoting danfearn77 (Reply 57):
Their 757's are as bad on the inside as they look on the outside! Very tired, ripped seats and stains etc. Service was pretty terrible too!

I thought all of the International B757's had been refurbished?
 
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RE: MAN News 43

Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:14 am

Quoting col (Reply 59):
This love for AA because they were the first Transatlantic carrier just blows me away.

In the mid 80's when AA started services they were the only US airline to show faith in MAN, at the time their only other UK route was DFW-LGW and if I remember correctly they took a chance and operated the MAN-ORD route on a temporary licence for 2 years. I first flew with the route in a 767-200 in April 87. Before they arrived I used to get pissed off by having to fly the shuttle to LHR and hang around terminal 3(sometimes 4) for 2 or more hours before having to fly to JFK or ORD.

I flew with them on average 4 MAN-ORD-MAN returns per year before my company transferred production to Asia in 1996.

I remember in 1992/3 the route was twice daily with an MD11 on the AA54/55 rotation and a 767 on the later flight. Its a shame that the service has deteriorated to a 757
 
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RE: MAN News 43

Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:54 am

Is CO(/UA) going down to just 1 daily this winter? I can only find CO20/21 bookable for just about any date I try, with CO100/101 having seemingly disappeared until May.



Quoting col (Reply 59):
This love for AA because they were the first Transatlantic carrier just blows me away

I guess I vaguely have a soft spot for the MAN-ORD flight since it was my first ever flight (MAN-ORD-ORF-BNA-ORD-MAN in March 1992), but given that I was 9 months old it's a pretty tenuous connection. To be honest I'm really not looking forward to flying them domestically in the USA in January, but I guess that's the cost of my loyalty to QF/OW.
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RE: MAN News 43

Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:59 pm

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 62):
Is CO(/UA) going down to just 1 daily this winter? I can only find CO20/21 bookable for just about any date I try, with CO100/101 having seemingly disappeared until May.

Down to daily from September but goes to 10 weekly or so in March then full double daily for the summer period.


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Etihad is appearing to want a hangar as they are targetting some airlines to offer maintenance work using similar equipment to themselves.
 
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RE: MAN News 43

Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:36 pm

Quoting col (Reply 59):
This love for AA because they were the first Transatlantic carrier just blows me away.

It's not really an AA love-in, ORD as a destination and transfer point has tailed off over the years. To a certain extent, the availability of direct flights between the North and Chicago as the 2nd or 3rd US city is an important factor.
 
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RE: MAN News 43

Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:08 pm

Quoting david_itl (Reply 63):
Etihad is appearing to want a hangar as they are targetting some airlines to offer maintenance work using similar equipment to themselves.

I saw that; seems to apply mainly to minor maintenance and scheduled checks which can be done on stand during the turnaround, allowing a little more efficiency than insisting the aircraft is in AUH for the work to be done.

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RE: MAN News 43

Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:36 am

Quoting mainMAN (Reply 64):
It's not really an AA love-in, ORD as a destination and transfer point has tailed off over the years. To a certain extent, the availability of direct flights between the North and Chicago as the 2nd or 3rd US city is an important factor.

I agree with the link to ORD, but it would be better served with CO/UA. Back in the day I used BMI on the route, because it offered better service. Sadly, they had their head up their a$$, and now we see what they have become. If MAN has to put up with the 757's at least have some quality about them. DL and CO/UA have at least brought theirs into the 21st Century.

Quoting david_itl (Reply 63):
Etihad is appearing to want a hangar as they are targetting some airlines to offer maintenance work using similar equipment to themselves.

Nice to see they have taken that POS 77W off the route. The 330 is much better, and half as quiet. Found out the life stories of half the population of Wigan on last months flight!
 
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RE: MAN News 43

Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:39 pm

Quoting david_itl (Reply 63):
Etihad is appearing to want a hangar as they are targetting some airlines to offer maintenance work using similar equipment to themselves.

I noticed that they have an office now with Etihad Engineering underneath stands 9 and 11 on B-Pier with a couple of bits of shiny new equipment (vans and trailers for transporting tyres) and they seem to be adding new things daily.
 
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RE: MAN News 43

Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:52 pm

Quoting david_itl (Reply 63):
Etihad is appearing to want a hangar as they are targetting some airlines to offer maintenance work using similar equipment to themselves.

