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Transaero To Receive Last SQ-744s, Plus 773s.

Tue Aug 30, 2011 6:28 pm

Transaero is busily adding to what already now is the most impressive fleet of any Russian carrier. They are adding at least half a dozen ex-JAL and ex-SQ 744s this year, which were aquired last year.

Recently they have aquired the last 744s still active with Singapore Airlines, which will join the fleet next year. With this sale all former SQ-744s have found new operators. It allows the airline to retire its remaining 30-year-old 742s. Transaero also has leased (or bought?) the rumoured four 773s, which will be retired by SQ in the coming weeks and which likely will be flown domestically a lot. All the planes now aquired are 10 - 12 years old, old enough to leave by SQs standard, but very young fo Transaero.

Interesting: all those planes will carry Irish registrations.

Source: skyliner-magazine
 
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RE: Transaero To Receive Last SQ-744s, Plus 773s.

Tue Aug 30, 2011 6:36 pm

Quoting na (Thread starter):
Interesting: all those planes will carry Irish registrations.

A 773 on the Irish register, great to hear. Shame we'll never see them here though.
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RE: Transaero To Receive Last SQ-744s, Plus 773s.

Tue Aug 30, 2011 6:56 pm

Just saw this on ru_aviation: http://ru-aviation.livejournal.com/2013223.html

Could this be true? An alleged hole under the seat of a UN 744! Please tell me this posting is a total fake! Otherwise it is scary as hell!

[Edited 2011-08-30 12:08:37]
 
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RE: Transaero To Receive Last SQ-744s, Plus 773s.

Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:14 pm

Quoting na (Thread starter):
Interesting: all those planes will carry Irish registrations.

Doesn't that have something to do with import tariffs imposed on aircraft built outside the EU? AZ has quite a few aircraft with Irish registrations as well.
 
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RE: Transaero To Receive Last SQ-744s, Plus 773s.

Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:19 pm

Quoting panam330 (Reply 3):
Doesn't that have something to do with import tariffs imposed on aircraft built outside the EU? AZ has quite a few aircraft with Irish registrations as well.

More than likely it's a Russia-specific law on duties placed on aircraft built outside of Russia. Russia is not a member of the EU.
 
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RE: Transaero To Receive Last SQ-744s, Plus 773s.

Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:28 pm

Quoting luckyone (Reply 4):

Doesn't that have something to do with import tariffs imposed on aircraft built outside the EU? AZ has quite a few aircraft with Irish registrations as well.

Not an EU thing. Just policies of Italy and Russia (I think AZ is less about import duty and more about a leaseback deal.)
 
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RE: Transaero To Receive Last SQ-744s, Plus 773s.

Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:13 am

For those who don't know, They have been sending 747 to YYZ lately and it is really nice to see a few of those birds here. KL, BA, LH AF are the other airlines the bring that bird here. Not counting Cargo.
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RE: Transaero To Receive Last SQ-744s, Plus 773s.

Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:01 am

Quoting MOW (Reply 2):
Just saw this on ru_aviation: http://ru-aviation.livejournal.com/2013223.html

Could this be true? An alleged hole under the seat of a UN 744! Please tell me this posting is a total fake! Otherwise it is scary as hell!

Bloggers are a poor source of information.
He didn't say if it was 742/743/744 - and didn't actually tell what route it was.
In my view - it's a kind of fake.
We see a lower panel off the wall - which may happen.
And then pics of inner areas which could possibly be pictured during C-check.
Garbage is obviously fake.
The area itself looks old - but what can we expect from a 30 year old aircraft?

The common opinion here on Russian forums - it is the result of on-going fierce competition between UN and SU + other charter carriers. S7 would love to steal a part of UN charter business.

I don't fly UN. But I respect this airline for consistency of their business plan and its application.
And their aircraft tech-service is outstanding. Their in-flight service is just OK.
But safety is great.
I am on EK 231/232. The rest is just jet lag.
 
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RE: Transaero To Receive Last SQ-744s, Plus 773s.

Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:37 am

Quoting MOW (Reply 2):

Fake or not what I find disturbing is the corrosion...

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RE: Transaero To Receive Last SQ-744s, Plus 773s.

Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:45 pm

Quoting EK413 (Reply 8):
Fake or not what I find disturbing is the corrosion...

That's not really corrosion, maybe some light surface corrosion on some of the Hi-Lok collars, but that is normal. What you are seeing is Dinitrol that protects the structure, and accumulation of dirt. If you remove lower sidewall panels (Dado panels) on any aircraft more than a year or two old, this is what you will see in the area between the crease beam and the frames/stringers/skin. All that has happened here is that someone has not secured the Dado panel correctly and people are using the area as a waste compartment.
 
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RE: Transaero To Receive Last SQ-744s, Plus 773s.

Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:23 pm

Quoting na (Thread starter):
Interesting: all those planes will carry Irish registrations.

Another interesting fact is that UN now operates B744s (not to mention the classic B747s) powered by RR, GE, and PW!
 
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RE: Transaero To Receive Last SQ-744s, Plus 773s.

Wed Aug 31, 2011 3:45 pm

Hm...So you are saying, LTU 330, that the blogger could actually access this area and picture it?
Interesting.
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RE: Transaero To Receive Last SQ-744s, Plus 773s.

Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:21 am

When Transaero acquired the 744 and 777's from SQ, what interiors did they get. I can't imagine SQ giving another airline it's hard product? Does Trasaero have their own uniform and branded interiors?

It's now very overdue for a world class identity: not the Frankenstein of Delta and Air France!
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RE: Transaero To Receive Last SQ-744s, Plus 773s.

Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:59 am

Quoting VC10er (Reply 12):
So far SQ have given out their J and Y product to others when aircraft have been sold or leased out, but not F, I feel the current long haul J will also not be available when its time to sell aircraft fitted with those, simple reason being the current and former F plus the current J are all created specifically for SQ I think they are patented.

[Edited 2011-08-31 19:22:36]
 
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RE: Transaero To Receive Last SQ-744s, Plus 773s.

Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:17 am

Quoting pylon101 (Reply 11):
Hm...So you are saying, LTU 330, that the blogger could actually access this area and picture it?

If a Dado panel is removed as it is in this case then you can see this area quite clearly. In one of his first pictures you can see that the Dado panel is loose. There is a gap at the top. All he has done is remove it completely to get those pictures. I can't remember how they are atached on a -400 (it's nearly 20 years since I did my type course on them and ten since I worked on them) but normally just two quick release fasteners hold each panel on. It's fairly common to see a few loose Dado panels as in some positions they are a pig to secure due to the seat positioning. Normally they are all removed on a C-Check to check behind for cleanliness etc, but at that time the seats could be fully removed (not always). Other requirements for access outside of C-Checks is to get to Emergency Lighting batteries and there chargers.

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