Not really wanting a hangar... They are offering line maintenance services. There are a few other engineering companies offering similiar who don't have a hangar.

Quoting DC3fan (Reply 67):
I noticed that they have an office now with Etihad Engineering underneath stands 9 and 11 on B-Pier with a couple of bits of shiny new equipment (vans and trailers for transporting tyres) and they seem to be adding new things daily.

I've not been round the 9 and 11 side for a bit, bit I noticed the big Etihad Airways Technical sign underneath stand 10, not sure when they will be fully up and running as BA are still doing the line maintenance for now.

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RE: MAN News 43

Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:56 pm

Why is today's EK18 late going out?

It arrived bang on time, Emirates website says ETD 19:00 but MAN website states "Next information 20:30"

[Edited 2011-08-04 10:58:25]
 
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RE: MAN News 43

Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:06 pm

Malmo Air due tomorrow:
TF953 16:30 Split Scheduled 16:30

also triple VS to MCO
VS075 11:00 Orlando Scheduled 11:00
VS175 12:00 Orlando Scheduled 12:00
VS073 13:45 Orlando Scheduled 13:45
 
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RE: MAN News 43

Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:24 pm

Quoting boysteve (Reply 69):
Why is today's EK18 late going out?

It arrived bang on time, Emirates website says ETD 19:00 but MAN website states "Next information 20:30"



Now been cancelled, well it was decided around 20.30 that it was night-stopping. Major Technical and Electrical fault. Pax were left on-board from 1500 until 2000, some very unhappy faces on it!

Quoting david_itl (Reply 70):
also triple VS to MCO
VS075 11:00 Orlando Scheduled 11:00
VS175 12:00 Orlando Scheduled 12:00
VS073 13:45 Orlando Scheduled 13:45



Today's VS075 was cancelled due to an ETOPS problem, so the aircraft G-VKSS ferried down to LGW for maintenance over night and will position back up in the morning.
The LGW A330 G-VSXY will take the MAN VS076 pax back, and a 744 will position to MCO to take the LGW pax back, bit complicated but its easier for a 744 to operate back to LGW rather than operate into MAN and position back to LGW.

Should be G-VSXY on VS075, G-VKSS on VS175, G-VGAL on VS073.

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RE: MAN News 43

Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:14 pm

Quoting Jetset7E7 (Reply 71):

any idea of the nature of the Etops issue with VS075

thanks
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RE: MAN News 43

Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:49 pm

Hi. I was at the airport today, and a couple of people working there seem to think Air Nostrum is starting a MAD flight from next month. It's the first I've heard of it, does anyone know anything about this? Thanks
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RE: MAN News 43

Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:52 pm

Quoting jamies80085 (Reply 72):
any idea of the nature of the Etops issue with VS075

thanks

No sorry I didn't ask

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RE: MAN News 43

Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:58 pm

And another carrier onto MAN-MAD from the winter timetable:

IB8502/8503 now available arrives 1705, departs 1735.


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RE: MAN News 43

Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:12 pm

Quoting david_itl (Reply 75):
IB8502/8503 now available arrives 1705, departs 1735.

Surely that's too much MAD too soon!!

I get an email today from U2 to say my SXF-MAN on the 7th Dec has been cancelled. It appears they've scrapped all Wednesday flights, with the exception of the peak Christmas/New Year period until the 28th March. For most of the winter, SXF now operates 4 times a week, on Mon, Thu, Fri and Sun. Disappointing bookings on the Wednesday flight?
 
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RE: MAN News 43

Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:17 pm

Must be. Just looked at the prices for the 1st 3 weeks of November routing MAN-SXF - they are £30.99 (available on 7 days) , £33.99 (2 days), £34.99 (1 day) , £44.99 (1 day) & £45.99 (1 day). Hopefully they'll be a surge in late bookings!
 
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RE: MAN News 43

Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:31 pm

There's still LPL-SXF operating 8 times a week (bizarrely twice on Tuesday as far as I know) This is going to be intriguing to watch over the next year or so, theoretically MAN-SXF should become busier, for simple reasons of demographics and population. I'm wondering if LH might have a go at MAN -BBI in the not-too-distant future.

(Edit......BBI meaning Brandenburg and not somewhere in India!)

[Edited 2011-08-11 16:34:44]
 
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RE: MAN News 43

Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:32 pm

Quoting david_itl (Reply 75):
Add another carrier onto MAN-MAD from the winter timetable:

IB8502/8503 now available arrives 1705, departs 1735.

Has been rumoured after the announcement of the GLA flights. Will be operated by Air Nostrum with the CRJ1000.

IB8502 MAD15:45-17:05MAN CRK 2h20m
IB8503 MAN17:35-20:55MAD CRK 2h20m

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RE: MAN News 43

Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:11 am

Quoting B742 (Reply 79):
IB8502 MAD15:45-17:05MAN CRK 2h20m
IB8503 MAN17:35-20:55MAD CRK 2h20m

Does this offer any connections?
 
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RE: MAN News 43

Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:52 am

Quoting col (Reply 80):
IB8502 MAD15:45-17:05MAN CRK 2h20m
IB8503 MAN17:35-20:55MAD CRK 2h20m
Does this offer any connections?

Awful flight times. Why don't they do a morning and an evening flight to allow for better connections and 1 day business?
 
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RE: MAN News 43

Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:59 am

Quoting col (Reply 80):
Does this offer any connections?

Yes, plenty. I just did an IB search for GIG and EZE, and apart from many routings being via LHR, it fits well with MAD departures and arrivals. For example there's an EZE departure from MAD at about 01:05, and an arrival at 14.30.
 
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RE: MAN News 43

Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:10 am

Quoting 8herveg (Reply 81):
Awful flight times. Why don't they do a morning and an evening flight to allow for better connections and 1 day business?

It's not aimed at the business market, BA and IB's primary aim and purpose is to feed their long haul ops out of LHR and MAD. We may even see long haul BA services in future from MAD.
 
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RE: MAN News 43

Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:57 pm

Who would go to MAD for a business day? Very few I suspect.
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RE: MAN News 43

Fri Aug 12, 2011 5:31 pm

The same people who go to Paris, Rome, Lisbon, Frankfurt, Dusseldorf, Amsterdam, Dublin, Copenhagen, Munich, Brussels....what a ridiculous statement.
 
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RE: MAN News 43

Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:52 pm

Quoting LisbonBearUK (Reply 85):
what a ridiculous statement.

No it isn't. Madrid is probably quite marginal, unlike closer cities with a similar economic base to the North West.........Randstad/Amsterdam, Brussels (EU traffic), Paris, Hamburg, Frankfurt, and Dusseldorf......Antwerp, Copenhagen and Zurich to a lesser extent. If there was much day return demand for MAN - Spain, then BCN wouldn't have stayed a single daily 0800 departure, as it has for years.

Quoting LisbonBearUK (Reply 85):
Rome, Lisbon,

No chance! You've never been able to do a business day trip to either. There isn't the demand to justify it.

[Edited 2011-08-12 14:56:48]
 
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RE: MAN News 43

Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:54 pm

It make no sense with business day trip with over 2 hours flying time for each leg. With all you need to go through at the airports, transport at both ends and if you add to that the one hours later start of the day due to different time zones, you'll only end up with an hours maximum two for a meeting. These days there are other means for such a short meeting, like a video conference - and it's a hell of a lot better way to be productive.
 
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RE: MAN News 43

Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:07 pm

Quoting LN-KGL (Reply 87):
It make no sense with business day trip with over 2 hours flying time for each leg. With all you need to go through at the airports, transport at both ends and if you add to that the one hours later start of the day due to different time zones, you'll only end up with an hours maximum two for a meeting. These days there are other means for such a short meeting, like a video conference - and it's a hell of a lot better way to be productive.

Quite correct.

Madrid (Plus 1 hour time Differences) just does't work for a day trip. Its all ways two to three days away if you want to get anything done especially when you add Spanish work hours and cultural etiquette to the equation.

You customer/client will want to do some wining and dining and that will mean your still in Madrid town centre at 2am as a matter of course.
 
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RE: MAN News 43

Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:23 pm

I guess I don't need to add anymore to my statement other than even day trips in 'some' closer Cities aren't as widespread as you would first think. And remember also that business trips are not always your typical businessman and can range from junior management through to shop floor workers and as a consequence, short trips are not always deemed economical, particularly in the current climate.
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RE: MAN News 43

Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:04 pm

MAD is going to be principally for connections to IB flights, the flights are timed for the evening departures to South America
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RE: MAN News 43

Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:01 pm

Monarch ZB will shortly be announcing their MAN-MAD schedule, in line with their agreement with their new Spanish air partner. ZB will be offering 2 flights a day, one around 0730 and 1700 - the latter showing as a nightstop in MAD.

Those day tripping businessmen will be spoilt for choice.
 
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RE: MAN News 43

Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:27 am

As someone who has done frequent daytrips on business to European cities over the years, I can say that whereas I've been able to do the likes of Brussels, Paris, Amsterdam, Frankfurt and Geneva in a day, back when i used to have to go to Madrid regularly, it simply wasn't practical in a day. It always required flying down the night before. And my local airport is LHR. So if MAD isn't a sensible day trip out of LHR with all of BA and IB's flights, how was it ever going to work on a one daily out of MAN.

This isn't for business traffic, its for connecting traffic - hence the arrival to coinicide with the late night departure wave to Latin America.
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RE: MAN News 43

Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:41 pm

But by the time this flight arrives, there are not that many connections available: Buenos Aires and Sao Paulo and on some days Rio de Janeiro? Interesting how they have opted for a small CRJ, whereas TAP have already exceeded expectations on their MAN-LIS route with an A319 and on some days an A320...
 
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RE: MAN News 43

Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:56 pm

Quoting LisbonBearUK (Reply 93):
But by the time this flight arrives, there are not that many connections available: Buenos Aires and Sao Paulo and on some days Rio de Janeiro?

Buenos Aires, Lima, Mexico City, Montevideo, Rio, Santiago and Sao Paulo are all connections that can be made - most daily. Also their Johannesburg service. I'd say that's not a bad range of connections, given the size of aircraft.

Quoting LisbonBearUK (Reply 93):
whereas TAP have already exceeded expectations on their MAN-LIS route with an A319 and on some days an A320...

What were the expectations? How much have they exceeded them? And will that continue to be the case once the summer peak is over. I'm not saying that they haven't - I'm just curious to what information you have on loads etc?
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RE: MAN News 43

Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:14 pm

Bear in mind that TAP (I don't think) doesn't have anything smaller than a A319 and if they did, maybe they would have used it at MAN. I don't know. What I do know however is that just because an A320 appears sometimes it isn't always an indication of loads. Sometimes it's because that is the best fit within the wider network on that particular day.
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RE: MAN News 43

Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:11 pm

Looks like DXB just overtook LHR as the favorite destination out of MAN. LHR is down again, even though I did try to help out on one leg. The way it looks AMS could overtake LHR soon also. I guess people are talking with their feet. Surely CX have got to be looking at what the LHR connection is doing to them. Would still prefer a Star or Skyteam direct to China please.

One quick question, how many more people can US cram on the 333. I know it was always full when I used it several years ago, but it seems to have found even more seats. ORD down again, poor AA. JFK down also, although last year I did end up on a 763 with DL a couple of times, believe it was July.

Etihad was down, was this the month of the 2 x 332, replacing the 77W. The 332 is much nicer to fly on.
 
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RE: MAN News 43

Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:44 pm

Quoting GT4EZY (Reply 95):
Bear in mind that TAP (I don't think) doesn't have anything smaller than a A319 and if they did, maybe they would have used it at MAN. I don't know. What I do know however is that just because an A320 appears sometimes it isn't always an indication of loads. Sometimes it's because that is the best fit within the wider network on that particular day.


If Tap need something smaller and they may in the winter they will deploy an aircraft with PGA on the tail either an emb or F100 and these are no strangers to Manchester
 
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RE: MAN News 43

Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:26 pm

Quoting rutankrd (Reply 97):
If Tap need something smaller and they may in the winter they will deploy an aircraft with PGA on the tail either an emb or F100 and these are no strangers to Manchester

Exactly, I was going to say this. They own PGA outright aswell
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RE: MAN News 43

Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:29 pm

Quoting rutankrd (Reply 97):
If Tap need something smaller and they may in the winter they will deploy an aircraft with PGA on the tail either an emb or F100 and these are no strangers to Manchester

Yes i remember.
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